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Offline mister_ping

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Another Canadian eh?
« on: September 08, 2009, 07:30:35 AM »
Hey all.  I stumbled upon this site a while ago when researching the bike I bought, a 1978 CB550K.  Been lurking the forums for a while but never really posted anything, because unfortunately I have nothing to post about.  I'm a complete n00b when it comes to wrenching and I bought the bike with intent to get it running.  The project threads have been a big inspiration to get this thing going, however my wallet has put that idea on the backburner. 

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 05:02:22 PM »
Well hello there from another noop to the CB550 world. I also have a 78 CB550K and am interested in getting her going again.  Good luck with the build, and we'll see how she goes.

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 05:11:01 PM »
Hey! I get to welcome another Edmontonian to the board.I was begining to think I was alone out here... ;p

  Welcome and good luck with that project! You should post some pics.
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 06:43:21 AM »
I wish, I don't even own a camera.  It doesn't look like much now anyway, I stripped it of everything that doesn't work and to be honest it's not much now haha.  You're from E-town too?  What's your level of knowledge?  It would be nice to talk to someone in person about it so I can get some direction on where to begin.

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 08:20:19 AM »
WELCOME ABOARD eh!

 Cant help eith the 550,s, I am a 750 guy from Kelowna.

 Get er running..
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2009, 11:32:00 AM »
Welcome from NB
I love my little 550 but have been riding the 1100 lately.
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2009, 03:47:05 PM »
I have enough knowledge to get me by. and I have this board. Every time I have a question, someone here steps up with the answer. Or at least some helpful insight!

 If I were you, concentrate on getting her running. Everything else is cosmetic, and can wait.

 
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 06:48:05 AM »
Yeah cosmetics are the last thing on my to do list.  I just wanna ride.  I don't care how it looks.

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 02:37:09 PM »
ok, well, does it run at all? what is her status now?
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 07:08:07 AM »
It ran once...then no more.  The first thing I did was change the spark plugs and the oil, and when I noticed the carbs were overflowing I took them off and cleaned out the jets and scraped out the bowls.  I took it down the road and everything seemed alright, a little rough.  The next day it wouldn't even hold idle, and the bowls overflowed again.  Is there a certain order that things need to go with a tune up?  I was just thinking of following the Clymer manual and starting with valve clearance, then points/timing and then get some carb kits.  I literally have no clue about bikes and am not very mechanically inclined.  But I was hoping with a Clymer manual and some elbow grease I could resurrect this thing.

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 01:15:04 PM »
the clymer manual is pretty good. It isn't the be all end all, but you can definitely follow it for the basic maintanence.
 Sounds like you are definitely on track. I would get carb kits definitely, seing as it sounds like your float valves are shot. While they are open, make sure the float heights are correct. I got a small metal slide ruler at Canadian tire for this. It works very well, but make sure you check both sides of the float. Make sure when you check valve clearances that the bike is dead cold. Leaving it overnight is usually the best way to go.

  As far a runnign goes, the easiest thing to check is spark. I always start with that. Just pull the plugs, and crank her over while holding the plug against the case. Just be careful, you can get a nice comfy shock or two from this. While you have them out, check thier condition. Are they wet? If so, with what... gas or oil? Are they black and sooty? Typically you want the insulator to be a mid-shade of tan... (I believe the clymer manual has a spark plug guide near the front of the book)

  After that there's fuel and compression. Compression is easy enough to check. Put your thumb over the plug hole and turn it over. If it easily blows your thumb away, you have enough compression to run. Fuel is the hardest one, IMHO, but it's more intimidating than actually difficult.
  Your 78 should have keihin PD carbs. Since april, I've had mine apart 7 times, so I'm a bit of an expert on these. Haha. Make sure when your carb  kits come in, you replace the o-rings underneath your pilot jet screws. I mention them because they are hard to see, they are difficult to get out, and they can cause major headaches.

  Wow, I went on. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 09:56:14 PM »
Thanks for the tips  ;D

As for carb kits, I've been having a hard time tracking them down online, would it be worth the extra dough to get them straight from Honda?  Also, the rubber tubes between the airbox and the carbs are shot, is there a place that sells them or would it just be easier to put pods on? 

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 10:16:11 PM »
Hmm, I got my carb kit from parts n more but it seams they don't have one for your bike. Nor does z1. interesting. As far as the boots go, you could try a Honda dealer. Scona cycle is your best bet in town here, since they've been around forever. They're on Whyte ave. I wouldn't put money on it though. There may be some way to repair them. Ask the guys here, many people have tried different things, and may be able to give you some insight. Those carb kits, though, I would go aftermarket, if they are available, Honda asks too much. I'll see if I can find them somewhere...
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 10:33:04 PM »
ok, I did some looking around, and the only thing available that I can fine, specifically for your bike are two things, both on ebay. One only has the float bowl gaskets and float valves. That may be enough, but not likely. The other included pretty well every replaceable part in the carb, and is way more than you need, and at 50 bucks a piece (200 for the whole rack) I don't imagine you'll want to be doing that.
  Now, what I did see is that the cb 750 and 550 packing kits seem to be the same. You may want to ask around first, but since they don't contain jets, and the carbs appear to be the same structure, I think you're good to go.
  I hope I'm helping. 

 Also, visit the FAQ section of the board. There is a carb specific part of the board with TONNES of helpul hints and info!
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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2009, 09:34:40 AM »
Hmmm...so those rubber things are called boots?  Carb boots I'm assuming.  Thanks for looking, I'll keep my eye on that $50 one, a little pricey, but we'll see after I hit up Scona.  I think the bike was originally bought there.  There is a Scona Cycle sticker on it I think.  One last question, what is a packing kit?

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Re: Another Canadian eh?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2009, 11:49:40 AM »
A packing kit Usually includes all the rubber replacement parts for the carbs, as well as the float valves.
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