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Offline bistromath

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VDO oil pressure sender
« on: August 24, 2009, 03:27:10 PM »
Has anyone mounted a VDO oil pressure sender to their bike in place of the stock switch? Specifically in the 550? I don't remember if the oil pump/pressure switch location is similar on the 750. On the 550 it looks close, too close to tell from the photos if it will actually fit or not, and it'd be nice to have confirmation before I shell out 25 clams for one. Going to make an integrated oil pressure/temp gauge, built into the stock tachometer.
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Re: VDO oil pressure sender
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 12:11:32 AM »
Has anyone mounted a VDO oil pressure sender to their bike in place of the stock switch? Specifically in the 550? I don't remember if the oil pump/pressure switch location is similar on the 750. On the 550 it looks close, too close to tell from the photos if it will actually fit or not, and it'd be nice to have confirmation before I shell out 25 clams for one. Going to make an integrated oil pressure/temp gauge, built into the stock tachometer.

Dang - you will beat me to it, if you do! Having put them on a couple of VWs, I was thinking that that would work great, too, since the stock Honda warning light sensor looks just like the stock VW / VDO warning light sensor and I believe (almost positive) has the same metric pipe thread. The dual sending unit (pressure gauge + warning light) is a lot bigger though - doubt you will be able to clear the cover with in inside, at the stock Honda position.

I was thinking of running an extension up several inches and drilling a hole in the cover for it to stick through, so that the sending unit would be just outside the cover.



As far as the gauges go, I like the VDO 'Marine" line with the chrome bezel - they make different ranges of oil pressure too, like this 150PSI version (I don't recall off hand what max psi would be on the Honda, but I'm thinking the 150 would cover it fine?). I think the marine line might be more water resistant, too - nice on the cycle.



I also re-tapped a brass temperature sending unit and made it the actual drain plug, for my VW van, to use along with another oil temp gauge. Even though I am sure the temp would be a bit cooler down that low in the oil, it worked great.
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Re: VDO oil pressure sender
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 04:58:01 AM »
If its much taller than the original it wont fit as there is not much casing clearance.

What you could do is hard line it to a convenient external point if you really want it
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Re: VDO oil pressure sender
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 07:43:54 AM »
Yep, was afraid of that.

Moto-Bunny, that's exactly the VDO unit I was looking for, with the warning switch built into it so I don't lose the idiot light. I'd really like it to look as stock as possible, and running hard lines around is both ugly and dangerous (more stuff to get caught and spew oil around). I wonder if it would fit with a 90 degree elbow....

Best I can tell the oil pressure switch is threaded 1/8 BSPT while the VDOs are almost all 1/8 NPT, but seems they'll both thread in OK (28TPI vs. 27). Also looks like the oil warning light will be even MORE useless with this sensor, since it triggers at 7PSI vs. the stock switch at around 20. But if I've got a gauge, I don't much mind.

If you get more than 80PSI in your Honda you've got some serious oil pumping going on.
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Re: VDO oil pressure sender
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 09:14:04 AM »
Also, moto-bunny: be sure you match your gauge with your sensor if you go that route, because the 80psi gauge will only read correctly with the 80psi sensor, etc.
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Re: VDO oil pressure sender
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 02:47:42 PM »
If its much taller than the original it wont fit as there is not much casing clearance.

What you could do is hard line it to a convenient external point if you really want it

That's what SHE said!   lol

"I was thinking of running an extension up several inches and drilling a hole in the cover for it to stick through, so that the sending unit would be just outside the cover."

I was thinking just a length of brass pipe with the pipe thread on each end, then a male to female adapter on top where the sending unit can go into. I have seen them at the hardware store.
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Re: VDO oil pressure sender
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 02:55:56 PM »
Yep, was afraid of that.

Moto-Bunny, that's exactly the VDO unit I was looking for, with the warning switch built into it so I don't lose the idiot light. I'd really like it to look as stock as possible, and running hard lines around is both ugly and dangerous (more stuff to get caught and spew oil around). I wonder if it would fit with a 90 degree elbow....

Best I can tell the oil pressure switch is threaded 1/8 BSPT while the VDOs are almost all 1/8 NPT, but seems they'll both thread in OK (28TPI vs. 27). Also looks like the oil warning light will be even MORE useless with this sensor, since it triggers at 7PSI vs. the stock switch at around 20. But if I've got a gauge, I don't much mind.

If you get more than 80PSI in your Honda you've got some serious oil pumping going on.

* Yeah, I really don't think you will get it to fit inside the cover still, though - the dual sender is roughly 50-60mm long by 40mm around or so (from memory, years ago).

* I remembered the metric pipe thread is very slightly different than the 1/8NPT, but they are so similar, I bet if you ran the appropriate die over the NPT it would 'convert' it to the metric.

* I knew you have to match the sending unit to the gauge - you are sure these bikes never go over 80, though? (the VWs used the 80psi units) I wasn't sure of the Honda max, especially with downshifting, thicker / cold oil, high revs.

* Good to know about the difference with the warning light. . .yeah, the 7psi trigger wouldn't help a whole lot. . .lol.. .  more like "oh, your engine is seizing now, here is a pretty red light for you"
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1989 VW Jetta GLi 16V
1991 Diamondback Mtn. Bike