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Offline dilbone

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New seat on an old pan...fun project
« on: October 01, 2009, 08:08:03 pm »
When I picked up my '75 cb550 this summer it came with a king/queen seat on it, but the PO had the original stock seat still at his parent's place.  Needless to say as soon as I got the stock seat I changed them out in short order.
I'm not really into the cafe or bobber conversions(they look great, just not for me) but I got to thinking about wanting to make a lower profile seat and thought that old pan would be a good starting point.
Here's what I started with:






Then I picked up one of these, which I had heard of someone using on this site

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 08:35:35 pm »
Anticlimactic.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 08:42:06 pm »
Anticlimactic.
lol my thoughts exactly must be a work in progress
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 08:46:01 pm »
Maybe he's at yoga class?
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 03:21:09 am »
I used a wire wheel to knock down that rust and at least get down to a usable surface.
The nuts and bolts for attaching the hinge and lock had to be replaced, so I used my not very good welding skills to slop those on.


Then I brushed on some old rust converter I had...don't know if actually does anything but thought I'd try it.

I sat the pan on the foam and traced it to get a starting point for the first layer of foam.  Then I used double side carpet tape on the pan to attach the foam.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 03:33:05 am »
used 3M spray adhesive to attach layer two, then it was onto the vinyl...


Picked up 2/3 yard vinyl from Joann Fabrics for like 6.50.  Traced the bottom of the pan again for a starting point, then realized I didn't leave enough for the seam around the outside edge so I tried it again.


I tried to turn the seat on it's side to get some side pieces that would follow the contour a bit.


Next I broke out the singer put my 7th grade home ec skills to work and went to town...


So while my wife was watching dancing with the stars I was sewing in the dining room(and being made fun of)...it was a banner night at our house...
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 03:39:08 am »
It looked like it actually might work...once turned right side out...


I had to do something for the front and I didn't want to square it off but wasn't sure what else to do.


I put a layer of open cell foam on it to finish it off...again with 3M spray adhesive.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 05:27:30 am »
You're probably past this point but a good way to handle when you need to butt two pieces of foam together like that is to angle the edges so instead of meeting like this ====||=====   they meet like this =====//===== and then use some spray adhesive to tack them together.  This gives a bit more surface area to the joint.

Nice work so far, looking forward to the rest.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 06:42:21 am »
thanks,  yeah, I just barely had enough to get the length of the seat covered with those 2 pieces so I couldn't afford an overlap...nor did I think about it...good idea

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 06:49:49 am »
I had seen someone else suggest these tack strips here so I tried to find them locally with no luck.  I had to make an ebay order...


Many, many pop rivets later I had them all installed


Now it was time to put the vinyl on, but I was a little nervous about how the front was going to look as the seam didn't match up with the shap of the pan, but overall I think it looks ok.




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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 06:55:39 am »
That came out looking really nice.  Good job.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 06:55:45 am »
on the bike in the dark garage...


not sure I like it.  I think it turned out ok, but I don't know if it looks right.  I guess I'm so used to seeing the stock seat on it that this just looks out of place.

As cheap as the vinyl was I may do it again and change a few things on it.  The front of the seat is so low that there's a gap between the seat and the bottom of the tank.  I supposed I should have built up the front to account for that.   Like I said though for another $6 I could try it all over again.

Anyway, let me know what you think and maybe share some ideas on how to improve it.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 06:56:13 am »
That looks really good, actually.  Came out very nice in the end.  I am doing something similar with my old K/Q seat, my pan is different than yours but it should come out pretty similar.

Got any pics of the cover from the bottom, and how you used the tack strips?

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 06:59:00 am »
Looks good, but you took home ec??? :o
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 07:00:55 am »
on the bike in the dark garage...


not sure I like it.  I think it turned out ok, but I don't know if it looks right.  I guess I'm so used to seeing the stock seat on it that this just looks out of place.

As cheap as the vinyl was I may do it again and change a few things on it.  The front of the seat is so low that there's a gap between the seat and the bottom of the tank.  I supposed I should have built up the front to account for that.   Like I said though for another $6 I could try it all over again.

Anyway, let me know what you think and maybe share some ideas on how to improve it.

Looks nice.... no wrinkles....  kinda looks like a seat from a "bratstyle" bike....  nice job.
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2009, 07:01:12 am »
That looks really good, actually.  Came out very nice in the end.  I am doing something similar with my old K/Q seat, my pan is different than yours but it should come out pretty similar.

Got any pics of the cover from the bottom, and how you used the tack strips?

Thanks,

no i didn't take any of the bottom, but I will today sometime.  I just stretched it as best I could and shoved it down over the tacks two at a time and folded those down.  I tried to make sure I was pulling uniformily as I went but that was kinda tough to do.  I should have doubled over the vinyl and put a seam along the bottom edge so I would have had a double thickness to put the tacks through...maybe on my next attempt...

For $20 of foam, $6 of vinyl, and $8 for tack strips I can't complain I guess.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2009, 07:04:35 am »
Foam, $20
Vinyl, $6
Tack strips, $8


Doing it yourself...... priceless!



Well done, looks very good.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2009, 07:06:14 am »
Looks good, but you took home ec??? :o

Lol, everyone had to...mandantory in 7th grade in 1986.  My mom is actually quite a seamstress...made my sister's wedding dress  :o  and it was really well done.  I only got a small fraction of her ability.

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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 07:10:21 am »
I took foods 101, mainly because I like to eat. Teacher zinged me on cleaning up the station after preparation though.
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 07:19:21 am »
That came out pretty good.  I like it.  I'm planning a similar seat whenever I find a cheap pan that will fit my '76 CB550.
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2009, 07:25:23 am »
I think that looks pretty bloody good! Maybe for the MkII version you could do ribbing like this:
 


How hard was it to actually stitch the vinyl ? I've heard you need a beefy sewing machine to do it.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2009, 07:46:38 am »
The seat looks great dilbone! I'm going to try building a custom seat in the next few months. But one question... how does it feel?
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2009, 09:59:29 am »
Very nice job!
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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2009, 11:18:38 am »
I think that looks pretty bloody good! Maybe for the MkII version you could do ribbing like this:
 


How hard was it to actually stitch the vinyl ? I've heard you need a beefy sewing machine to do it.

Thanks for that pic of the tack strips you used...that got me searching because I wasn't sure what to do about that part of it...I've been following your build closely.

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Re: New seat on an old pan...fun project
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2009, 11:26:44 am »
Hey thanks for posting your work. It has helped me decide if I want to try to use a stock pan for a low profile seat.
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