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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2009, 10:38:44 AM »
well done rob that looks great , i take it you have taken a proven clutch and adapted it for the honda? [ i dont mean that as any disrespect, it would be the practical way of doing it ]

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2009, 12:15:57 PM »
On a serious side note, what are your plans for making more/selling? Also what clutch plates are you using? I'm assuming that you have to use plates that are meant to be dry? I know the plates on my Ducati are fairly similar looking to the plates on my other bikes...but the material must be different?

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This clutch is made by as a one off but when there would be enough interest we'll build a small badge. A few parts are from the GSX-R Limited edition and rather expensive, so even these parts will be made to keep the price affordable. Plates are also from GSX-R LE.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2009, 12:23:33 PM »
compliments! looks very nice, good work!

casting of the cover is zer cool indeed

when are you starting work on a 500/550 version?  ;)

TG

Thanks but the credit has to go to the man who actually build it, the cover is a adapted original which is welded to the 'basket'. The final covers will be milled from billet.
Who knows, maybe if time permitted??

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2009, 12:39:46 PM »
the gsxr plates should be more than up to the job

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2009, 02:44:27 PM »
any clue whatever what the cost is going to be like?
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2009, 03:23:54 PM »
WOW, great work Rob.... :o

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2009, 03:32:20 PM »
gee rob, from all bikes on earth to take parts from an LE GSXR? Guess it must be from a 90's model, oil cooled or early water cooled?

These parts must be really hard to find.

Ducati's clutches are built for quite high torque (two big lumps instead of four smaller ones), could be a good source for parts.




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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2009, 04:38:54 PM »
TG probably from '86?,Bill
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2009, 05:46:11 PM »
A friend has an 86 LE & it's a dry clutch

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2009, 06:05:02 PM »
what are replacement parts going to look like price wise?
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #85 on: October 30, 2009, 06:21:30 PM »
A friend has an 86 LE & it's a dry clutch
You're too old to know somebody with an 86. ;) ;D When you figure it out Rob give an approximate cost. With help we can do anything for these bikes....I know. ;)
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #86 on: October 30, 2009, 08:22:49 PM »
This is way cool,I want one!Bill
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #87 on: October 31, 2009, 01:29:11 AM »
Thanks for all the positive energy! Some parts are from a '86 GSX-R LE.
Like Mike says, with help there is a lot we can do for our beloved 750.
At this point cannot say anything about cost, there are some small issue's to be worked out, and of course the testing.
But we'll keep in touch won't we?

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #88 on: October 31, 2009, 02:04:48 AM »
Hi Rob, how hard would that be to do as a hydraulic set up  instead of cable.? I've been thinking of converting mine to hydraulic using 80's gsxr 750 parts that i have.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #89 on: October 31, 2009, 02:14:07 AM »
Hi Rob, how hard would that be to do as a hydraulic set up  instead of cable.? I've been thinking of converting mine to hydraulic using 80's gsxr 750 parts that i have.

Mick

Hey Mick,

That is what could be a accesory for this clutch, but we made the decision to make it cable operated. To convert it is not a big problem.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #90 on: October 31, 2009, 02:20:40 AM »
cable operated is better..........less weight, cheaper, less trouble

there are serious racers who convert their modern race bikes to cable operation

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #91 on: October 31, 2009, 06:12:18 AM »
Hey mec,

I agree, but when using on the public roads hydraulic is nice.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #92 on: October 31, 2009, 06:38:29 AM »
Very very nice Rob, just two questions:

1. How much do you think it'll be and
2. Will you do an option so I don't have to have pink clutch springs?!

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2009, 06:51:33 AM »
Very very nice Rob, just two questions:

1. How much do you think it'll be and
2. Will you do an option so I don't have to have pink clutch springs?!

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Hey LMP,
Can/will not say anything about costs, first have to be sure everything works fine.
I just knew someone had to see that pink! First my stand and now this, looks like I must have a strong feminin side. ;D ;D

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2009, 07:22:03 AM »
Most dry clutches are out in the open and get a great deal of cooling. By the nature of the SOHC Honda case design this clutch is buried way back out of any air stream.   Your going to need a big scoop to direct air back where it is located....IMHO.


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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2009, 07:45:54 AM »
Thanks Mark,

It is something we thought about, but studying several different 'models' and looking at the DOHC superbike clutch, am thinking that a scoop in the fairing will be sufficient. Unfaired no problem.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2009, 05:35:10 PM »
I can test one,unfaired! ;D ;D,Bill
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #97 on: November 01, 2009, 06:16:25 AM »
You would be welcome, if it had not been for my present build. Will make a great "test bike".
Sorry mate. ;)

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #98 on: November 01, 2009, 07:30:36 AM »
Ok,I understand ;),I do need your mtr mounts tho,how to we do it? Thanks,Bill
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #99 on: November 01, 2009, 07:52:16 AM »
I'll PM you.

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