Author Topic: Where to get Case guards? (Read 9184 times)

CycleRanger · « **on:** September 15, 2009, 08:52:14 PM »

Does anyone have any ideas where I could get some case guards (or crash bars) like these or something similarly diminutive?

myhondas · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:03:04 PM »

ebay and craigs list are high on the short list

JBMorse · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:09:19 PM »

If you're looking for a 750, denniskirk has them: http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=Main&catId=&productId=p50575&leafCatId=&mmyId=7716

I've seen similar guards on ebay as well. I think there are a couple of different styles of these smaller, non-crash bar type.

scottgarland · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:26:54 PM »

I got a set of those about six months ago. Left side fit just fine, I had to do some remodling for the right side to fit properly. Had to cut bar and reposition mounting tab to get a good fit. I took only an hour or less of work but I thought for the money they should have fit dead on. My bike is a K0, so maybe other modles will fit better.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:01:02 AM »

Yamiya carries a variety of case guards. None are quite like the pic you posted tho.

http://www.yamiya750e.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=40_114&sort=20a&page=1

mystic_1

CycleRanger · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:30:29 PM »

Excellent tip, thanks!

Yeah, I've never seen any bars exactly like those either but I like the look.
I guess they could be custom or modified.

MoTo-BunnY · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2009, 10:41:51 PM »

Cycle X has the two point types, like this, for $60

http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Cafe%20Page.htm
(about 2/3 of the way down the very cluttered page. .lol)

I have the ones like these, that I got off of eBay two years ago for only $40 - I really scored because they seem to have really climbed in price (on feeBay at least) since then.

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 18, 2009, 03:34:25 AM »

Points cover is about $30. Alternator cover is about $110, new from Honda.

I rather ride without the guards and replace the damaged parts in case I fall -and live to tell the story-

Hope not to offend anybody, but engines guards are for me like people who put his tie over his shoulder or, worst yet, inside his shirt, at lunchtime, to avoid the tie getting stained. It is like yelling "hey, look at me, I can't eat without staining myself". I rather pay drycleaning than putting my tie over my shoulder, and the same goes with engine guards: "hey, my bike is very valuable and I'm not confident enough in my riding skill".

Just my two cents. As I said, I didn't pretend to offend anybody. You can even think about it in economical terms: you have 100% chances of spending $100 -case guards- to cover up, say, a 50% chances of having to replace one of either the points cover -$30- or the alt cover -$110-. In any case, the economically wise decision is not to buy case guards.

MCRider · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:36:28 AM »

Quote from: Raul CB750K1 on September 18, 2009, 03:34:25 AM

Points cover is about $30. Alternator cover is about $110, new from Honda.

I rather ride without the guards and replace the damaged parts in case I fall -and live to tell the story-

Hope not to offend anybody, but engines guards are for me like people who put his tie over his shoulder or, worst yet, inside his shirt, at lunchtime, to avoid the tie getting stained. It is like yelling "hey, look at me, I can't eat without staining myself". I rather pay drycleaning than putting my tie over my shoulder, and the same goes with engine guards: "hey, my bike is very valuable and I'm not confident enough in my riding skill".

Just my two cents. As I said, I didn't pretend to offend anybody. You can even think about it in economical terms: you have 100% chances of spending $100 -case guards- to cover up, say, a 50% chances of having to replace one of either the points cover -$30- or the alt cover -$110-. In any case, the economically wise decision is not to buy case guards.

Sentiment noted. I'd rather run without, for looks reasons, but on a semi-touring bike...

As a practical matter, if you've ever tipped over and 1. poked a hole in your Dyno cover, or 2. pushed the tin of the points cover into the points, while on a ride away from anywhere, you'll understand the allure of the guards. its the difference between getting home or being stranded. Happened to me several times.

Tipping over is not a matter of if but when. Its often not a matter of skill, but of bad judgement from fatigue on a trip, or someone else or some thing else, in traffic making you do something you otherwise would not have.

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:07:56 AM »

As you say, for touring they may very well become useful, as a windscreen or panniers. When you tour with your bike, looks, like personal higyene, come down in the priority list... :-)

I use my bikes for commuting and short haul trips, and for that reason I have never installed case guards. Hey, if you get stranded for a bent points plate, you can also get stranded for a flat tire, and people doesn't think about carrying an spare tire, and I feel that the chances of having a flat tire are higher than the chances of tipping your bike....

It all depends in how many chances you can get. When I take corners I know that if I skid the bike, an expensive part of my bike is going to be replaced -and hopefully the damage list ends there-, so I don't get over-confident. I feel that having crash guard would give me a false feeling of safety.

andy750 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:21:52 AM »

I love my giant crash guard

Dont worry Raul I am not offended

I hope you had a good summer!

cheers
Andy

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2009, 10:42:07 AM »

Andy, your bike may very well be the most travelled CB750 on the planet!

I indeed have crash bars exactly like yours Andy, and also have a reack rack like yours. They came with the bike but removing both of them was the first thing I did, even before starting the tune up!

MoTo-BunnY · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2009, 03:01:57 PM »

I personally think the guards look pretty cool and are smart/cheap insurance for your engine. I doubt a good slide across asphalt is going to ONLY mar the cover if there aren't engine guards on the bike and that being "economically wise" part is pretty silly - my guards were only $40 and to think a dumped bike damage would be less than that without them, is a pretty tall claim.

I'm plenty confident in my riding skill but I have had a couple of close calls because of OTHER drivers and if I ever do crash, I'll let the guards take the hit over the engine, thank you very much.

Just curious in that since you are so confident in your riding skill, I'm curious if you don't wear a helmet or riding leathers, either?

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:20:34 PM »

Quote from: MoTo-BunnY on September 18, 2009, 03:01:57 PM

Just curious in that since you are so confident in your riding skill, I'm curious if you don't wear a helmet or riding leathers, either?

Well, that's a different story. Case guards and engine sidecovers can be replaced with money. Skin and brain not.

I haven't said I'm confident in my riding skills. I have said that using case guards seems to send the message that you don't have confidence in your riding skills, and it doesn't necesarilly imply that if you don't use case guards is because you are confident.

To each his own, I said I didn't want to offend anybody and, after all, it is just a personal matter. I know that, case guards or not, I will outlive my bike. If I die for reasons outside biking, then my sons will inherit a pretty cool bike. If I die in a crash with my bike, how much damage the engine suffers will be the smaller of my problems. If I crash my bike and I survive, chances are the damage done to the frame and the rest of the bike will be higher than the cost of another bike. If I drop my bike, I would be more concerned to protect the tank and sidecovers than the engine, just have a look at the price of either on eBay....

I love my bike but it is just an object. I expect it to last as long as possible but I won't have it on a display. I use it and using it wears it and puts it in danger everytime you hit the road. If you suffer for what could happen to your bike someday you will be scared to ride it.

MoTo-BunnY · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:57:56 PM »

I really don't think using case guards sends the message to (most) folks that I am not confident in my riding abilities or that I am too afraid to ride or scratch my bike up, at all. I have actually had many compliments on them, by both cycle riders and non-cycle riders, and asked where to get them. I also see plenty of people use crash guards of various types - so, to each their own, just as some people use ape hangers or open pipes but I don't care for them.

Plenty of people also ride with a minimal skull cap helmet plus shorts and flip flops - personally, I use a full face helmet and leathers all the time. Maybe they think I'm "not confident in my skills" or something but whatever, I could care less and I could just as easily label them as "future organ donor". .. . . seeing some of the total inattentive morons driving in huge SUVs and I will drive defensively and wear the extra gear. It's not my driving it's others that concerns me.

I ride almost every day - my cycle is my daily driver all year long rain or shine, and I am most definitely not afraid of scratching it up or something - it's soooo not a show queen. I don't have a full external roll cage on the bike (lol) just some $40 crash guards that aren't even really that noticeable.

Not offended by your comments per se - just curious to why you felt the need to express your opinion in that manner. I'm sure there are things you have done to your bike(s) that others would do differently, too, but personally I wouldn't label your choices as "sending the message that you question your own riding skill" or "afraid to scratch your bike up" etc. or compare them to looking like a dork eating lunch with his tie over his shoulder? (do some guys really DO that??? lol)

Gears · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:23:39 PM »

mystic_1, thanks for the link. I've never seen the Yamiya site before and its great!

BobbyR · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:47:36 PM »

I have case guards, and having been tipped over twice, they are worth the money. I never wear a tie either.

CycleRanger · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:12:08 PM »

Wholly Kow!

I wasn't trying to start anything with my question! $:-\$

Honestly, I'd rather not have them either but I've been riding long enough to know that eventually, one way or another, they will hit the ground.
And I did think that ones in that photo looked kinda neat.

Actually, I wasn't aware that new covers could be had from Honda.
I just got my 750 a few months ago and it's the oldest bike I've ever owned so I'm still learning just what parts are still available from Honda.

Thanks for everyone's input and opinions.

MCRider · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:33:47 PM »

Quote from: CycleRanger on September 18, 2009, 08:12:08 PM

Wholly Kow!

I wasn't trying to start anything with my question! $:-\$

Honestly, I'd rather not have them either but I've been riding long enough to know that eventually, one way or another, they will hit the ground.
And I did think that ones in that photo looked kinda neat.

Actually, I wasn't aware that new covers could be had from Honda.
I just got my 750 a few months ago and it's the oldest bike I've ever owned so I'm still learning just what parts are still available from Honda.

Thanks for everyone's input and opinions.

Dyno covers are still availale OEM I think, but they are very expensive, $150+ I think.

Polishable used ones can be had for less than $50. I have a couple.

But the real reason for the guards is to get you home from an unexpected tip. I've seen a CB750 parked on the side of the road (rider was taking a photo op) get blown over by a passing car, and slide a little bit, putting a hole in the Dyno cover. Pure accident, End of ride.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:32:08 PM »

Case guards also make a convenient place to mount forward pegs for highway riding, if you like that sort of thing.

mystic_1

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:07:57 AM »

Moto-Bunny, let me try to explain my point with another example.

I bought a pre-paid phone a few years ago. It was someting like 30 euro with 50 euro prepaid. That is, I paid less for the phone and paid calls than the value of the calls.

Few days later I wanted to buy a cover for the phone. It was 10 euro. What? Sorry, I'm not paying just for the plastic cover a third of what I paid for the phone+calls. I rather use the phone and buy another one with the price of three covers, and will get 50 euro more in phone calls.

Case guards are "cheap" insurance if they are cheap. If their price is close to what they protect, then there is no point in using them unless it is to avoid being stranded for a spilling alternator cover or bent points cover. Courier rides here use guards, they can't afford not to work one day for having to repair their bikes, but their bikes are workhorses and looks is secondary.

Sure thing, there are cheap case guards, but I bet they bent like spaguetti under the weight of a CB750, much more if the bike was in motion before the fall, and between damaging the frame or damaging an engine cover, I rather have the latter.

We are sending a message with everything we do. From what we say to what we write, what we wear, what we ride and how we ride it. People who wear a brain cap are also sending a message. They prefer to get the expected result of the image they send than get the protection of a full-face helmet. You say you don't care for what others think. If I would think that case guards are worth for me what they cost, I would use them without worries. As that is not the case I don't use them, and as I have seen many newbies taking their bikes out of the showroom with the case guards fitted for fear of damaging their new bikes, I don't like to be taken as one, is that simple. Not that I have anything against newbies, I have been one myself. We could go on and on on why some people think that wearing chaps looks gay, and we will have chap-wearing people saying they don't give a damn. You like chaps and think they offer protection, people tells you look gay with them, you don't give a damn and wear chaps, end of the story. The same goes with case guards.

I have a curious picture about case guards, as soon as I find it I will post it.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 19, 2009, 07:46:58 AM »

Raúl,

First, I think you care way too much about what people think when they look at you.

Second, your financial arguement assumes that the covers are the only thing that will be damaged, when really the following can also be damaged:

Points side:

Points cover, advancer, advancer shaft, points, condensors, points plate, crankshaft, crankcase.

Alternator side:

Alternator cover, field coil, stator coil, alternator rotor, crankshaft, crankcase.

In either case you're also risking damage to the crank journals, bearings, and rods dependin on how severe the impact is, whether the engine is running at the time, and so forth.

Of course, all of this assumes that the case guards you're using are strong enough to actually protect the bike in a tip over. Two-point case guards generally aren't.

Then again, some people use case guards for reasons other than protection.

mystic_1

Hinomaru · « **Reply #22 on:** September 19, 2009, 09:58:36 AM »

Quote from: CycleRanger on September 15, 2009, 08:52:14 PM

Does anyone have any ideas where I could get some case guards (or crash bars) like these or something similarly diminutive?

CycleRanger, The case guards in your picture look like the ones that David Silver Spares (located in the UK) carries:

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/parts/part_29399/

mystic_1 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:05:47 PM »

Those are very nice, that's a good price too.

mystic_1

Edit: Just noticed that the cross-bracing underneath those is all hollow, half-section tubing. Slightly less impressed but still think they look nice.

-m

coyotecowboy · « **Reply #24 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:04:28 PM »

Did anyone happen to notice the price on the Yamiya case guards?

Just a lil' under $300 USD.

They better have someone come to install them for that price

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Author Topic: Where to get Case guards? (Read 9184 times)

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