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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2009, 10:58:21 AM »
If Bush would have wanted a Nobel Peace prize he would have taken it.

I love that man for supporting the military.  In the words of GW, "Fack ya'll, I'm outta here!"

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2009, 12:59:18 PM »
Ultimately this thread is doing nothing but allowing those who don't like obama to begin with, a chance to b1tch and moan. Funny thing is many of these people supported bush when he was spouting the "if you are not with us, you are a terrorist" crap. Many of these same people also like to gloss over the fact that TARP was created by Bush, they seem to do their damnest to try and pin it all on obama. Many of these same people also blow smoke out their asses about obama being socialist when we lost MANY past freedoms under bush and in some way have GAINED some back under obama. You can bet that if even a white person went to a bush conference with a gun, even unloaded, would have been arrested and then probably labeled as a terrorist.

Ecosse, there will most likely never be peace in the middle east. ever.
Even gad has not managed that one, oh wait, it is different beliefs in god that started it.

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2009, 02:01:42 PM »
Ultimately this thread is doing nothing but allowing those who don't like obama to begin with, a chance to b1tch and moan. Funny thing is many of these people supported bush when he was spouting the "if you are not with us, you are a terrorist" crap. Many of these same people also like to gloss over the fact that TARP was created by Bush, they seem to do their damnest to try and pin it all on obama. Many of these same people also blow smoke out their asses about obama being socialist when we lost MANY past freedoms under bush and in some way have GAINED some back under obama. You can bet that if even a white person went to a bush conference with a gun, even unloaded, would have been arrested and then probably labeled as a terrorist.

Ecosse, there will most likely never be peace in the middle east. ever.
Even gad has not managed that one, oh wait, it is different beliefs in god that started it.

while i can't speak specifically about those commenting in this thread i will say it seems to be the pathological inability for many on the left (not all) to understand there are scores of people from many political stripes, particularly on the right, who did/do denounce the actions of bush you site. unfortunately, acknowledging this shatters the the myth this is a right wing hate obama-fest. i, and many others, agree with you at least to some extent. get it?

what you want to believe about abama's socialist leanings is up to you. enjoy living in the dark.

btw: the middle east crack i made was in jest. my point is that if bo ever actually accomplishes something universally deemed worthy of an award i will not let partisanship stand in the way of giving due credit. i did give the guy a shot and withheld judgement and accepted him as my president. something many on the left could not do for bush. it's this simplistic partisanship that speaks more about those spewing it (ie: republicans are anti-immigrant, racist, greedy, yadda yadda) than those they ridicule.

something i did learn from the orgy of bush bashing is that, when all you do is regurgitate hateful over the top bile supplied by politicians and fringe group pundits, any legitimate points you may have are diminished and lost in the sea of your own overwrought rhetoric. looking back, and although i still support bush in many areas, the left was right (correct? ;)) about a few things.

let's hope that, while there are currently a growing number of middle and left leaning people waking up to the reality of this administration, more on the left will step outside their little echo chamber of blind hate to see things as they are; just as there are those on the right who are finally realizing blind partisanship is not patriotic. anyone who bothered to actually go to a tea party, rather than ignorantly criticize from their computer screen, would know this last point first hand.  
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2009, 02:15:05 PM »
lots of countries have had black presidents.

Countries with a rich racist heritage like ours?
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2009, 02:16:24 PM »
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anyone who bothered to actually go to a tea party, rather than ignorantly criticize from their computer screen, would know this last point first hand.
People were arrested for stuff like this when bush was in office.
As for living in the dark, are you sure it is me or yourself? I never said he deserved the award or that he didn't. I did not even refer to it actually.
As for the reality of the administration, again, is this reality or just YOUR reality? Do you have some crystal ball or is it all merely your opinion? Considering you do not own vic world or every sandcast still left, I would have to say it is your opinion on what you think reality is.

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2009, 02:38:31 PM »
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anyone who bothered to actually go to a tea party, rather than ignorantly criticize from their computer screen, would know this last point first hand.
People were arrested for stuff like this when bush was in office.
to some extent that may be true. but with no examples sited i'll point out a profound difference between the tea parties and  many leftie protests. violence at tea parties are about nil, including that big one in dc recently.

As for living in the dark, are you sure it is me or yourself? I never said he deserved the award or that he didn't. I did not even refer to it actually.
As for the reality of the administration, again, is this reality or just YOUR reality? Do you have some crystal ball or is it all merely your opinion? Considering you do not own vic world or every sandcast still left, I would have to say it is your opinion on what you think reality is.
sounds like somebody needs a hug.  ;)



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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2009, 02:43:02 PM »
Just about pee'd myself watching that.... ;D
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2009, 02:45:20 PM »
And when was there violence at "leftie" protests? Without any "examples", blah blah blah.

Yes try to talk down to me. Shows you don't have any basis other than what you want to think.
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2009, 03:43:27 PM »
This thread appears to be approaching the end of its useful life.
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2009, 03:44:29 PM »
And when was there violence at "leftie" protests? Without any "examples", blah blah blah.

so, you're saying there's never been violence initiated by passionate liberal protesters, right? funny, but you zeroed in to this comment but ignored that i actually agreed with the point you made. keep that hate alive!


Yes try to talk down to me. Shows you don't have any basis other than what you want to think.
As for negotiating with the wild fires, bush would have taken vacation time.

it's your business but you might want to consider that i was merely injecting a little levity rather than assume the negative. but, i suppose it allows you in your mind to utterly dismiss my other points that were, if anything, diplomatic.  keep that hate alive!
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2009, 04:29:05 PM »
This thread appears to be approaching the end of its useful life.

yea, hate to have to agree. When will we learn that politics, religion, and sex do not make good topics.....oh wait a minute...lets forget I mentioned the sex and eliminate the politics and religion threads ;D
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« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2009, 04:44:06 PM »
This thread appears to be approaching the end of its useful life.


Ahh!  CENSORSHIP!   ;D
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2009, 05:16:21 PM »
yea, hate to have to agree. When will we learn that politics, religion, and sex do not make good topics.....


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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2009, 06:02:43 PM »
And when was there violence at "leftie" protests?

I know the challenge/question was about RECENT history, BUT...

some of the POTUS's friends from the Weather Underground come to mind.  And THAT was some very bad stuff.
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2009, 07:13:24 PM »
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but with no examples sited i'll point out a profound difference between the tea parties and  many leftie protests.
How is this agreeing with me? As for hate, you seem to contain some yourself. Hello pot, I'm kettle.

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2009, 08:05:35 PM »
And when was there violence at "leftie" protests?

I know the challenge/question was about RECENT history, BUT...

some of the POTUS's friends from the Weather Underground come to mind.  And THAT was some very bad stuff.


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« Reply #91 on: October 13, 2009, 09:35:27 PM »
yeah. numbers i see hover around 50-60 some odd percent. hazzah!!!!

Are you talking about the half that voted for him?  Cause it doesn't seem like the half that didn't vote for him ever intended to support him in the first place  ::)

people are quick to pee them selves over the numbers when it helps feed the cult of personality. but are quick to attempt some incomprehensible dismissal of less than glowing numbers.

if you pay attention to the news there are more than a few on the left (including that buddah sized documentary maker) who are less than pleased with bo's performance. so, both sides are not so pleased.

this (link) is one example where all bo's lofty speeches don't live up to the expectations of his adoring public. ask your self, if this was bushes term and these stats during his time, would they garner the same lack of attention?

http://uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=20391

below: proof our prez has actually accomplished something. eventually, the blame bush thing will wear thin; it's called the law of diminishing returns... and a cop out.

I have a chart too. ;D  It shows favorability ratings.  It looks like you have some work to do but at least you are ahead of the Republican Party. ;D

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #92 on: October 13, 2009, 09:52:46 PM »
As for hate, you seem to contain some yourself.

hey, you refused the hug.  ;D

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2009, 06:18:25 AM »
Men don't hug. At least not until good and drunk. :D

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2009, 06:32:59 AM »
I'm fascinated with the Racist comments... only Jimmy Carter could come up with that crap... and just when I was actually beginning to admire the guy... ( Habitat for Humanity is a treat around here )...

The Nobel prize is a freaking Joke...

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2009, 07:47:15 AM »
Oh ABSOLUTELY!!!  The racism comments are totally out of line.  I don't care for the president's policies, regardless of his race.  I don't like him, but I've got to say that President Obama handled that very well too.  He said:

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Last time I checked, I was black before the election.

Funny, but I felt exactly the same way as you.  I though that Carter had started to redeem himself with Habitat for Humanity, but that stupid comment really proved what a horses' ass he really is.

The problem, however, is that some people will believe stupid comments like that, serving to undermine all of the progress we have made in race relations, and further polarizing the people.

I'm fascinated with the Racist comments... only Jimmy Carter could come up with that crap... and just when I was actually beginning to admire the guy... ( Habitat for Humanity is a treat around here )...

The Nobel prize is a freaking Joke...

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« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2009, 07:25:23 AM »
Not to insult anyone but I thought this was funny!



I did not hate mccain, just did not agree with him but palin had a whole head full of loose screws!
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2009, 08:52:55 AM »
Not to insult anyone but I thought this was funny!



I did not hate mccain, just did not agree with him but palin had a whole head full of loose screws!
This is merely for entertainment! You know, funnies?

That cartoon was great.  I have nothing against Palin, but it was just a clever cartoon.   :D
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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2009, 11:28:06 AM »
And when was there violence at "leftie" protests?
I know the challenge/question was about RECENT history, BUT...

some of the POTUS's friends from the Weather Underground come to mind.  And THAT was some very bad stuff.

It amazes me that Obama and Ayers barely knew each other, and well after the terrorist activity( that BTW, Ayers was never even accused of being a part of), yet they are characterised as "friends".

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Re: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2009, 12:29:51 PM »
generally when making a claim like that, backing data is needed.