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Offline turboguzzi

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #525 on: March 09, 2011, 01:47:42 PM »
Hi Paul,

Maybe you're right. I am not into 500/550. But years ago I helped someone out who had a dry one on his 500. Cannot seem to recall how it was build.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #526 on: March 10, 2011, 10:18:47 AM »
Yeah, yeah Yossef...  ;) Isn't most of that bike mystery? It's hard to tell from the pictures how they worked their way around the primary/clutch gearing..
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #527 on: March 10, 2011, 10:47:57 AM »
So, the short story is that this mod would have to be worth over $2000-3000 to me to even entertain the idea, yeah?  If something like a 750SS dry clutch could be made to work for a total budget of $1k, I'd look at it pretty hard.  At the $2k for parts alone plus a bunch of machining etc. pricepoint, it's outside the scope of my project.
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #528 on: March 10, 2011, 11:02:44 AM »
i sure hope it's not 2-3K!!  otherwise i'll be using the stock clutch... 

i can probably work with a max budget of 1k, although i've been mentally preparing myself for 5-600 or so.  i bet Rob has quite a few people who would like to buy one, as he knows a bunch on here and the racing circuits!  hopefully my lower end guess is the right one!!   :D :D
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #529 on: March 10, 2011, 11:17:18 AM »
CB500 with dry cluth and the alu plates.
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #530 on: March 10, 2011, 12:02:31 PM »
CB500 with dry cluth and the alu plates.
That looks sooooo bad.  8)
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #531 on: March 10, 2011, 03:53:44 PM »
Here are some little bit more pics of the dry clutched CB500.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=63940.msg848358#msg848358

I think the plate which is mentioned by René doesn´t belong to the shown CB500.
But it looks and works very similar.
In my opinion the mainshaft is the weaky point. Probable it is a little bit too short.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #532 on: May 19, 2011, 10:39:37 AM »
While racing(?) my 'test-rig', had a wonderful time tho had a minor issue with the clutch, but could solve it on site.
Tho carburation was a bit of, she ran like a beauty without any problems. Clutch can handle this 'power' easy. Next week clutch will be used in stronger engined CR836/CR31 etc.etc. During festival at Dijon France.


Minor adjustments to carbs and clutch.

Once past 4k she really flew. A lot of potential in her.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2011, 02:25:12 PM by voxonda »
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #533 on: May 19, 2011, 11:42:22 AM »
Rob, the last picture reminds me of the start of the 1970 Daytona race and Dick Mann. ;D

Nice pics young fellow. 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #534 on: May 19, 2011, 11:48:27 AM »
Very nice.
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #535 on: May 19, 2011, 11:53:04 AM »
Bet you'd go faster without that barn door strapped to the front eh Rob  :D, cheers Mick.
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #536 on: May 19, 2011, 12:12:33 PM »
It disappears when it gets over 75mph Mick. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #537 on: May 19, 2011, 01:43:04 PM »
Rob, the last picture reminds me of the start of the 1970 Daytona race and Dick Mann. ;D

Nice pics young fellow. 8) 8) 8)

Sam. ;)

Thanks Sam, consider that a honour. Once I got grip of that, very tight, corner onto the straight and keeping her around/above 4k she went ballistic. LOL

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #538 on: May 19, 2011, 01:46:53 PM »
Bet you'd go faster without that barn door strapped to the front eh Rob  :D, cheers Mick.

Hey Mick,

Since Croix is such a short circuit ( real M.Mouse like) I prefer the straight bars and the AMA-style #plate. Have a very slick fairing for faster tracks, but like the sit up and beg (thanks CROZ) style more.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #539 on: May 19, 2011, 01:53:43 PM »
Since re-adjusting the carb's, it runs so much better. Changed the mains to 1.50 and lifted the needles to the mid position. Now she idles at 1200rpm, and still have to synchronize the carb's. Now hoping for the TinTop filter unit and making a baffle for the Yoshi rep and hoping to put some public road miles on her.
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #540 on: May 19, 2011, 02:07:03 PM »
awesome news Rob!!  looks like a fun day!!

any chance you took a video? 
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #541 on: May 19, 2011, 02:12:08 PM »
Those number plate holes originally for the cooler might actually help air cool the "boys" on a hot day Rob.  ::)

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #542 on: May 19, 2011, 02:26:39 PM »
awesome news Rob!!  looks like a fun day!!

any chance you took a video?

Hey G, Unfortunaly no vid's. This tastes for more!

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #543 on: May 20, 2011, 12:41:14 PM »
Since I am fiddling with the carb's I thought I'd better take a set of K7 carb's apart to have some spares, just in case.
What I found puzzled me a bit. Have to say am no expert on the PG carb's. But when dissambling the carb's I found the needles and jets and jettube in very good condition. But when I opened up the top and removed the slides I felt a weight difference. And the appereance of the slides looks like anodised aluminium. I took apart a F2 carbslide and again the weight difference puzzled me. I took a electric scale and weighed them both. The F2 complete slide, with needle 105.4 gram. Then the K7, same assembly, 45.8 grams.
Anyone can fill in?

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #544 on: May 20, 2011, 01:59:29 PM »
Sounds like the F2 is made of lead and the K7 magnesium.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Come on the carb experts ???

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #545 on: May 21, 2011, 12:37:04 AM »
Just to show:

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #546 on: May 21, 2011, 04:53:27 AM »
Well that's neat to know. This project just keeps getting better. I just came across it yesterday, late for work, stayed up late ( missed hockey playoffs, which I will have to go to church for), got up early and now am up to pg 22 and ready for more.
Great work Rob, especially with this young lad from Texas holding a gun to your head. Talk about grace under pressure. Yanks want everything NOW, like driver thur, LMAO. Sorry to take the piss out you Wannab. Your excitement and energy level is to be admired.
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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #547 on: May 21, 2011, 06:01:44 AM »
heavy = chromed brass

light = either ally or mazak / zamak type alloy

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #548 on: May 21, 2011, 06:41:49 AM »
TG, I only knew the (heavy) chromed brass pieces, did not know Honda did them differently. Seen a lot of carb's but not with these slides.

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Re: Dry clutch on CB750
« Reply #549 on: May 21, 2011, 10:12:19 PM »
 One type of those 2 different slides uses an adjustable needle jet, the other has a fixed one.
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