Author Topic: Henry Abe (Read 15255 times)

andy750 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 28, 2009, 07:25:49 AM »

The latter Dennis. I wasnt thinking about registering it here...just need the engine and wheels and a few other parts....but I need to look into whats required to get me over the border....may be harder than I think...

cheers
Andy

754 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 28, 2009, 08:26:33 AM »

It should not be a problem with bike that age.
Dont know if you can ride it across as your insurance will probably not be for THAT bike.
You will have to pay any applicable taxes or duties.

If you however just put a plate on & ride it back without declaring the purchase..
ALL MANNER OF HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE when you try to register it..onless you part it out..& toss the frame.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #27 on:** August 28, 2009, 09:58:57 AM »

Andy,

I've had 2 different experiences when returning. Both at different crossings. The first was in ND and a slow crossing. It seriously got to the point where I was expecting the glove and the KY Jelly and they let the Canadian cruise right on through. Cross interrogated by 2 different guys. I thought I was being a good boy too! The second was in WA at a busier crossing. Nice guy. Asked a few questions. Told him I had a few beers in that now famous cooler of mine and asked if I needed to pour them out. He told me if it were him he would pull over and pour it out down the old hatch

. "Welcome home boys" were his final words. No hassles at this one. I do not remember having to show proof of ownership or insurance.

Too bad you can't easily verify whats in the engine. You can always pull a plug and look for non stock piston crowns and remove the carbs to see what the "porting" looks like. It's just waaaay to easy to say you have goodies in an engine.

srook · « **Reply #28 on:** August 28, 2009, 11:25:36 AM »

I live in Western New York about 20 minutes from the Canadian Border. Do not try to BS your way across the border with a vehicle that is not registered and insured correctly. At the border crossing when you pull up to the window there is a camera that takes your license plate picture and displays your info to the customs official. If you take up another plate from a registered bike you will still have problems because there will be no record of that plate/vehicle entering Canada. That is an immediate red flag and these guys have no sense of humor. You could actually be charged with a crime by tryingto defraud a customs official. Your best bet is to rent a trailer at U-haul and trailer it back. You will have to declare it at the border but you are allowed to bring back either $300 or $500 worth of stuff without paying any duty or fees. Contact the seller and ask if he would be willing to write a 2nd reciept for $300 and you will have no problems. Another thing to consider, you are now required to have a passport or enhanced drivers license to enter Canada from NY. I'm not sure how it is in other states, but the days of just going up to Toronto or Niagara on a whim are gone.
Scott

andy750 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 28, 2009, 12:05:28 PM »

Thanks guys great advice and it looks like it wont be so simple. I may need to pass on this one.

cheers
Andy

SKTP · « **Reply #30 on:** August 28, 2009, 09:09:47 PM »

Quote from: ekpent on August 27, 2009, 07:04:21 PM

Quick it is going fast http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220469501456&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Why would this not fit a 78K?

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #31 on:** August 28, 2009, 10:28:34 PM »

It will work with ANY 750 K engine.

Without going into details that have already been gone over a million times here, what it isn't designed for is a 77/78 F engine due to the differences in top end.

bwaller · « **Reply #32 on:** August 29, 2009, 04:25:24 AM »

I delivered a CB550 to a guy in Boston several years ago and before hand stopped by US Customs to ask what was needed for me to get it across. At that time they simply wanted a letter from American Honda stating the model was one that had originally been sold in the US. This letter was a bit of a nuisance to acquire! For some reason Am. Honda didn't give this "high priority"

I'm in Indy for the GP and will stop at both US & Can Customs on the way back & ask the question again for an update on what it takes to get bikes across.

JohnG · « **Reply #33 on:** August 29, 2009, 07:03:20 AM »

Can you guys tell me which came first: Henry Abe wheels or Shelby Dowd?
I think SD's came around 1977.

Wasn't there a drum brake version of the rear SD?? They had the disk version for the CB750F market (bolt on) but I thought for a bit more money you could transplant the drum from your K. The disk version with front wheel was a mere $178 or so in 1978.

They certainly look similar with the HA having some reinforcement the SDs dont appear to have near the rim.

John

fishhead · « **Reply #34 on:** August 29, 2009, 07:29:53 AM »

1975
Hery Abe later went on to become Daytona

http://daytona-global.com/company/history_of_daytona.html

All the SD I have seen and owned were rear disc conversions. I've probably had 10 sets over the years(CB 750).
1st set. Grimeca caliper
2nd set. Hurst caliper

Other than the disc and caliper, they were identical.

fishhead · « **Reply #35 on:** August 29, 2009, 07:39:00 AM »

A Shelby Ad.
It states that the wheels(on the bottom) use the stock items. The pic shows a Kawaski Z-1 900 (73-75) and they came with a drum rear brake and is shown with a disc conversion.

The ad also states (on the top) "and utilizes a rear disc brake"

JohnG · « **Reply #36 on:** August 29, 2009, 07:41:59 AM »

So the Honda versions seem to have been aimed at the F bikes leaving the K people to add on their own disk and caliper and so on. I bought them for an F and all the factory stuff transferred right over - did not have to scrounge anything.

If the Abe wheels came in '75 I think that would pre-date the SDs... When was your SD ad printed??

fishhead · « **Reply #37 on:** August 29, 2009, 08:09:38 AM »

I dont know whan the ad was printed. It was swiped off the internet somewhere (probably an Ebay auction).

All the SD"s I have had were for the 750K models. I have never seen a rear SD wheel that would use the stock rear (F) disc braking system. The rear disc mounting bolt measurements on the K rear wheels (diameter, bolt pattern,etc) were identical to the K's front disc (6 bolt), but used an aftermarket disc and caliper. The Hurst disc was mounted directly to the wheel and the Grimeca disc had an adaptor of sorts to get it mounted to the wheel.

BLUE71TURBO · « **Reply #38 on:** August 29, 2009, 10:14:48 AM »

Hey FISHHEAD, what different rear disk brake applications will work on the shelby dowd rims ? I have the HURST AIRHEART setup now. Id like to install a larger disc and caliper.

myhondas · « **Reply #39 on:** August 29, 2009, 11:33:54 AM »

I always thought the SD's were a better looking wheel than the henry abes. they were just weak on the rear brake portion. I have the hurst airhart rear disc system also. Thinking of selling the SD's though.

MoTo-BunnY · « **Reply #40 on:** August 29, 2009, 01:48:44 PM »

Here are a set of Henry Abe tappet covers that were on the feeBay last year - they went for a ton of money, too, like $150 or something.

fishhead · « **Reply #41 on:** August 30, 2009, 07:34:37 AM »

Quote from: BLUE71TURBO on August 29, 2009, 10:14:48 AM

Hey FISHHEAD, what different rear disk brake applications will work on the shelby dowd rims ? I have the HURST AIRHEART setup now. Id like to install a larger disc and caliper.

I dont know what other discs could be used other than a K front. I'm sure other applicaion discs could be used with some machining.

Going to a larger rear discs (diameter) can give too much leverage and make the rear prone to lock up. With more leverage on the rear brakes and the weight transfer (off the rear wheel and to the front wheel) when braking making it more prone to locking up than braking.

Suzuki had this problem with the GS 750 (1977, I think) and the larger rear disc was replaced on the next model with a smaller diameter disc (the rest of the braking system remained the same) to stop the rear from locking up.

JohnG · « **Reply #42 on:** August 30, 2009, 12:28:08 PM »

On the stock F rear disk (which fits the SD "F" rear wheel) I believe the disk itself is the same as the K and F front disk, while the hub it mounts on is quite different.

In the rain, the stock F disk/pad setup was a failure and Honda eventually recalled the pads and gave everyone new ones with grooves. I got mine drilled which helped some but there was always this delay between stepping on it and gettting some resistance. I hope you guys with the aftermarket stuff make out better.

bucky katt · « **Reply #43 on:** August 30, 2009, 12:58:01 PM »

Quote from: MoTo-BunnY on August 29, 2009, 01:48:44 PM

Here are a set of Henry Abe tappet covers that were on the feeBay last year - they went for a ton of money, too, like $150 or something.

those are REAL close to what i have on my k4.

old750 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 01, 2009, 04:47:06 AM »

Hey guys the bike is sold. No more bikes for me ;-) I'm building a cedar strip canoe. I really regret selling it for so little, especially with the rims.

my78k · « **Reply #45 on:** September 03, 2009, 01:54:45 PM »

Old750, where you at? I really wish I had the coin to drop on it as it had some serious potential! I too am in Whitby (Garrard and Manning actually).

Come to think of it I could use a canoe too....

Dennis

old750 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 03, 2009, 05:21:27 PM »

Garrard and Dryden. If you can't afford the bike you definitely wont be able to afford a cedar strip canoe. Bike is gone tomorrow

MCRider · « **Reply #47 on:** September 03, 2009, 05:28:17 PM »

Quote from: MoTo-BunnY on August 29, 2009, 01:48:44 PM

Here are a set of Henry Abe tappet covers that were on the feeBay last year - they went for a ton of money, too, like $150 or something.

I have a set of those for my current project, bot many years ago for an unremembered sum. Nice to know they are so valuable

my78k · « **Reply #48 on:** September 03, 2009, 05:55:15 PM »

Wow...I could have pushed the bike home!

Actually if the CBR was already sold I may have pulled the trigger...it's not so much the out lay of the money but the pit of money that the project becomes, especially if you want to do it right.

Dennis

P.S. still got any bikes? Always interested in people to ride with....

Zaipai · « **Reply #49 on:** September 03, 2009, 07:48:23 PM »

I just wanted to say thanks. I had been looking for some rims and did not know who made them. This thread was a wealth of knowledge and is going to help me as I try and find them. I like those tappet covers, but 150 is too steep for me but I will be keeping one eye open for them.

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Author Topic: Henry Abe (Read 15255 times)

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