Topic: Was anyone else deeply offended by the "You Lie!" outburst?

[DammitDan]

I listened to President Obama's speech in the car.  Obama was talking about what wouldn't be in the healthcare reform bill and mentioned that illegal aliens would not be allowed any coverage.  Period.  The grumbling died down and there it was, hanging in the middle of the silence...

"YOU LIE!"

My jaw dropped open when I heard that.  Republican Representative Wilson of South Carolina heckling the President of the United States during a nationally broadcast joint session of Congress?

Jesus Christ.  What has happened to this country?

[BeSeeingYou]

Talk about sh!tting in your pants in front of the whole country.  He has embarrassed his party and his state but I am sure he will be a hero with all the dildo, I mean ditto heads on El Rushbo tomorrow.  I think he actually violated some House rules so let's hope he is made an example out of.  It is shameful that a member Congress has so little self control.

[mrblasty]

I think it's time for the gloves to come off.  During the speech he said the program would be funded by fees and cut backs in other services as needed, that the policy would not be unfunded like the "tax cuts for the rich, the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan all of which the previous administration had allowed"  It was nice to hear a little venom in his voice today.

[tomkimberly]

When could the truth offend anyone?

Obma lies every time he opens his mouth.

This county has really sunk to new lows since he has been in office.

Ask yourself this question, are you better off now or before?

Tom

[mrblasty]

When could the truth offend anyone?

Obma lies every time he opens his mouth.

This county has really sunk to new lows since he has been in office.

Ask yourself this question, are you better off now or before?

Tom

What lies has he told? Citations please, and lets keep the truther cut and paste bull #$%* off the board, it's tired.  I'm afraid you have your president's mixed up. The liar was last term. 

[tomkimberly]

What lies has he told? Citations please, and lets keep the truther cut and paste bull #$%* off the board, it's tired.  I'm afraid you have your president's mixed up. The liar was last term. 
[/quote]

Gee, off the top of my head, first there would be no "public" option, then the next time, there "must" be a public option, "the recession is over", "we are "loaning" this money so the banks can start making loans again (have you tried to get a loan lately?), and the kicker, CEO pay will be limited to those businesses that money was given to (what a laugh!).

BTW, what makes you think I liked the previous administration any better?

It is sad to see over half of the people on my street no longer employed due to bad decisions made by ignorant politicians voted into office by ignorant voters.


Tom

[mark]

"YOU LIE!"

My jaw dropped open when I heard that.  Republican Representative Wilson of South Carolina heckling the President of the United States during a nationally broadcast joint session of Congress?

Jesus Christ.  What has happened to this country?

well, gee.....

the guy was wearing his Jeff Foxworthy 'here's your sign', wasn't he?

same voters elected that d-bag Governor who can't find a red-blooded American to philander with.

 

[Ecosse]

call me crazy but i still think the day will come when otherwise intelligent people will drop the partisan sniping and realize a majority of these bums are not on our side. and that includes this guy who just bumped carter from the 'worst prez in modern history' position. bo is not looking out for the little guy any more than the rest.

someone correct me if this clip is wrong.

[Cvillechopper]

I was actually more offended that Obama said congress should not vote based on fear of not getting elected again but be strong.  Basically, don't vote the way the people who put you in office want you to vote.  Our government if farther from the people it represents every day.

He is a good speaker but the entire push to get this reform bill through so quickly is reckless.  When he mentioned the fear that this reform will lead to a government take-over I chuckled because the defense presented against that is so short term.  It seems that a short-term solution is acceptable to some although many aspects will lead the industry down a dark path. 

Obama did hint at one of the underlying issues with the malpractice tort reform which surprised me.

I attached this in another thread and will here as well.  Read if you like.  Feedback requested.  I am trying to open another view in the discussion that Washington seems to be ignoring.

[edbikerii]

Offended?  I'm glad to see that one member of congress wasn't completely afraid of speaking up in defiance of the steamroller democrat machine.  Unfortunately, that congressman will suffer for it politically.  Those bastards will nail that poor guy to the cross.

ALL of our elected representatives should have been jumping up and down, yelling "LIAR, LIAR" at the top of their lungs!  Unfortunately, it is now simply understood and accepted that our President will lie to us in front of congress.  Nobody expects anything but.

This doesn't even compare to the time the American Bar Association openly booed a former Vice President off the stage when he delivered a speech advocating frivolous lawsuit reform.  Does anybody else remember that?  That was truly a shameful moment in history.

Obama says he won't sign anything that increases deficit spending, yet he proposes a plan that costs over $900 BILLION dollars of additional deficit.  Surprise, people, but we have a massive deficit.  Any additional spending is deficit spending.  THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIE OF ALL, YET NOBODY CALLED HIM ON IT?

[Uncle Ernie]

Don't worry Ed- he's from South Carolina.  If anything, that's considered getting an early start on the next election.

If Obama is lying all that much, I'd say he follows a tradition burnished by the most recent Bush-Cheney regime.  But really, ploiticians have been accused of lying since the invention of the election.  Nothing new here.

Regarding last night's speech, it would have been fun if Obama called the guy out.  All of one side of that room was so histrionic with their long, stern stares. 
As I've said before- none of them need healthcare, so none of them really care about coming up with solutions.  (That includes the Demsocrats, BTW)

[Duke McDukiedook]

I'm offended he didn't jump up and say "WE LIE! We All lie and this reform will be yet another #$%*ty, useless band-aid, not a real solution to the problem!"

[Inigo Montoya]

Hey ed, obama lies as much as YOU do.

tomkim, I think the crack pipe needs to be put down. when is it lying to say, no public option then after more talks, to decide it should be there? What, people cant change their minds? Or is that people YOU dont like cant change their minds.

I can with out a DOUBT say I am certainly no worse off under Obama than I was under Bush.
Also, if you bothered to check out something besides (what I suspect) faux news, you would know that yes there are still foreclosures going on, JUST AS THERE WERE UNDER BUSH, but the home market has started to slowly climb again.
The rate of job loss is decreasing.

Oh I get it, people like you think that for obama to be doing it right, everyone should have their jobs back overnight, even though that has never happened with a republican in office.

Do you think, just once, that you could put away the political crap and stop flying solely on party lines like ed?
I bet if mccain had gotten in and done the EXACT same thing, you would not be up in arms. Oh yes, you will deny it, like ed would, but I think at this time, the rest of us would see through the smoke.

[MCRider]

t'was ever thus, t'will ever be.

Long before any of us were born, there was outright violence in Congress, knives, guns. All manner of hooting and hollering.

What happened last night was nothing, less than nothing.

Offended! hardly, the more contentiousness there is, perhaps the less likely something really stupid will get passed. Non-partisanship is fairytales. If frogs had wings they'd fly.

It may be too late to hope for that.

Compromise is mediocrity.  

Duke it out I say!  (figuratively speaking of course.  )

[Inigo Montoya]

Have you seen some asian govts? Man they throw shoes and anything they can pick up! Pretty wild stuff, maybe our congress needs to do that. Weed out the weak ones!

[gregimotis]

Must....not....post......must....resist....

[edbikerii]

Once again, the "problem" isn't really that much of a problem in the first place.  According to Gallup polls 87% of Americans rate American health care as Excellent or Good.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/122663/Private-Public-Health-Plan-Subscribers-Rate-Plans-Similarly.aspx?CSTS=alert

I'm offended he didn't jump up and say "WE LIE! We All lie and this reform will be yet another #$%*ty, useless band-aid, not a real solution to the problem!"

[myhondas]

Must....not....post......must....resist....

let me help you and you help me..... AAAhhhhhhgggggggg!!!!!!1

[Roach Carver]

Out government- Democrat or Republican is so far removed from the average person it is unbelievable. If they were willing to use this healthcare plan for themselves and family I might be able to get on board, but you know how that will be. Just like their retirment plans( not social security ) they will have a much better plan than made available to you or me. As far as the turn around in this country, Yeah for Obama. If it was not him it would have been the other guy. This country is strong and left alone I think it will always prosper. As someone said in another thread there are too many foreign interests in this country for us to go into the hopper.

[ev0lve]

Compromise is mediocrity.

You may have missed how congress actually does it's work - from the beginning compromise is the ONLY way things get done.

And I agree, let the Joe Wilsons holler. It's just that much quicker they'll fall off the national stage.

[Gordon]

Must....not....post......must....resist....

let me help you and you help me..... AAAhhhhhhgggggggg!!!!!!1

May I join your club?

[BeSeeingYou]

Must....not....post......must....resist....

Resistance is futile ......you will be assimilated into this thread.

[bill440cars]

Must....not....post......must....resist....

let me help you and you help me..... AAAhhhhhhgggggggg!!!!!!1

May I join your club?

   Is there room for another?

[DammitDan]

What scares me is all this rhetoric coming from the right is getting more and more incendiary.

I actually had someone tell me "Obama is a Muslim and he's not even an American-born citizen!  You should listen to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, they really know what they're talking about."

I didn't think people actually BELIEVED the crap that is being spouted by Fox News.

The problem is, if it's okay to be incredibly disrespectful of the office and heckle the President and call him a liar DURING his speech, we're just that much closer to a #$%*ing crazy person taking all the LIES too seriously and taking matters into his own hands.

I don't normally pray about things, but I pray that day won't come...  The right is certainly inciting it to happen, though.

[Inigo Montoya]

I will help to assimilate you all!!!!  If we, the people, actually stopped voting for the same coin/flip side guys, then change might actually happen. I mean I never voted mccain OR obama. Ultimately their goals are the same and it is not us they are concerned about.