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Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« on: December 11, 2005, 07:35:04 AM »
Don't know if this would make the world news but I was woken at 6am this morning (Sunday) by a bang that made the windows rattle.

Turns out a fuel storage depot in Hemel Hempstead exploded.  That's over 40 miles away !! According to the BBC, 20 tanks (each containing 3 million gallons) of petrol and aviation fuel went up.

The high altitude smoke reached here at lunchtime.

Here are some pics from the BBC News website...
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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2005, 07:37:44 AM »
I read about that on Yahoo News this morning, right now they are saying it is an accident.  I hope it stays an accident.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2005, 09:37:40 AM »
My Wife both heard and felt the explosion (since we're only around 10 - 15 miles from Hemel Hempstead and the fuel depot-True to form, I slept through the whole thing  (some years ago, the South of UK was decimated by an Hurricane one dark night - ince again, I managed to slumber on, and finally crawled form my bed compalining about all the noise outside (as the Police attempted to turn the regular motorists who used our country road as a "Rat Run" around and send them back through town.

OK, that's it,....back to bed now....<yawn>

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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2005, 09:39:56 AM »

woke to the news myself on BEEB radio - wrote my dad in Ryslip, but still haven't heard back yet...

they say it will burn for days - all they can do is "starve" it, they can't put it out.

looks like y'all will be turning to Chavez for some of that cheap heating oel this winter... ;D
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2005, 10:14:38 AM »
Made all the networks here in the U.S. this A.M. Just what you folks need, higher gas prices.  >:(
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 12:00:50 PM »
Sorry, ca'nt stop to post,.... off to fill my tank to the brim ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2005, 12:46:46 PM »
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Your avatar looks like something out of Jurassic Park.  :o
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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2005, 01:28:48 PM »
Terry, the "hurricane" was October 1987.  I certainly didn't sleep through it as my greenhouse was being thrown around my garden and tiles were coming off the roof!

My son (now 18) was 6 months old - he did sleep through it!
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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2005, 02:13:43 PM »
Although the blast could be felt 40miles away, only 40 people injured, and only 2 serieously. Unreal thank God.
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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2005, 05:22:15 AM »
Here's a picture of the cloud over London (20 miles south)
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2005, 06:02:57 AM »
I didn't hear or feel it, but soon after the explosion the sky was very dark as the smoke cloud moved over my house, some 30 miles away from the explosion. The latest is that it was an accident and that petrol prices will not be effected!
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2005, 06:07:20 AM »
Terry, the "hurricane" was October 1987.  I certainly didn't sleep through it as my greenhouse was being thrown around my garden and tiles were coming off the roof!

My son (now 18) was 6 months old - he did sleep through it!

You see what an innocent mind can accomplish?

The fire isn't threatening anyone any longer, but the smoke plume makes the country it's laying over look as if it's in the grip of a Nuclear Winter.

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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2005, 06:09:10 AM »
Terry,
It must be bad where you are? It is still dark and nasty here!
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2005, 06:13:40 AM »
So if it is an accident = the oil/petrol prices stay down
On purpose by some towel headed extremist = the oil/petrol prices sky rocket and oil companies globally make record profits?

Makes one wonder who owns who  ::) I'd pay people to blow up my stuff if I could make record profits.  ::)

So far your petrol prices stay down and that is good.

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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2005, 06:20:30 AM »
If you consider 90 p a litre good? that's $6.8 per UK gallon! I hope I made a mistake on that conversion? >:(

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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2005, 06:23:02 AM »
Wow, Jim... I would hope you made a mistake too..?  :o My guess is problably not.  :-\

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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2005, 06:26:22 AM »
A few years ago when I lived in CA, I remember there was a huge outcry when 'gas' reached almost $1 per US gallon.
What is the average price now?
Btw, that 90p is for regular unleaded.

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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2005, 06:31:21 AM »
Here in the midwest it reached $3.15 a gallon a while back.....now it`s right around $2.15 for regular unleaded.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2005, 06:38:11 AM »
Stephan,
Great pic. We should send that to our friends the politicians here in the UK.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2005, 06:39:43 AM »
aaaack! squawk squawk ibi squawk!!  $2.09.99
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2005, 07:49:14 AM »
I wish mine locally was $2.09 US. The first born, they can have her.. but I need my limbs for riding the old bike ;D

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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2005, 08:48:04 AM »
I would not doubt if that explosion is used as an excuse for raising the prices here in the USA. The excuse will be that more oil needs to go to the UK and thus our reserves will drop and blah blah blah. Maybe if people pushed more for high mileage cars, then oil companies will feel a good crunch and lower prices to keep people buying regular cars. We all really need to kick our politicians in the ass.

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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2005, 09:31:11 AM »
instead of spending some of the money on research into alternative fuels, SQUAWK, the oil companies, newly laden with all our muthering cash from last year are spending it on takeovers - that way they will have less competition, more control.

32 billion dollar takeover, baby...BRAAK!
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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2005, 09:49:38 AM »
Terry,
It must be bad where you are? It is still dark and nasty here!
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Jim, I did a GoogleEarth search for "Surrey, England" and came up with about 10 or so places with "Surrey".  Do you have LAT & LON coordinates of your town? Just curious where you're are in relationship to the blast.

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2005, 10:14:29 AM »
Steve,

search "Wokingham, England" for me and "Camberley, England" for Jim.

or "Rickmansworth, England" for UKCB750CAFERACERS which is almost 0 miles!
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2005, 12:51:21 PM »
Jimbo, your calculation was about right at $6-80 a gallon,.....yuck >:( >:(
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2005, 01:06:06 PM »
holy smokes, steve...i think i spotted ya   :o
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2005, 03:23:30 PM »
holy smokes, steve...i think i spotted ya   :o
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Re: Fuel Storage Explosion in England
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2005, 02:58:04 AM »
I guess you guys in the States can understand why we in the UK look for cars which do about 40-45 miles to the gallon. Maybe George W. is not as bad as Tony B.

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« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2005, 03:28:25 AM »
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Maybe George W. is not as bad as Tony B.

This should be moved to the Humor section.  ;D
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« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2005, 03:46:06 AM »
It should be moved the dust bin/trash can...

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« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2005, 08:45:33 PM »
Well, that'll teach you Limey bastards for installing that "Lucas" extinguisher system, ha ha! Oh wait a minute, I was going to be more sympathetic than that, sorry about that, I was thinking about that terrible fire, and then I started to think about ashes, then "The Ashes" and I got all angry and bitter again! Sorry about that, I'll try and be nicer next time...............

Now fuel prices in Britain have always been incredibly high, but to be fair (unlike English bowlers, those cheating bastards! Oops, here I go again! Sorry......) a UK gallon is 4.55 litres, whereas a US gallon is only 3.7 litres, so a UK gallon should cost about 20 percent more in the US, but as the average wage in Britain is about 25 percent higher than in the US, slowly that "enormous" difference in price is reduced.

Don't get me wrong, fuel is still markedly higher in Britain and Europe than the US or Oz, but as you're all rich bastards who can afford to buy half-decent cricketers from South Africa because you're all crap, then you can afford higher fuel prices, so suck eggs! Er, I'm sorry for that outburst, I better go and have a little lie down................ Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2005, 12:54:11 AM »
On the basis that it costs the same (on average) per capita to run a modern Western democracy, each government is free to pay for this however they please. Some European governments like to take it all in income tax, ours likes to gather more from indirect taxes (like fuel tax) that tax the people who use the most, the US seem to take low direct taxes, local sales tax and then force everyone to pay for their education and healthcare.

What do the Aussies do Terry? (apart from lose cricket matches)

So the biggest loser is a visiting American in UK with a rental car (although we'll still treat him/her in our hospitals if they're ill as a special treat...)

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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2005, 06:13:24 AM »
What do the Aussies do Terry? (apart from lose cricket matches)

I'd rather you didn't mention cricket Steve, my doctor gave me a shot of something, and I've been feeling pretty mellow, until I read your post. Anyway, I digress. At the moment we're paying around $1.10 AUD per litre, so that's about $4.00 US per imperial gallon, or $3.20 per US gallon.

Not great, but even back in the 1970's when I visited Britain and Europe gas was twice as dear as Oz, I think it was just a tool devised by the British government to keep their ailing car industry alive, and to stop the Americans from crushing those horrible Hillman Hunters and Vanguards (urrrgghhh!) etc, under some decent V8 powered Muscle Cars! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2005, 07:18:45 AM »
The only "V8 powered muscle cars" that sell here seem to be those awful BMW X5s...  (I don't class my Jag as a "Muscle Car" - far too vulgar).

I drive my son's Ford Fiesta most of the time and when one of those slab sided monsters pulls up alongside I (rather smugly) ponder on the fact that a set of new tires will cost them more than my car!
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2005, 12:08:17 PM »
Ha ha, fair one Steve, we're obviously not as fond of jags out here, old XJ6 and XJ12's are cheap to buy, and most people I know who've bought one pull the pommy boat anchors out of them and fit proper Ford of Chev small block V8's to make 'em go as good as they look.

Over here we can get our cars converted to LP gas for about $2000.00, and because the government wants us to use it rather than the refinerys burning it off like they did in Britain when I was there, there's bugger all in the way of taxes on the stuff, so we pay about 30-40 cents per litre for it, and the new Ford and GM-H cars have a "dual fuel" or "LP Gas only" option out of the factory now.

I tried to convince my boss to convert my Toyota work "Ute" (pickup truck) to LP gas 3 years ago, but head office didn't like the idea of spending 1800 bucks up front, anyway, they've just realised that if they took my advice they'd have saved just over 10,000 bucks in fuel, including the cost of the conversion! Ah well, not my money................. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2005, 12:13:24 PM »
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Ah well, not my money.................

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