Topic: Calling Corona, CA GET A DEAL ON HIGH PERFORMANCE SHOCKS!!!!!!

[Big Bob]

Perhaps my original wording was too subtle?



Last weekend at the Barber Vintage Festival I got into a conversation with one of the guys from Race Tech Suspension.

http://www.racetech.com/

Race Tech is interested in expanding their line to include more vintage applications and one of the first things they want to tackle is the SOHC 4 Honda.

They need a well-sorted SOHC CB 750 for R&D purposes.  They would need to borrow the bike for a few weeks and ride it around with various experimental shocks bolted to it.  I am not clear on the details but I was assured the owner of this bike would be well compensated.  Race Tech makes really, really nice suspension components.  You do the math.

By "You do the math" what I mean to say is "If you let the guys from Race Tech borrow your bike for a few weeks they'll hook you up with a really, really good deal on some high performance shocks."  If I had an economically feasible way to get one of my bikes to them I would take them up on this deal myself.

Interested individuals in the vicinity of Corona, CA should contact me at their earliest convenience at bigbob (at) ameritech (dot) net.

People who are interested in purchasing high quality custom made shocks for their vintage bikes (of any make or displacement) should contact Race Tech and encourage them to continue developing products for the vintage market.

Thanks.

[Big Bob]

Bump.  C'mon, somebody has to be interested.

[turboguzzi]

Were they talking 750 shocks for racing or for street use?

if for the later, then dont get discouraged but considering racetech prices (1000$ a pair before options), I cant think of many 750 owners that'll want to shell out that kind of money when IKON's, etc, give good service for a fraction. I might be wrong of course....

racing shocks would be another story but in that case their market is waaay more limited. How many members in sohc4 actually race, less than a dozen? and are they willing to pay that kind of money (or more like 1500$ for adjustable damping) for their vintage racer suspension? .....

would love to have a pair of those shocks in my racer, but not at those prices.

TG 

[HawaiiMike]

If they want to borrow someone's 750 for a few weeks they should GIVE the owner a pair of their shocks.

[Big Bob]

Were they talking 750 shocks for racing or for street use?

As I understand things?  Either.

if for the later, then dont get discouraged but considering racetech prices (1000$ a pair before options), I cant think of many 750 owners that'll want to shell out that kind of money when IKON's, etc, give good service for a fraction. I might be wrong of course....

racing shocks would be another story but in that case their market is waaay more limited. How many members in sohc4 actually race, less than a dozen? and are they willing to pay that kind of money (or more like 1500$ for adjustable damping) for their vintage racer suspension? .....

would love to have a pair of those shocks in my racer, but not at those prices.

If they come out with these shocks I'll be putting a set on my next race bike.  I'm moving out of Production class next year and my suspension options will be expanding quite a bit.

Are they expensive?  Yes.  But seeing as we've got subscribers that are willing to pay big money for 1000cc SOHC engines I figure some of those guys are going to want to be able to apply that power to the ground.

[Big Bob]

If they want to borrow someone's 750 for a few weeks they should GIVE the owner a pair of their shocks.

For what it's worth I agree with you.  And I would not rule this out.

But I'm not a representative of Race Tech.  I was asked by one of their employees if I might be able to find someone willing to talk to them about the loan of a bike.  I've done what I can.  What agreement the owner of the bike is able to make with Race Tech is up to them.

It's an opportunity for a Single Cammer in the area of Corona, CA that I'm sharing with the list.

[turboguzzi]

Hei bob

Nice to hear about another racer, come join us at the new racing and hi-perf section of the forum.

any chance to see a pic of your racer?

I race in the italian vintage championship and even the very fast guys on top open class 1100cc vintage superbikes seem to do well on much cheaper shocks like Ikons or the ones from amortizzattori.net.

I am actually racing on old refurbished Koni's but my little 500 puts out only a puny 62hp.

Happy for you that you can afford racetechs though!

TG

[joeb]

To far for me live in the Bay Area .

[bucky katt]

like terry in aus said......putting 1000 dollar shocks on one of our bikes is like buying a 20 dollar hooker a mink coat.

[754]

Yeah but some of us are riding 5-10K HOOKER equipped 750,s..

[Retro Rocket]

Yeah but some of us are riding 5-10K HOOKER equipped 750,s..

OK who's selling the Hookers......

Mick

[Big Bob]

any chance to see a pic of your racer?

Me on my Hagon equipped CB 750 this past June at Road America:

Happy for you that you can afford racetechs though!

Yeah?  Well, it's pretty easy for me to say I'm going to buy something that doesn't even exist yet.  So don't be too happy.

[turboguzzi]

the pic....?

[greasy j]

if my bike was running I would make my way to corona for super high end shocks. I can't believe no one is taking them up on this. of course I would not pay a grand for rear shocks. not that my $40 bike isn't worth it. if I was rich I'd buy lots of outrageous stuff for my baby. alas, I cannot. maybe the racetech factory needs a paint job and we can work a trade.

[Big Bob]

the pic....?

WTF?  OK, fixed.  Not sure what happened there.

[turboguzzi]

Nice knee dragging shot!

....but can we see the bike too? 

Cheers

TG

[BobbyR]

any chance to see a pic of your racer?

Me on my Hagon equipped CB 750 this past June at Road America:

Happy for you that you can afford racetechs though!

Yeah?  Well, it's pretty easy for me to say I'm going to buy something that doesn't even exist yet.  So don't be too happy.

Wow, you got big balls riding like that. Nice pic.

[Queeg]

damnit why do i always come across this stuff like 10 days later.. always a 10 minits drive from my house.......acccccccccccckk

[turboguzzi]

hei bob, we are still waiting for a proper shot of your bike!

Cheers

TG

[Big Bob]

damnit why do i always come across this stuff like 10 days later.. always a 10 minits drive from my house.......acccccccccccckk

The offer is still open.  Feel free to shoot me a PM or email bigbob (at) ameritech (dot) net

[Big Bob]

hei bob, we are still waiting for a proper shot of your bike!

Nag, nag, nag.

Here you go.  1970 Honda CB 750.  Stock displacement (thanks to Millennium Technologies for nikasil plating and decking to cylinders), head cleaned up (seats and guides by G&G machine shop in Rantoul, Il), carbs dialed in.  Dyna ignition.  Drilled and milled front rotor, pads from Vintage Brake, one piece braided stainless line, Brembo master cylinder.  51 tooth aluminum rear sprocket.  18 inch rims with heavy duty spokes from Buchanan's, Dunlop GT 501's.  Tire changing by Chicago's own Mr. Yamaha, the No-Mar Ninja.  Pipes were cut and re-baffled by my racing mentor Garry Bird of YMRacing. 

This pic is from The Barber Vintage Festival a few weeks ago.  Bike, crew chief/hauler driver/mechanics assistant/cheerleader/right arm Jennifer, and the incompetent hack that rides the thing.

[bwaller]

Good looking race bike (and race team) Bob.

Any other CB's to race with at Barber?

[simon#42]

you look far from incompetent to me bob !

[GoatBaSS]

Bob sorry I missed you in person though I think I did see you round the track a few. As for other 750s yes a couple. Friend took pics and I know of one f series bike that was there, if my memory serves. But there were TWO honda ascots!!! That was a fun sighting.

[Big Bob]

Hey!  Back on task!

Enough of this chit-chat about Barber.  If you've got a well-sorted CB 750 in the vicinity of Corona, Ca you need to get in touch with me.  All you people that want to talk about The Barber Vintage Festival, I've started a Barber thread over in the racing forum.

[turboguzzi]

the 750 looks good man, really like that modified stock look, very seventies.

I (and I guess many others) would be VERY interested to hear more about the nikasil work you've done. Did they also supply the ally sleeves to be plated? 

back to shock the subject, I had a deep look at the racetech site and the G3-S shocks are basically emuslion type (assuming you are not talking about the piggy back type which is not allowed in many vintage classes).

Even with the best shim stack / speed sensitive valving, there's only so much you can get from frothy oil....

That's why I doubt the worth  of these high end shocks, that's all.

They do say in the site that you could order them with an IFP (internal floating piston) that separates the oil form air, "de carbon" style, but only above a certain shock length. Makes sense.

Now that would be a proper modern shock but as they say in the site, this option is only available above a certain length  of shock, cant believe an IFP can be fitted to a stock 750 length shock, maybe on a racing only one, MUCH longer than stock, 14" or more.

If you have anyone to contact there, it would be interesting to know from what shock length onwards can the fit an IFP

Cheers
TG

from the racetech site:

Race Tech G3-S Custom Series for Vintage

# Non-Reservoir Emulsion - $699/pair
# Internal Floating Piston - (if there is internal length available) - add $50 per pair

 

[Big Bob]

back to shock the subject, I had a deep look at the racetech site and the G3-S shocks are basically emuslion type (assuming you are not talking about the piggy back type which is not allowed in many vintage classes).

The class I'm building my next bike for allows piggybacks.  AHRMA Vintage Superbike Heavyweight.

Even with the best shim stack / speed sensitive valving, there's only so much you can get from frothy oil....

That's why I doubt the worth  of these high end shocks, that's all.

Well why stop there?  1000cc kits, 17" alloy rims, dual disc front brakes with stainless lines, turbochargers, Tarozzi rearsets, dry clutches, billet cylinders, bar end mirrors, cafe seats, touring fairings and bags, aftermarket exhaust systems?  Why bother with any of it?

Screw it, let's all go ride EX 500's.

In the mean time if anyone in the vicinity of Corona, CA would like to help Race Tech out with some R&D work and get a nice deal on a nice set of shocks in exchange get in touch with me.

Thanks.