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another of our governors fabulous foibles
« on: October 01, 2009, 12:27:18 PM »
http://www.thestate.com/local/story/965644.html




Gov. Mark Sanford has asked the South Carolina Supreme Court to block a state ethics panel investigating the governor from releasing its initial findings to lawmakers who could decide to remove him from office.

Sanford, who vowed to fight "tooth and nail" any effort to remove him from office, argues that releasing the report to lawmakers could be used for political purposes and could compromise his defense.

Sanford argues that only prosecutorial bodies can gain access to the State Ethics Commission's preliminary report, which is akin to an indictment and does not contain the governor's full defense.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford apologizes to his Cabinet members during a meeting in Columbia, SC on Fri. June 26, 2009. This was Sanford's first official public business conducted since confessing to an extramarital affair with a woman from Argentina.

- Erik Campos/ecampos@thestate.com /Erik Campos

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    * PDF: Court filings by Gov. Mark Sanford
    * PDF: Court filings by Gov. Mark Sanford
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      Case against Sanford

      The State Ethics Commission is investigating Gov. Mark Sanford's travel and expenses. Meanwhile, state lawmakers are expected to mount an impeachment case against him. Here is what both will be reviewing.

      Sanford's secret trip to Argentina. The married Republican governor left the state for Argentina for five days while his staff, the lieutenant governor and his security team did not know where he was. Some lawmakers argue Sanford abandoned the state and job; that, they say, is misconduct serious enough to warrant impeachment.

      Misuse of state airplanes. State law bars any use of state planes other than for official business. Sanford, according to state documents, used a state plane to ferry family members and to attend political functions, possible violations of state law.

      Using expensive airfares on foreign trips. State law requires the use of the most economical travel available. Sanford used more expensive airfare, according to state documents.

      Failure to disclose private plane trips. The Associated Press reported Sanford accepted 35 rides on private planes that he did not disclose in his state ethics report, a possible violation of state law. Questions have since arisen about whether Sanford should have paid federal taxes on those plane trips.

The Ethics Commission maintains that the S.C. House would become a prosecutor, and therefore entitled to the report, if it opens impeachment proceedings against Sanford.

Sanford has been under scrutiny since returning from a secret five-day trip to Argentina in June and admitting to an extramarital affair with a woman who lives there.

Attorney General Henry McMaster asked the Ethics Commission to review Sanford's use of state and private planes, his purchase of business-class airfare and his use of campaign funds.

In the court filing, Sanford attorney Butch Bowers argued that a secret investigation protects its results.

"In addition to preempting misuse, proceeding in confidence prevents the Commission from being subject to undue outside pressures in its decision-making process, precludes tampering with witnesses and evidence and encourages people with relevant information to speak freely," Sanford's court filing says. "All of these safeguards are put at risk if the confidence of an ethics investigation is jeopardized.

"If the Ethics Commission does not abide by the law and impeachment ensues, the public may very well view the process as a kangaroo court in action."

Sanford asks the S.C. Supreme Court to block to report's release or to ask the nine-member Ethics Commission to decide the matter before the report is released. He had asked the commissioners to decide the matter, but was told the report would be finished before the commissioners could meet to vote on its release.

The filing also asks that the S.C. Supreme Court makes its decision as quickly as possible.

Ethics Commission executive director Herb Hayden said this is the first time the agency has investigated a governor and welcomed the state's highest court settling the issue.

"The question needs to be answered," Hayden said. "This is just speeding up the process, getting it to the top instead of starting it at the bottom."

The court filing is the latest effort in Sanford's attempt to fend off calls for his removal. The governor's office has spent time investigating the use of state planes by universities and past administrations. Sanford also has laid out his defense in e-mails to supporters as well as at civic meetings across the state.

In August, Sanford agreed to waive confidentiality surrounding the investigation in the "spirit of a fair and transparent process." But his waiver only allowed the Ethics Commission to acknowledge the investigation and its scope. Sanford also can allow a public hearing for testimony and evidence in his defense, but has yet to do so.

Sen. Larry Martin, R-Pickens and a Sanford critic, thinks the Ethics Commission is correct in concluding the House is entitled to the preliminary report.

"There is absolutely no question that the commission would be abiding by not only the letter but the intent of the law," Martin said.

Martin thinks Sanford is trying to delay the Ethics Commission probe.

"I think he's trying to buy time to force us into the legislative session," he said, acknowledging that the public might be less willing to support impeachment the longer the case wears on.

Rep. Greg Delleney, R-Chester, said he is still preparing an impeachment resolution and does not need the Ethics Commission report.

"Impeachment is not a legal proceeding; impeachment is a political proceeding," Delleney said. "We don't need the courts at all. We're totally autonomous."

Delleney said Sanford committed "serious misconduct" - a constitutional standard for impeachment in South Carolina - when he left the state for five days, slipped his security and lied to staff about where he was.

"There's not anyone in the private sector or military that would keep their job," if they did what Sanford did, Delleney said.
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Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat.
Mark Twain - Notebook, 1894

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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 12:55:43 PM »


Wonder if he's related to Goblowthe#$%*, the former Governor of Illinois?? ;D ;D





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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 03:10:35 PM »
Well he got laid, in Florida, by his soul mate this last weekend.


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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 03:58:49 PM »


Wonder if he's related to Goblowthe#$%*, the former Governor of Illinois?? ;D ;D


I was wondering the same damn thing, no worries though, the 'commander in chief' will call off the investigation, he can do that now.   :-\

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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 04:03:57 PM »
and to think he was in line for the republican nomination for president
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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 05:49:29 PM »
and to think he was in line for the republican nomination for president

thank god he did something stupid before he could possibly be elected president......if you could see the state of the state you'd understand my relief. i live 6 or 7 miles from his official residence and place of work and it is the worst place i ever lived. and i lived in East Longmeadow Mass.
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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 06:39:20 PM »
...and i lived in East Longmeadow Mass.

heh-heh! :D

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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2010, 08:50:08 PM »
I always applaude public servants that were actual people first. For instance, Bill Clinton had the choice of MAYBE doing his buttassugly wife or a cute FAT chick under the desk! What kind of choice is that short of giving up! Wouldn't this make them a REAL person thus qualifying them even more?! Too much sacrimonious BS today!! Why should they be any different. The news media needs to stay in their own damned bedroom before judgement. Perhaps jealosy because they get none!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2010, 10:52:32 PM »
I did see he had a little get together in Florida with the lady.  I guess in his defense you can say that it seems he does love her and it's not like bimbo of the week.  He just needs to leave office and get on with his life with her.  They could double date with John Edwards and Rielle Hunter. ;D

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 11:00:59 PM »
a cute FAT chick under the desk!

You know what a cute fat chick and a moped have in common?  They are both fun to ride but you don't want to have your friends see you doing it. ;D

I apologise to all fat chicks out there.  It's all in jest. :D

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 10:38:02 AM »
a cute FAT chick under the desk!

You know what a cute fat chick and a moped have in common?  They are both fun to ride but you don't want to have your friends see you doing it. ;D

I apologise to all fat chicks out there.  It's all in jest. :D

They come in handy right before the bar is closing, they're still around by themselves with a drink, and you're left with all the culls. You don't have to pay for drinks all night either  ;D Tell them you're going to the rest room and you'll be right out. That way no one sees you leave with them  8)
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 04:56:05 PM »
Oh no Bucky...it's happening again.  Nikki Haley ruining in the Republican primary for governor of South Carolina has been accused of having an affair and she does not sound convincing in her denials.  Is it the curse of Mark Sanford?   ;D

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2010, 05:21:30 PM »
Nikki Haley scares the living #$%* out of me, worse than Reagan did when he was president. when a candidate says theyre "pro family" it usually means against rights for gay couples and such, she's rabidly pro life too, no exceptions. i hate to say it but i havent a clue as to who i want as governor, theyre ALL pretty bad.
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Re: another of our governors fabulous foibles
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2010, 08:52:08 PM »
Nikki Haley scares the living #$%* out of me, worse than Reagan did when he was president. when a candidate says theyre "pro family" it usually means against rights for gay couples and such, she's rabidly pro life too, no exceptions. i hate to say it but i havent a clue as to who i want as governor, theyre ALL pretty bad.

I refer to this type as pro-birth not pro-life.  Once the child is born they don't give a damn as they are usually against spending on early childhood programs.  They are generally pro death penalty and seem to be some of the more rabid supporters of military adventurism in third world countries.