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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2009, 04:28:09 am »
If anybody wants Higher resolution "vector" images to print the faces....PM me and I'll work something out for ya!

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2009, 06:59:42 pm »
I just cut my ring at the bottom, at 6 oclock, using a dremel cut off wheel.  After fixing my gauges I used a worm gear clamp to secure the ring in place and JB weld the gap in the ring.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #52 on: December 31, 2009, 07:27:27 am »
Paint can opener works great to get the gauges cases apart without the need to glue them back together. also a fork to pry the tach/speedo needles is a big help. good idea to use WD40 if the needle seems stuck.


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HedNut, would you possibly be able to vectorize the images of my CB500 gauges? I'm trying to learn the vector image software but its sloooow going. thanks
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2010, 07:52:44 am »
I'll give'r a shot!  Send me whatever file you have to my email (I'm sure it's in my profile)....and I'll take a stab.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2010, 09:05:12 am »
hey westondc.... i havent forgot about you...i seem to have lost my speedo face ??? thats what i get for taking it apart before i was ready to do anything with it. im hoping to have a vectorized image soon or as soon as i can find it... if you get one first let me know!

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2010, 07:57:50 am »
As requested by Dakota....
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2010, 03:00:17 am »
Hi,
thanx Hednut
i've got to rescale the gauges, they were to too large
i will post some pictures later

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2010, 06:37:59 am »
Hey Dakota...sorry bout' that.  That's where my computer-lack-O-savy comes in...ahah   I can print them on my end to scale from the initial program I use (Bently MicroStation) but once it's printed to a PDF (the file that my decal guy wanted to use) it's outa my realm of manipulation ahah.   Hopefully you can adjust reduction in your printer settings, if you can go by percentage....print out a draft copy...measure the Outside Diameter, and say it's.....4.7 inches... you need 3.5.... 3.5" divided by 4.7" give you 0.7446   So reducing it to 75% should get you close "slightly larger" by 10 thou on each side.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2010, 11:15:02 am »
another...
Those look awesome! Would would look really cool would be this style and color with the old HM and the old school wing ;)

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2010, 10:00:49 am »
What are you guys using to paint the cases? Regular Rustoleum flat black, semi gloss or gloss? I have to do a pair of K4's this winter. 

Did you guys use Rustoleum in a can for this or the spray type? Also for primer...what was used?

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2010, 04:41:01 pm »
Ya know I went through all this, separated the gauges using homemade tool, installed new gauge faces, re-installed and compressed the rings and all looked beautiful for about a month. Then the screw leaked some type of oil around the screw like you've seen on so many gauge faces. Now explanation for it. I didn't lube or put any oil in there. Looks crappy now. Just a word to the wise. Maybe use some type of solvent to be sure no oil gets on the screws or in the housing. This is what mine looked like just after I finished.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2010, 06:31:30 pm »
The oil or whatever it is around those screws is a weird phenomina...I had it happen on my KO gauges too. But those are a heck of a lot easier to fix than the ones with the ring. It is like there is some kind of reaction when you tighten them down. Like you squeeze the juice out of them...strange.
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2010, 05:06:22 am »
And you know I was going to replace the screws with after market. They are around 2.5mm but the thread pattern I could never match. It's like a Japanese watch in there.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2010, 05:46:19 am »
K4 - finished up the gauges. I did not cut the ring but decided to use the paint can opener method again. I just like the security of not cutting that ring. These will dress up the bike nicely. Now that the master is done for this bike I can get to the headlight bucket and get the wiring squared away. Then comes putting in the battery and making sure everything works...always a tense moment.  ;D
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2010, 06:03:54 am »
It's a little late for this comment, but it may help somebody...  When I restored my gauges, I worked the ring open as mentioned earlier.  To put them together, I turned a hole in a 2x6 on the lathe (mounted to a faceplate) that the gauge fit tightly into.  Then I wood clamped the assembly to the work bench.  That gave me a rock solid setup, the two halves were held tightly together and the ring was fully supported.  I was able to tap the ring back down with a soft punch and small hammer.  If I did this more often, I would've devised a way to set the gauge in the lathe, used the tailstock to hold the halves together and rolled the ring back in place.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #65 on: March 07, 2010, 07:24:24 pm »
It's a little late for this comment, but it may help somebody...  When I restored my gauges, I worked the ring open as mentioned earlier.  To put them together, I turned a hole in a 2x6 on the lathe (mounted to a faceplate) that the gauge fit tightly into.  Then I wood clamped the assembly to the work bench.  That gave me a rock solid setup, the two halves were held tightly together and the ring was fully supported.  I was able to tap the ring back down with a soft punch and small hammer.  If I did this more often, I would've devised a way to set the gauge in the lathe, used the tailstock to hold the halves together and rolled the ring back in place.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2010, 04:20:43 am »
Hi,
who knows where I can find these chrome rings?
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2010, 05:39:00 pm »
Hi,
who knows where I can find these chrome rings?
greetings,
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Are you talking about the beauty rings some folks add?  CRC has them for $29.95 (5th item down).
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2010, 07:00:58 pm »
Hi,
who knows where I can find these chrome rings?
greetings,
dakota

Are you talking about the beauty rings some folks add?  CRC has them for $29.95 (5th item down).
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2010, 10:12:16 am »
The probelm that I have had is, when putting the ring back on and clamping it with a nice round hose clamp, the ends at the seam do not stay down. I have done mine 4 times now and get the cut seam to look good before glue , but when clamp is removed I get real unhappy.  2 part epoxy I'm using is, is 3M DP125. I have cleaned the chrome ring and speedo/tach head with laquer thinner before gluing up too.  I am usually pretty good at this type of thing, but, I just cant seem to win this battle.... Yet.

I have 4 gauges that I need to do. Have lots of cut chrome rings. Would like to try your one piece method.

Would you happen to have any chrome rings available? I need 4!

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I will say that the ends will never stay for very long no matter what adhesive you use. I am sorry I ever told anyone to cut the ring. The solution on my gauges was to weld the ring together with a small wire welder in low setting and then grind off the excess. Naturally you have to mask everything when doing this or the slag will mess up your gauges. I park the weld at the 6 oclock position. So far mine are holding solid and I get no bezel rotation or loose components after 300 miles.

Another trick is that you could use a set of the chrome covers like Carpy uses on his bikes. They run about $35 if you can find a set. Glue the ring up again and install the covers. The cover clamp should hold the ring in place.

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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #70 on: March 21, 2010, 10:31:25 am »
Put the restored gauges on today and I am pleased with how they turned out. No, I did not cut the ring just worked it. Not something I would like to do everyday as it is tedious work on that ring.
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2010, 12:21:11 pm »
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Re: Disassembly of gauges
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2010, 07:55:26 am »
Johnie! Those are pristine!!!  Fantastic job man!!  Wow.....

Mine hit more on the "tattered-bad ass" edge of rebuild...ahah  But I like the turnout for my budget build...she won't be a show bike by any means...
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« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2010, 08:04:41 am »
looks good brendan!!  what color did you paint the reflector surface??
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« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2010, 09:24:34 am »
Thanks WannaB! If the reflector is the "sleeve" part that slides in the outer body of the upper gauge...I painted the top rim red (that you can see bordering the gauge face)....and left the rest original.

Is that the right part?? Or am I tarded'?