Ok. I will bite. Undercover? Sting Operation? Wow, that is a nicely folded tin foil hat you have.....
And that's a rude attacking lie you have going there.Good job, you've done it again.While I can't speak for anyone else on this forum, I have been very clear from the begining that the employee of charlie's was unhelpful
and I felt that she was rude.
You just felt so, but in fact can't name a single insult she leveled, of course you surpass that rudeness immediately in your reply to me. It is a statement of personal feeling so it does not have to be quantativley defined.
You don't have to state the obvious again, it is clear it was all about "your feelings". Your poor little feelings got hurt, she looked at you and you got a vibe. Frankly I sure wish she would have given you the finger, then we would know you aren't just a sensitive nellie who didn't get their way with parts, so the pissing and moaning in anger and resentment was all you had left to do. But of course, that is what happened, nothing else. In fact you were so far in the wrong, she should have given you the finger.Since you were not there you could not be a judge of that situation so any comparison as to how rude one person is vs another is baseless and without merit because you are working off my sparse description.
Oh you did your best there bubba, and it was more than clear to me, and still is. You can't even come up with a single phrase, but boy her tone and manner. You must watch O'Reilly, all night, with the body language expert. Yeah, that's exactly where your complaint stands. "She only talked to him for 5 seconds" -multiple times for you... LOL
You want to tell us what the answers were - we know you inquired about the guitar... I am positive I am leaving out details (I didn't even talk about the other parts I wanted which were a pair of caliper pistons for a 750). But hey if you want to say this forum is collectivley ruder than.....it's your opinion and you are free to it. Just don't be surprised when a lot of people disagree with you.
Yeah, the other parts you didn't get. Gosh, and if you had, you would have left your card and wrote up a good article for him as you said, but of course, you weren't under cover. LOL
Man, it's just amazing what liars we have nowadays.
Come on search your memory, she had to SAY something there bub, come on you can do it.
I didn't identify myself as such because I wanted no "special treatment" - My first impression of a shop is how they treat their walk-ins and Charlie's place failed miserably because of his "gatekeeper staff".
This absolutely proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you went in undercover.Doesn't matter what your EXCUSE is then or now, you plainly state you kept your identity guarded, so you could "test" how they treat "walk-ins".
It DOESN'T MATTER ONE WHIT THAT YOU POST I AM WEARING TIN FOIL, WHEN YOU ARE A LIAR, AND YOU KNOW IT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. I'm just big enough to point it out, instead of lying to kiss your fanny. Still feel like lying about it ? As it stands I still got to shoot several cool pics of the shop with the EOS 20D, but had I gotten a warmer reception I would have at least convinced charlie to let me do a feature on his shop for HFL and def would have posted more positive things here. This absolutely proves your method is as I stated, since you stated it, before you tried to lie about it in your reply. You go in pretending to be no one, then, if you get your warm reception for the little guy, you do a good feature- as YOU SAID - what you lied about as well, is leaving out the little problem with the parts you didn't get - which is the very foundational basis for all your whinng, NOT THE WOMAN'S "attitude", which is only YOUR EXCUSE.Basically the impression I got was that they couldn't be bothered to to help a walk in like me.
Yes, once again, you made your undercover sting mission impression clear, but didn't wail about not getting the parts, which of course detracts absolutely from your "credible assessment of "VIBES" - LOL
Vibes Baby ! Call O'Reilly Factor and get the blonde guest in, this Charlie worker needs to be evaluated ! . Nevermind that I am a VJMC rep in my own state. Or that I freelance for motorcycle magazines. Or that I work part time at Hell for Leather motorcycle blog (hellforleathermagazine.com).
Here, you reverse your secret agent man face, and brag about "who you are". We obviously cannot nevermind it, because you brought it up, because it is and was part of your sting plan as you said. (if there is an angle in it for me it is usually indirect like page views for HFL or advertising, or getting paid for mag content). And the tank, and your ego posting here, and your work and GETTING PAID.----
This is why Charlie's "has a reputation", because arrogant liars come in and play their don't you know who I am games while their objectivity is down the crapper because THEY WANT PARTS, then spread their FUD and lies on the net, and most of the people go along with them, because they cower under the presence of the corrupted jerk spewing his complaint with twisted lies for cover.
I DID NOT say more people dissed charlie than praised him. I DID say that others had had a similar expirence and here was written proof of that.
20 to 7 for vs against settles that, and your complaint is 100% invalid.Let's be clear about this...am I a little self important? sure I'll own up to that, but so is anybody who has a bike that needs parts or needs service and is going to a shop. Afterall I am not buying parts or having my bike fixed for the shop's benefit. I am having it fixed for my own. Another LIE for cover, you're SELF IMPORTANT, unlike the "average joe" you were pretending to be, because of all your MC affiliations, and you make CERTAIN we all know about it in your first post, which on the whole says, anal ego flying everywhere " I could have really done something with all my connections for Charlie ".
So, you just pulled another BIG FAT LIE above. You're a real number.
Really I was looking to buy the paint job from charlie more than the tank itself. All that was already patently obvious, who cares, other than your greed for the extra tank, your bragging about your ultra rare, your exposure about "I'd sell if someone really needed it" (which means of course they MUST have the bike it fits and be restoring, SAME POLICY AS CHARLIES, and you wouldn't just take joe blows words for it, EITHER.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE A BIG FAT LYING HYPOCRIT COMPLAINER, TOO.The bit about my wife was a joke intended to inject a little humor in the situation. Yeah, I'm sure you're loaded, hence your arrogant response at the shop and here.I am not upset about losing a magazine comission because there was no comission to be had.
Yeah, whatever, whatever the earnings are or whatever you call them, who cares, the point is still the same, mr undercover, make money bragger, get my parts, corrupted whiner.In full disclosure.
Oh, boy here we go another chance for mr corrupted "reporter" to "disclose his brag". Really, who gives a crap ?
You're a sneaking liar, and that was always the point. I'll just delete most of your spew because you lied again, "no advertising is bad advertising, to cover up your own corruption, and "make it all better" in your brainwashed cranium. so most of what I earn comes fromAhh, that's enough. All anyone needs to know, nothing else.
The reason I brought up my interest in magazines at all was to show that when I approach a shop like this it is usually out of the sense of community and not out of pecuniary interests.
There we go, another big fat LIE. Let's just say you do it all for free, why the hell not....hree we go again... time for pouty no parts boy to brag... and lie I devote a large portion of my time and energy to my local scene and expect no payment in return. Knew it was coming, just like "you'll do anything for a shop without asking anything in return". SURE. So now it's all about your whole life's story, not you, the undercover DICK, who didn't get his parts and whined about vibes. GREAT, I'm sure I'm the only one who doesn't believe you.
This year the NY chapter of the VJMC sponsored a show and all the prizes given away came out of my own pocket because the organization is not for profit and has no money.
Gosh, how did ever stand "vibes" when you're such a big fat rich loaded prize giver ? Is your "ego" back together yet ?
I'm more than certain you know I'm 100% correct, you should actually get to your priest or on your knees and ask for guidance. Deal with it.
I only added those things in in the post to illustrate you never know who your customer is
Well, sorry charlie, but you know who your customer is when they AREN'T UNCOVER, trying to evaluate wether or not "the little man" is treated "properly". or who he has connections to.
Oh, yes of course, yes... LOL - hahaha - Oh man... you';re so self deluded and so used to lying it comes out of you without blinking, or you're just a dark soul, who knows and who cares.Had I had a positive expirence I would have been happy to put forth my time and energy because I feel that there are few shops that really take care of the people and its hobby.Gee, ya think you "removed" your "I'd make money" PROBLEM yet ? You know it WAS A BRAG, DOESN'T HE KNOW WHO I AM AND WHAT I CAN DO FOR HIM !!?? - but now you're trying to "take it all back" !
ROFLMAO
You won't be too surprised if your BS isn't believed, will you ?
Let me be totally transparent as to why I was at charlie's in the first place. NO ONE EVER STOPPED YOU FROM BEING BUT YOU, BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD LYING AGAIN, TO COVER UP YOUR UNDERCOVER EVALUATIONS, as now it's CONVENIENT for you as well.
So let's see, now it's no paying "fringe industry work" and "I was just there for parts"
YOU NEED TO MAKE UP YOUR MIND LIAR.
I was there to buy parts. Yes, amongst other things, like placing your card after evaluation to "do some work and spread the word"...as you initially said, but now you try to retract. LOLOLOLL
Oh man, you are one helluva liar.
So, now which do we believe, the lie before or this one now ?
Story of "how I got there" DELETED, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY SAID THAT'S "HOW YOU DO IT", YOU SHOW UP ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH YOUR SECRET EVALUATIONS, YOU MADE A VERY LARGE POINT IT IS HOW YOU ASSESS SHOPS, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE JUST A WALKIN!
DELETE !
I was not there to do anything else per se, but if it turned out to be cool enough that is the kind of thing I like to see get promoted in the hobby.
Yeah, yeah yeah, that's how everything works, doesn't say anything unless you're a big fat liar about all your "industry work", so if you have lied your butt off about that, then you are a nobody, and weren't undercover. But of course, we both know all that, and the answers. I did not know he was in a meeting with someone else.
Oh boy. All I could see in his office was a person with their back to the window. If there was another person there I could not see them. I do remember asking if charlie was going to be free soon and the response I got was "I don't know".
BUT, your anger was so activated by that time - as you "claimed" to Charlie here, you never asked for Charlie until she was "vibing" you..., you spewed about whomever "just sitting there" or "not doing much". Really, WHATEVER. The woman opened the door, talked to him for 5 seconds, I'm just "certain" you never heard two voices in there, or saw whomever animated in talking to someone...
Another WHO CARES, but of course, according to you, you're 100% innocent. LOL
ROFLMAOI dare you to make less sense. First - not super rare. Uncommon, for sure, super rare? WHO CARES, that's not the point obviously. But I can certainly believe like any other liar without any other valid angle, pointing out I don't have "rarirty" down on some obscure gas tank is about all you get for any point that doesn't even matter, in your "rebuttal" we covered that. and I will continue to call it an ultrarare just so you can have your diversionary hissy fit. According to his policy stated here I met all the criteria.
Gee, I own the same bike in mint condition. Now, I meet the policy, right ? NO I DON'T.
YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT.
You aren't a freaking 3rd grader, but you sure take the opportunity again to pretend to be one.
Of course you know that, but playing dumb, whining, pissing in tears.... not ADMITTING YOU BLEW IT and there was NO BASIS FOR THEM TO BELIEVE YOU - SINCE YOU WERE HIDING WHO YOU ARE....JUST AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN WITH YOU.
According to what his employee said I was also not part of their scene or not spending other service money with their shop, or some other reason I was not local and therefore not entitled to buy from their stash. That makes it seem like there is no policy at all. Well on that note, and however that part of any conversation or your VIBE IMPRESSION went down, it pretty clear what a shop like that would have it for, what it would be about. Like you said, you support "your area" where you live, even with donated time and prizes, and that shop supports it's 'San Fran" area FIRST, and in this day and age of globalization that should be appreciated, even if some hotshot like you didn't initially get what they wanted because they were keeping their identity a secret.
It certainly seems to me, offhand, that you sure can get that tank now, and maybe you already made the deal.
So much for " the activist who makes sure the little guy is taken care of ", huh.
Of course maybe you'll bite down hard and refuse to or not ask for it, just to try to save face here, or find something else, or lie about it, or avoid the topic/subject entirely.
What is clear is you still have a craw up your rear where you feel everything was "arbritrary" based on "the vibe problem" you felt from the woman.
My VIBE is you're a pushy, undercover LIAR, and you deserved exactly what you got. NOTHING.
I think if you pull that sneak crap in the future, you ought to spend some time outside the shop and do your own little exit poll on the nobodies that come out, and ask them how they were treated.
That way, at least your personal rage about parts isn't all in the mix.
I am very suspicious of shops that require you to spend other money to get something that would ordinarily be available. Well, it wasn't "ordinarily available", and neither is your special tank, your ultrarare- and you made that absolutely clear. If you actually read the comments 20 for 7 against, you'd see quite a few mentioned they gave good advice to let them fix or install on their own bikes, and didn't force it into the shop.
THE REAL PROBLEM WAS, YOU'RE AN UNDERCOVER LIAR AND THE LADY SMELLED THE STINK ALL OVER YOU. SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, BUT SHE SMELLED IT.The best example is insepctions in NY
Here we go again, nice info, but DELETED, that is not what happened to you at Charlie's - more FUD and disinformation. DELETE. ok you got me.I got you the whole time, but you've been lurking around shops as the "little guy" in disguise for so long "you don't see anything wrong with it".(or maybe your whole speil was just convenient for now on this site to start your whine - and pretend to defend the little guy)
Well, I pointed out what's wrong with it, makes you a liar, the shop people smell the stink on you, you're biased by the very fact yer in evaluation mode, then add in you want parts (of course you'll just claim it's part of pretending to be nobody off the street), so
YEAH YER DARN TOOTIN I GOT YOU.
YOU GOT YERSELF IS THE IMPORTANT POINT!
THEN TOOK IT HERE IN YOUR BIG CRYBABY FEST
I said exactly my expectations when I come to a shop and how they were not met.
I know.I did not tell him what to do with this employee or how to handle it in the futureOH crap! what a load., but I did say exactly what I felt was wrong with the situation. I guess this can be construed as telling someone how to run their business in a loose sense so I will give you this one as a mulligan.
You're not giving me anything. Look in the mirror and face the truth, or keep spewing lies, whatever. I'm just pointing out, have been pointing out, what I plainly see.
I had the same expirence with my caliper pistons, but I gave them less press because at that point I could tell I was not getting anywhere with this shop.Right, you can't put everything in, but that in fact is just more irritation you covered up, that you had. The tank was convenient to mention, because you could BRAG about your ultrarare, to "put Charlie's down" - and spew how "you'd sell it", because by golly, YOU'RE BETTER THAN THEM !
It's all very clear there bub.
I didn't demand anything and I am not in the food truck business so getting someone a sandwich would not have been something I would have offered right off the bat (maybe if the conversation progressed and I felt good about the service I would have offered but it went nowhere). Yeah, you demanded they believe you about a bike you couldn't prove you owned, while you covered up your identity, which absolutely would have helped them understand you do have it and sell you the part. But YOU WERE HIDING, YOU DEMANDED THEY BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY. YOU DEMANDED MORE THAN YOU DESERVED ! PERIOD!
You demanded your questions be answered, you demanded she interupt Charlie multiple times, you demanded she not "give you vibes", you demanded "she ask your questions with more than 5 seconds time spent" and you demanded to see Charlie.
After all, your RULE is "you ask for Charlie after she was rude to you" - THAT IS OF COURSE A CLASSIC DEMAND FOR THE MANAGEMENT!
Now you can play word games, and claim you were nice about it, and that's supposed top make it OKAY, and "not a demand" - but IT IS IN FACT A DEMAND FROM YOU BECAUSE WITH IT NOT MET YOU LEAVE FOREVER AS YOU STATED IN YOUR FIRST POST !
Sorry bub, the BS doesn't fly past me. I am a customer. I was polite, I was soft spoken, I was clear about what I wanted, and I had the money to pay of it. I demanded nothing, and when I felt I was making no progress with the employee I asked to speak to the owner and got nowhere with that. After that I left. Yes, and then "YOU'LL NEVER GO BACK" spewed out in your first post, because you don't demand anything. ROFLMAO
Let me help you out - people can make demands all the time, there is another component, and that is:
WAS THEIR DEMAND MET OR REFUSED ?
Yours were refused.
You came here and posted your DEMANDS for CHANGES IN THEIR POLICIES, called them liars, said his employees didn't know anything, etc etc etc.Let me be clear about this part also. It is not my intention for charlie to lose businessYes, your heart of gold is very clear, it's shining, brilliant solid gold.
Of course there's that little problem with your first post where "you'll never go back" ( or however you worded it).
Did I ever claim you went there with intent to destroy the place ? NOPE.
Nice fruitloop lie there bub.
You sounded like Nixon, good job.
And it's not your intention anymore, because you got your golden parts email.
. It has, was and always will be my intention to help the community by allowing the customer to make an informed choice about a place. My information shows 20 GOOD, 7 bad, add you and your lies, and I'm THERE. I can hardly wait to meet the black haired woman who smelled the pushy undercover rat.I hope charlie doesn't lose one scrap of business from my complaining, but I also hope that he addresses what is recogized to be a problem with his current situation. Yeah, sure, now comes your asinine lecturing again. Why doesn't Charlie just hire you as the reworking PR firm, and you can boss him around and make certain he does things as you desire.
I would hope he is the type of person that would like to imporve his situation and customer service is an area that needs improving.Another opinion from the undercover jerk liar who couldn't wait, couldn't prove, and then went holier than thou braggo when he got back to his forum home.
After reading and seeing what you did, I hope they never change. I hope they keep kicking liar spies like you square in the crotch.
You're the one that needs to change.
Next time PROVE you own a bike, not just your word.
Next time, stay outside and do a real little survey and ask a real nobody customer how they were treated, wait a for heaper or use your common sense so it's not another rich important brat you wind up asking.
If you really are about "not being deceived by getting special treatment" -
BECAUSE AS YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T WANT SPECIAL TREATMENT, BECAUSE YOU WERE UNDER COVER , YOU LIAR...
Then you make the right kind of analysis, you ask a customer leaving how "good they are in there" or whatever beautiful acting phrases you've mastered you'd like to use. If it's so important to you, as you claim, you wait outside for your chance.
As for exposure, every little bit helpsOh boy, here we go again, onto the other side of BIG LIES. Before it was they're GOING DOWN for their crappy customer srevice, now it's "it actually HELPS !" because we spread the word how LOUSY they are! Let's see how the lying spinmaster works this one into the deceptive spiderweb
. Even this little bit of "bad exposure" is probably helping him as there may be a lurker in the bay area that didn't know about this shop and will now check it out. Ahh, of course, so you're really a big help. Good, I hope she or whomever gives you the finger next time, and spits in your face, that will be a great help to his business, as you point out. ROFLMAO The idiot tool with the societal cleche's forming exact opposites for him in his "vast spewings" on the net.
Of course you want her fired, as you said in so many words, and you still hope it happens, no doubt about it. Because you care.
So, we've learned a lot, bad customer service is good for business, because secret agent liar spread the word.
Maybe if they beat you down with a set of pipes, they'ed do even better.
Nice job, liar.
Of course he will also now know to be cautious in dealing with the staff and ask for charlie instead. It doesn't help though that by having an employee be rude to a customer it cost him more than a sale, it cost him extra exposure that you can't usually buy and that would have touched a market that he would not normally advertise in. Ahh, there we go, the bigshot spews what he won't do for him... ( PSST ! DON'T WORRY, YOU MAKE SURE THE LITTLE GUY IS TAKEN CARE OF, SO YOU CAN PRETEND TO PUT ON YOUR DISGUISE, GET YOUR PARTS WITH THE CHUMMY EMAILS NOW, AND DO YOUR DUTY AND SPREAD YOUR LOVE FOR CHARLIES ALL OVER. )
Or, maybe you'll demand the parts not to print more hate on his shop, in the general bribing fashion that the DICKs(yeah means undercover PI) use so often.
Gosh, I bet he's weeping, without your help, what will he do...
I felt I needed to point this out because, frankly it has value and he forfeited that value by hiring inept employees with little social skills.
LOL ROFLMAO ! Her social skills were on 100%, she smelled the dirty little trickster, who now EXTORTS on the net. Tell us what you're getting there bub.
COME ON, what dirty backroom deals did you force out ?You were not there. Thanks to my good luck, since you were.I was. You have no idea how nice or not nice I was. Sure I do, I see how you acted here with your first post.
Despite being a massive prick on the internet
A big fat lying con artist. Also a dirty compromised trickster at the shop.
I am actually a pretty nice person to meet in the flesh. but you don't know that either.
Oh, from whose perspective ? I understand if you aren't given the "respect" YOU DEMAND while massively disrespecting those you demand it from , you're quite the prick later, and go off on the net somewhere, STABBING THAT KNIFE IN.
So I do know plenty. The big problem is you consider respect pretty laced up words, and no doubt "vibes", so put on your phoney happy face and lying pursed lips and spew out those pretty words you say make all the difference. LOL
YOU STILL DIDN'T GET YOUR TANK AND CALIPERS, DID YOU UNDERCOVER DICK ?
(Oh, well, perhaps NOW, after the emails)
I walked into a business with the expectation that people would be professional.LOL -YOU WALKED IN AS A SPY, DEMANDED INTERRUPTIONS AND QUESTIONS, DEMANDED THEY BELIEVE JOE NO ONE ABOUT HAVING THE BIKE, THEN STORMED OUT ALREADY RAGING INSIDE.
I'm sure you kept your pretty little girlie face on, and walked dainty on your tippie toes, but the storm INSIDE was the real truth.
I was let down. You didn't get your tank and calipers. Ok, I'll write or call Charlie and tell him to just sell the crap to you, whineboy.
I don't think it is unreasonable for people running a shop that sells parts to actually sell parts and perform customer service. ROFLMAO - BUT - your prescious ultrarare will ONLY FIND A HOME WITH SOMEONE WHO REALLY NEEDS IT !
THEY DIDN'T LIKE YOU, OK ?
hahhahaI did not ask the shop to break their own rule, and I am pretty sure the "rule" as it was being communicated to me was being made up on the spot Yes, hence you raging and massive anger, it was ALLLLLL PERSONALLLL, and your imagination took it that way, yes sir ree. The rage must have been incredible. LOL(I think charlie stated it better here but this is after the fact). At least that is the impression I was getting.Ok, well I forgive you for all those vibes and impressions you pick up on. Maybe some estrogen reduction surgery or some ego deflation, or next time don't be a lying sneakling con artist, that should take care of it.I did not go anywhere undercover or as a spy or anything else alleged. I went in as a customer and left as a dissatisfied one. Oh boy, what a tool, what a lying tool. Had I been a satisfied customer I would have opened my connections to charlie, in this case I did not.
So, you spread your journalist credentials, remade contact ( as you could have and should have expected from your post here , in fact were absolutely hoping your importance made it happen, so YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP AGAIN !)
If you had single ounce of integrity and "were just a customer there", you would have kept your public piehole SHUT on the matter. that's called honesty and principles !
YOU DON'T HAVE THEM.Had I come there with journalistic intentions alone I would have called ahead and made an appointment.No you're much slicker, before, after, in between, the lies never end, so you take 3 ways to Tuesday on every angle. This was a strange shop and I wanted to see how a walk in customer gets treated (which I was). No, you wanted to play that undercover game, now you claim it's what you were doing, but you opened your BIG FAT PUBLIC PIEHOLE AND ADDED ALL YOUR NORMAL JOURNALISTIC OR INDUSTRY POWER POINTS TO IT.
You have also claimed if you were treated right this and that would have happened, so CUT THE BS ! "I WOULD HAVE AT LEAST TALKED CHARLIE INTO letting me an BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH..."
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YEAH YOU SAID SO, so CUT THE CRAP ! I guess you can somehow tell yourself something else in your noggin, but it won't fly here with me, you LIARApparently walk in customers get treated poorly. Which is all I have said from the begining. LOL - YOU'RE ONE LOSER WHO DIDN'T GET WHAT HE WANTED. YOU'RE CRAP. APPARENTLY YOU BLEW IT, MR ATTITUDE VIBER.
I came in as a customer. There was nothing sneaky about anything I did.Oh just stop your incessant lying. They get a big help exposure and deal from you if they "treat you right" if they don't - you don't help, you said so yourself. SO NOW YOU CAN LIE LIKE A PIG, OVER AND OVER AND OVER DENYING YOUR VERY OWN WORDS !
I asked about parts, I had intention to buy. If I got good customer service I was going to tell others, if I got bad customer service I was going to tell others. It is basically what any cutomer is to any business. The fact that I could do more than the average customer does not mean I should get treated as such.
Oh get off your fruit loop stand. You can do more than me here, and will no doubt be treated better no matter what, is that unfair ? What the hell are you going to do about it? The higher yer G*DA** post numbers are and the more mod or admin lines by your name, the BETTER THE TREATMENT, PRIVLeDGES, AND RULE BREAKING ABILITIES, PERIOD! it's like that all over you FRUITLOOP.
Now what is your INSANE jerkoff undercover crap going to do anyway ? NOTHING, because now he knows what a bigshot you are, and you're getting the A1 treatment PERIOD, because you opened your big fat piehole here, AND MADE IT HAPPEN!
So, instead of being for real, and keeping your little yap shut, BEING MAN ENOUGH TO CHALK IT UP AND NOT BREAK YOUR COVER, you just HAD to blow it all over, and use all the power of mentioning your connections to do so, HOOKING IN THE BUSINESS in question WITH THE POWERFUL CONNECTIONS YOU PARADED ABOUT AS LEVERAGE PUBLICLY!
Don't try to snowball me mister.
Furthermore the young man who went there on his bike on an adventure posted, one of your members here, and he got A1 treatment. As it stands I have done nothing more than the average modern bike shop customer with an internet connection would doBUT ALSO AS IT STANDS YOU MADE LARGE THREATS ABOUT YOUR CONNECTIONS AND ABILITIES TO "BRING IN THE BACON FOR CHARLIE!"
As I just pointed out, and have been over and over, you CANNOT get away from who you are, you FRUITLOOP, unless you keep your big fat piehole SHUT - and that means shut about your little problem at Charlie's, you could have called him from your home phone, wrote a letter whatever... but kept it private.
But you want the undercover sting, AND THE PUBLIC PROCLAMATIONS OF YOUR FINDINGS AS YOU SPEW FORTH YOUR CONNECTIONS.
You also want to claim " I did nothing wrong" and "I am one person, but I am EVERYMAN off the street."
ROFLMAO
. I was not there to dig up any dirt, contrary to what ever conspiracy theories you are concocting. Sorry bucko, you already stated your policy, you get treated right, you give the card and promote and scoop, you don't THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN!
This is business at a motorcycle shop, not who shot JFK or was the moon landing fake. I am not an investigative reporter, I am a dood with a bunch of bikes who occasionally writes stories about road trips, events, and cool mc stuff. Oh, now some HUMILITY, when all other angles and lies have miserably failed, big shot comes off his promo-cart wheels, his VJMC master works brag, and now "he's just a dude".I was not talking to a "secretary". LOL - I don't know the position of the person I was talking to LOLWho cares bub she was a ***** according to you.
Either way she was presented as the "face" of the shop, ie the person who greets people when the come to the door. I didn't pretend anything.
So now were back to all your lies then in your first two posts. You don't have any pull, you can't do anything for him or his business, you aren't a promoter, blah blah blah blah, you don't write articles because you care about old bikes and have the open spot preserved to write artciles because of it...." I didn't reveal my identity because i wanted to see how they treat the guy off the street, not someone in theindustry, albiet the fringe of the industry"...
Verbaitum I was told a part was not going to be sold to me after I was told it was for sale. YOU FAILED TO PROVE YOU OWNED THE BIKE.I was also told that other parts were not going to available to me. The general impression I got was that they were not interested in making a sale or small talk about the shop, or bikes, or really anything (including the weather). I was made to feel like I was a nusance and I should go away, and when you do that to customers eventually one will speak up.I see, she interrupted Charlie how many times, and he pointed out it was his what $60,00, $80.00, $150.00 / hour webmaster he was with...
Wow, you sure want the stars in heaven the moment you drop in.
Well I hope all your whining and importance and pull gets you the gastank and the calipers. Let us know how that works out.
Once again, In this situation I don't get to make any money. And I don't spy as I don't have any intention to do harm to someone when I go in his place.
Your claimed intent and what you did are two different things, huh.
Doesn't matter how many times you deny it, it's what you did, and then you came here and moved to DAMAGE, and it was the level of a threat so powerful, that CHARLIE HIMSELF SHOWED UP HERE.
So "just a dude", whatever your intent is, you just keep patting yourself on the back, I'm ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you are telling yourself you're a big HERO, and by golly Charlie is going to change his customer service model.
Oh, you've made so many people future customers happy, and the world a better place.
NO DOUBT THAT'S WHAT NODS YOU OFF TO SLEEP.I think you have the wrong idea Well, you just keep thinking that. And I'll just keep absolutely knowing you are exactly what I said you are, period. That someone like you has shown with your twisted actions, damage control is required directly from the business. I'm sure a few of the lies here and setting the record straight was PART of the reason Charlie showed, but let's face it, you got action. and really have picked up the fantasy ball and ran with it.
NO, you just want it in your pretty "respectful words" version, the WAY YOU DEMAND TO BE TREATED, all wrapped up in your rage and importance with a nice candy coating, like all your little regular minions did for you.
HERE LET ME GIVE YOU A GOOD VERSION, YOU COULD HAVE HONESTLY POSTED. Please ignore my poor skills emulating your masterous writing craft, since lies won't be flagrantly interspersed.
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I was down in San Fran and stopped into Charlie's, and was disappointed I didn't get my parts. They had a tank I really wanted for one of my getting cherry bikes, but I had no proof I was a collector and had the correct bike for the tank, so I couldn't buy it.
I hate it when the anal tendencies of all of us with parts for restoring these beauties hits me square in the chops.
Next time I'll carry my bike w/plate pics and some scans of my current registrations when I'm traveling, and make sure I have a lax schedule or more patience, in case I have to wait for my desired "visit time" with the shop owner.
I really wanted to spend some time talking to Charlie, too, because he's got a shop we'd all love to own, and it's gotta be great to be an enthusiast and be in that position, and I had some questions for him that even my extensive expertise on these bikes hadn't found the answers to yet.
But he was in a meeting, and my interruptions kept frustrating his asssistant, who had to go bother him everytime I had another query, I guess I was excited like a kid in a candy store especially when I saw that tank.
But I left angry as hell, since I caught them at a bad time and the wife and I were thousands of miles from home on our trip, so it wasn't convenient to go back considering our trip schedule.
I know shops like this can and do bend and break policy rules anytime they want, I guess I didn't have "the right stuff" that day, and I was pissed the woman assistant didn't seem to believe me, I kind of lost it and blurted out there was no way for me to get the tank since I live in New York. Maybe I should have been more tactful.
I own 20 of these bikes, so it was a real disappointment I couldn't greedily snap up more upgrades.
My wife heard the choice words when we left, I waited till we were outside. I was not there with the primary mission to ruin someones business as you allege.I NEVER alleged that YOU LIAR. I said you went there knowing full well your little personal peeve about "treating the little guy right" as you said, and YOU TESTIFIED, that if things aren't right you don't promote and don't write up, and you made CERTAIN everyone understood it was a LOSS FOR THE SHOP here on the board, when you posted it.
I'll remind you AGAIN, your final line was something like "after that treatment I'll never go there, ever again".
AND YOU SPREAD THAT HERE PUBLICLY, and expounded upon how you COULD HAVE HELPED CHARLIE'S BUT NOW WILL NOT, and if that isn't destructive, what is ? You obviously have some deep seated issues with the media and people that work in it which are causing you to read mountains into the mole hill that this is. Yeah, no problem with media people, just YOU BUB, and your LIES.
"I didn't reveal my identity because I wanted to see how they treat the little guy"
" I never went there under cover "
"I was only a customer"
" He never knows who it really is walking in off the street ."
SHALL I GO ON ?
IT SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY.
Really it was a small transaction at a shop that went bad. YEAHHHHHHHH ! YEHHAAA~ FINALLY THE TRUTH ! WHOO HOOOOOOOOO ! I didn't get screwed, but I did feel insulted. YEEEHAAAWW! HE TOLD THE TRUTH AGAIN , FINALLY !The person behind the counter (actually it was a podium) didn't know me from adam Well, according to you, that was your plan, you piece of crap. Although for you, I can understand how you feel "they should know who you are!"
and presumably this is how they treat all walk ups. No, that's how they treated you, you piece of crap. You interrupted his important meeting, repeatedly. You wanted questions answered because you were out on vacation on your hobby and your life (750s) and you are mr 20 hondas so they had better kiss your *** wether they know who you are or not, you wanted a tank without proof of your bike, you wanted, you wanted, you wanted, you wanted good vibrations.And now it seems you're going to get what you really wanted, because "the email was great".Ultra rare? no. we coverd this. Yeah, we covered it all right, your ultrarare tank, you know, the one in your basement that whips the #$%* out of the one at charlie's you wanted, that you're willing to sell, if you had a shop, and someone really needed it, yeah that one - master of BULL#$%* !
