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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2005, 02:51:07 pm »
Here is a replacement 77-78 CB750F tank right out of the box.  Candy Presto Red.
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2005, 02:44:10 am »
TT,
Looks just like mine, same pinstripes and badges. I think I can assume that the whole tank was changed. Still don't know if it is Presto or Antares?
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2005, 05:09:00 pm »
Quote from: TwoTired on December 09, 2005, 11:02:52 am
Quote from: grumburg on December 08, 2005, 07:06:08 pm
Swaped emails with dondirtbiker regarding a candy kit for my cb550. Appears my paint problem is solved, but need some sort of stencil to outline the black cove. Tank was repainted yellow (painter apparently was paid by the quart). Don't have any guide for the size and curve fot he black.

The black panel insert was a different shape between the 74 and 75 models.  Is a tracing what you are after, and which one?

I have both tanks, neither are perfect.  But, they still have the original  panel outlines.

My 75 (in picture) has a stripe. Would really appreciate an outline of the cove on the 75 tank. 
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2005, 05:10:15 pm »
Correction!! Outline of the 74 tank
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2005, 06:02:22 pm »
Is a picture good enough?  Or, will you need a tracing.

When the sun comes up again and it isn't raining, I can drag the bike out of the garage thingy for pics etc.
Let me know what you need.  I can include a scale in the pic if that's enough.

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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2005, 02:33:10 am »
Bob, that tank you put up is DEFINATELY Candy Gold Custom!!! The Flake Sunrise Orange is WAY more Garish and of a distinctred colour with themetal flake apearing as different colours as i remember it. In my "collection" i have 500/550 NOS Candy gold, Boss marron Metallic tanks and several side covers including one green i cant identify. If I ever get time i will try and take pics of the side covers that are all NOS. I also have  a Flake Sunrise used tank somewhere (and i think a NOS side cover)
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2005, 04:02:29 am »
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Bob, that tank you put up is DEFINATELY Candy Gold Custom!!!

Thanks. It's lineage was always suspect since it is not original to my bike. Is that a K2 color?
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2005, 04:12:09 am »
Hi Bob There were actually two golds one was Starlight Gold and the other was Candy Gold Custom but in all honesty I could never tell them apart Starlight was 69/70 Candy Gold 70 on. As us outbackers in the UK only ever had the K1 and K2 oficially (Honda kept making the K2 all the way throught till 76 for us) we never saw some of the "pretier" colours you had
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2005, 04:28:22 am »
I'd make some eyewitness wouldn't I? "Officer, the bank robber drove away in an orange car. Yes, I'm positive it was orange."  ;D
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2005, 06:37:50 am »
What about some actual colourcodes, that you can give to the painter, so it will be the EXCACT colour you want?

I sure would like the purple colourcode for the japanese version, it's sweet :)
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2005, 08:15:48 am »
lassenc there are NO colour codes for Honda colours. And as most of them are three pack candies there aint even a standard colour as you can make it lighter or darker as you spray it
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2005, 08:24:37 am »
Quote from: bryanj on December 18, 2005, 08:15:48 am
lassenc there are NO colour codes for Honda colours. And as most of them are three pack candies there aint even a standard colour as you can make it lighter or darker as you spray it

There will always be a code for a colour, if not in RAL format, then in another, you can count on that!
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2005, 10:37:07 am »
Quote from: lassenc on December 18, 2005, 08:24:37 am
There will always be a code for a colour, if not in RAL format, then in another, you can count on that!

Zane covered this pretty well in post #8 of this thread.  But, if you want codes go here for codes.  Won't help much, though.  Follow the links to find out why.

http://www.motorcycleproject.com/motorcycle/text/lubrtech.html
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2005, 11:23:41 am »
Quote from: TwoTired on December 18, 2005, 10:37:07 am
Quote from: lassenc on December 18, 2005, 08:24:37 am
There will always be a code for a colour, if not in RAL format, then in another, you can count on that!

Zane covered this pretty well in post #8 of this thread.  But, if you want codes go here for codes.  Won't help much, though.  Follow the links to find out why.

http://www.motorcycleproject.com/motorcycle/text/lubrtech.html

Unfortunately I can't get the website to work for me :(

Can you paste the code for me?
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2005, 04:12:43 pm »
Is this what you want?

Model Factory Color Top Coat Middle Coat Base Coat Notes  1969
CB750 Candy Ruby Red Candy Ruby Red
HC-16-201   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color   Candy Gold Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color   Candy Blue Green Candy Blue Green
HC-16-501   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color 1970-71 CB750 Candy Ruby Red Candy Ruby Red
HC-16-201   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color   Candy Gold Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color   Candy Garnet Brown Candy Garnet Brown
HC-16-204   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color   Valley Green Metallic Valley Green Metallic
HM-16-901   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Headlight shell and fork ears same color 1971
CB500 Candy Garnet Brown Candy Garnet Brown
HC-16-204   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black trim   Candy Starlight Gold Candy Starlight Gold
HC-16-601   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black trim   Candy Jade Green Candy Jade Green
HC-16-904   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 The ID book's "Jet" Green may be a typo 1972
CB 500 Candy Jade Green Candy Jade Green
HC-16-904   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100     Candy Garnet Brown Candy Garnet Brown
HC-16-204   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100     Candy Gold Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100   1972
CB750 Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100     Brier Brown Metallic Brier Brown Metallic
HM-16-201       1972-73
CB350 Four Flake Matador Red Candy Matador Red
HC-16-205 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100     Candy Bacchus Olive Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Blue Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-106   1973
CB750 Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 White, gold, and black trim   Candy Bacchus Olive Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Blue Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-106 White, gold, and black trim   Maxim Brown Metallic Maxim Brown Metallic
HM-16-202     White, gold, and black trim 1973
CB500 Candy Bacchus Olive Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Blue Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-106 Black and white trim   Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black and white trim   Maxim Brown Metallic Maxim Brown Metallic
HM-16-202     Black and white trim 1974
CB750 Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 White, gold, and black trim   Freedom Green Metallic Freedom Green Metallic
HM-16-904     White, gold, and black trim   Boss Maroon Metallic Boss Maroon Metallic
HM-16-203     White, gold, and black trim 1974
CB550 Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black and white trim   Boss Maroon Metallic Boss Maroon Metallic
HM-16-203     Black and white trim   Freedom Green Metallic
HM-16-904         1974
CB350F Glory Blue Black Metallic       This color from the ID book is not mentioned by Lubritech 1975
CB750 Flake Apricot Red Candy Ruby Red
HC-16-201 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Special Silver Basecoat
UC-16-102 White, gold, and black trim   Planet Blue Metallic Planet Blue Metallic
HM-16-505     White, gold, and black trim 1975
CB750F Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black sidecovers   Candy Sapphire Blue Candy Sapphire Blue
HC-16-502   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black sidecovers 1975
CB550 Candy Jade Green Candy Gold
HC-16-600   Mariana Blue Metallic Basecoat
HM-16-504 Black and gold trim   Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Black and gold trim 1975
CB550F Flake Sunrise Orange Candy Orange
HC-16-202 Flake Silver Basecoat
UC-16-103 Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100     Candy Sapphire Blue Candy Sapphire Blue
HC-16-502   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100   1975
CB400F Light Ruby Red Candy Ruby Red
HC-16-201   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100 Sidecovers same color   Burnish Blue Burnish Blue
HS-16-501     Sidecovers same color
The ID book calls it "Varnish" Blue 1976
CB750 Candy Antares Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Special Silver Basecoat
UC-16-102   1976
CB750F Candy Antares Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Special Silver Basecoat
UC-16-102 Black sidecovers   Sulfur Yellow Sulfur Yellow
HS-16-605     Black sidecovers 1976
CB750
Automatic Candy Antares Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118 Formula change?   Muscrat Green Metallic Muscrat Green Metallic
HM-16-905       1976
CB550 Candy Garnet Brown Candy Garnet Brown
HC-16-204       1976 CB400F Light Ruby Red Candy Ruby Red
HC-16-201   Candy Silver Basecoat
UC-16-100     Parakeet Yellow Parakeet Yellow
HS-16-604       1977
CB750 Candy Alpha Red Candy Matador Red
HC-16-205   Light Gray Basecoat
UC-16-117 Formula change?   Excell Black Excell Black
HS-16-400       1977
CB750F Candy Presto Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118     Black Motorcycle Gloss Black
BG-16-400       1977
CB750
Automatic Candy Alpha Red Candy Matador Red
HC-16-205   Light Gray Basecoat
UC-16-117     Candy Polaris Blue Candy Blue Green
HC-16-501   Lava Gray Metallic
HC-16-100   1977
CB550 Excel Black Excel Black
HS-16-400       1977
CB550F Candy Presto Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118     Candy Sword Blue Candy Sword Blue
HC-16-504   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118   1977
CB400F Candy Antares Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118     Parakeet Yellow Parakeet Yellow
HS-16-604       1978
CB750 Candy Alpha Red Candy Alpha Red
HC-16-205   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118     Excel Black Excel Black
HS-16-400       1978
CB750F Candy Presto Red Candy Antares Red
HC-16-210   Light Gray Metallic Basecoat
UC-16-118     Black Motorcycle Gloss Black
BG-16-400       1978
CB750
Automatic Candy Polaris Blue Candy Blue Green
HC-16-501   Lava Gray Metallic
HM-16-100     Candy Alpha Red Candy Matador Red
HC-16-205   LTD Gray Basecoat
UC-16-117   1979
CB650 Candy Muse Red Candy Matador Red
HC-16-205   LTD Gray Metallic
UC-16-117 Maroon and gold trim   Black Motorcycle Gloss Black
BG-16-400     Red trim 1980
CB650 Candy Bourgogne Red Candy Bourgogne Red
R-107C-U         Black Black
NH-1-U       1980
CB650C Candy Muse Red Candy Matador Red
R-104C-U       1981
CB650 Candy Bourgogne Red Candy Bourgogne Red
R-107C-U         Cosmo Black Metallic Cosmo Black Metallic
B100MU-U       1981
CB650C Candy Muse Red Candy Matador Red
R-104C-U     Brown trim   Candy Universal Blue Candy Universal Blue
PB110C-U     This color from the ID book is not mentioned by Lubitech
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2005, 05:51:33 am »
Well, yes it was, though I only needed the purple color ;)
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« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2005, 10:25:58 am »
Be carefull what you ask for.  You might just get it.

Be sure to report back if you find any paint shops the can recognize and cross those codes into modern numbers of paint sold by manufacturers that are still in bussines.

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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2005, 01:14:47 pm »
not sure but those codes look like house of kolor numbers
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2005, 07:41:23 pm »
Quote from: TwoTired on December 17, 2005, 06:02:22 pm
Is a picture good enough?  Or, will you need a tracing.

When the sun comes up again and it isn't raining, I can drag the bike out of the garage thingy for pics etc.
Let me know what you need.  I can include a scale in the pic if that's enough.

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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2005, 03:01:22 am »
Note: I quoted the information in this post from Mike Nixon's excellent website, motorcycleproject.com.  If you haven't seen this website, I recommend it highly.

The original information on the Lubritech paint numbers is at  http://www.motorcycleproject.com/motorcycle/text/notes1.html

In short, Mike says:

"The paint situation with Honda motorcycles is even more complicated. To begin with, as is the case with most motorcycles, after-the-sale paint availability has been spotty at best, with such availability having taken three different forms during the company's history. The first time, during the 60s, American Honda sold a small (about 3 oz.) can of Japanese-labeled touch-up paint; the same container came in the crate with 750s. This was the only time factory paint was available to the public. The second time Honda got involved with paint was during the 70s, when American Honda formally endorsed the product of an American aftermarket lubricants company called Lubritech... The third time was in 1982, when Honda again, as in the 70s, took to selling paint themselves. This time however the paint was not its own, but the product of the Los Angeles-based paint jobber Original Brands ... Within a very short time, Original Brands was sold to or became Color Rite, who currently maintains matching paint for most motorcycles, including Hondas, made from 1982 onward."

Now if we could only get Color Rite (http://www.colorrite.com) to offer these colors again.  Anyone know if there are specific post-1982 colors that match the SOHC4 colors?  That would be a useful list to have.

Isn't there someone who sells paint on ebay and supposedly has matches for some of these colors?
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2005, 09:01:43 am »
This is original colour, not a repaint of Candy Ruby Red.
I bought this bike new and been very careful with the paint so it hasn't faded very much.
The silver with black stripes looks interesting. I've read that the 1968 prototype was silver with a red and white tank stripe.
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2005, 09:25:49 am »
Nice bike; you've had it from new? Well done on keeping it so nice.
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2005, 09:56:42 am »
Thanks! Watched it come out of the packing crate in September 1971. It was a garage princess for quite some time - one of those mythical "parked it and forgot it" bikes we're all searching for.
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« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2005, 10:49:30 am »
Cliff,
Noy many original owners on the forum I bet?
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Re: How about a paint color topic... Color library?
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2005, 04:03:29 pm »
Okay here is the black part of the CB550 tank for 1974.  Ignore the paint color is was maroon in 1974.  But, all the red candy faded completely away leaving it brown.
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