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Offline Don R

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Re: I've been K0'd twice, Fun with K0's.
« Reply #400 on: March 20, 2017, 10:11:36 PM »
 Correct, the R7 is a casting number not a grind. I have 3 early engines in the shop, I put the best parts on a sandcast motor, I was hoping to find a low R number but it's not a huge deal. I'm not sure that an R6 or R7 wouldn't be correct. And it's inside anyway.

 I'm using the best parts of the other 2 for a diecast engine for either a 10,000 era serial number bike I don't own yet or my 14,100 bike.
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Re: I've been K0'd twice, Fun with K0's.
« Reply #401 on: March 22, 2017, 09:48:06 PM »
 I'll be getting the racecar trailer out of storage this week so I'll have the K0 hot rod back home again. The next time the checkbook will allow it I'm going to paint the K0 tins for it.
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Re: I've been K0'd twice, Fun with K0's.
« Reply #402 on: March 31, 2017, 10:16:29 PM »
 I found a sandcast looking mirror on ebay cheap enough I finally bought one. I'm not sure about the stem being welded on the top, but it has the two stampings on the back, acorn nut long swivel, nice mirror and it polished up pretty good. The 69 has new original looking Honda mirrors but they lack the trademark logo.
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Re: I've been K0'd twice, Fun with K0's.
« Reply #403 on: April 05, 2017, 04:13:49 PM »
My first attempt at removing the clutch cover's 10th bolt hole for a 9 hole sandcast engine.



 It got a little porosity on the outside and I rounded the corner too much but all in all it's not too bad.
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Nice job! Cliff.

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 Thanks Cliff. The next one welded up nicely on the corner, but the other PO induced damage didn't weld as well. They removed most of the screws with a zip wheel. The hard way.
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 Received negatively on the sandcast page, I guess I should have kept my mouth shut and tried to pass it off as real. Oh well.
 
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 Thanks Larry. I was kind of proud of it. I see it as just another reproduction part. There are guys making thin lip dyno covers from later ones and new repro no crimp line brake lines.
 My new Yamiya red seat foam makes a crumbling seat look new, I fail to see the difference except I didn't pay someone big bucks for this one.
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I think they mainly dont want to water down the value of their bikes, and see fakes being passed off as real.
Also giving guys ideas may lead to more fakes.
 Just stamp the inside K2 cover. Or when you weld insert short  plug and weld only outside, then you can clearly see the mod with the cover off.
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  I could write a book about this but       ;')

 And I will stamp it inside or on the bottom.
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Don, I'm going to give you same reply I gave you on the SOOC. If you don't try to sell me that part as a genuine, original correct part then you haven't done anything wrong. If I didn't have and couldn't get a 9-holer for #97 would I run a modified 10-holer? Damn right I would. Especially if you did the work. Nice work Don. BTW, I wouldn't stamp it.
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 Thanks Mark. I'm usually not so thin skinned but I was a little too proud of what I accomplished. It's really not a big deal, I'm over it, there's even a genuine Honda  9 hole gasket on the way. For the few $$ it cost, buying it is easier than making one. 
  I recently made a pan gasket for 5511. It's surprising how different the oil pan is, you'd never know it seeing all of the "sandcast pans" on ebay. Someone will be disappointed if they've never seen one off the engine and buy one.
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You're not going to run that homemade gasket are you?  ;) :D :D :D

That's true about the sandcast pan. I got lucky a few years back and bought 6 gaskets from a guy.
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 It's funny, 5511 still has chrome on the 9 hole clutch cover and rocker cover. I know it shouldn't be chromed but it's something the PO did because he loved that bike. As long as it looks good I won't strip it. And I just used my spare sandcast rocker cover on E2695. I bought that one in case the 5511's engine was ever out, I could swap it over.
 The PO smoked non stop and had a lighter on the handlebar clamp. I might put it back on to power my phone. lol.
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 Yup, I got it pretty bad.
  The Hot Rod bike that I once decided didn't need to be restored or original, has a 1970 no number engine waiting in the wings and now a NOS speedometer. The down side is I don't have a tach to match it. It's got K1 parts on it now. HA!
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Re: I've been K0'd twice, found a K0 speedo for the 70, now I need a tach.lol.
« Reply #416 on: September 07, 2017, 03:07:57 PM »
 OK, I'm back on the 70 Diecast. I sold my brown 71, a garage find 75 and a few parts bikes and now it's time to do the Diecast. I have a no number 1970 replacement engine case for it and that will get built in time but for now I really want to get the paint done.

 I found my own paint code post since I lost the formula from the color camera. Duh.
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Re: I've been K0'd twice, found a K0 speedo for the 70, now I need a tach.lol.
« Reply #417 on: September 10, 2017, 06:16:37 PM »
 A local on this site sold me a K0 tach hopefully I can rebuild it to match my nos speedometer. That leaves me with six to eight K1 gauges no longer needed, 4 are apart,  I sold the k1 with the needle laying in the bottom of the speedo.

 
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 I've been looking for any tutorial on taking the K0 gauges apart, I may be the pioneer at least for documenting their repair.

 I sold my 71 and now have K0 gauges for the 70 so I'll have a few K1 gauges left over. I may proceed with repair and pass them along here although I got K0 faces for them.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/SortdnmtlacAReco1

 The Red Sandcast has a new seat foam and the black one has a repro ducktail seat since this picture. I need to take a more recent pic. The black one has a complete set of tins ready to go to paint for candy blue green. Finally.
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 Using heat to remove the clear lens isn't a viable option, Someone posted a mill tool in a drill press was the only thing that worked for him. The cheap ass in me would love to save the plastic case and I have one extra lens but it appears I'll need to sacrifice the case to get it apart and use up a new one. The new faceplate won't fit through the lens hole anyway, so it's decided. Destroy the plastic part and use a new one.
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After searching for hours I found this link on Marcel's site

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=84552.msg1008726#msg1008726
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 I certainly went the long way around on this one. I had a wrecked K0 gauge apart once and remembered it differently. Maybe there were two different assemblies. I'll at least post links to the pics.
 The plastic cover comes off all the way to the bottom then the new cover goes over the metal base, I was convinced it went inside from the flange down. L0L!
 The gauge face sets I have are both k1 so I ordered a set of K0 online.
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Re: I've been K0'd twice, found a K0 speedo for the 70, repairing plastic gauges!
« Reply #424 on: September 25, 2017, 02:08:08 AM »
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cwey1UHyXf5oMKqY2

 This is a k1 case with a cut down K0 plastic top sitting on it. The top was wrecked and then melted when I tried heat to remove the lens but the concept is sound.
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