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Offline vorhese

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CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« on: November 12, 2009, 06:27:16 PM »
I'm about to buy brass bushings for the swing arm
https://www.partsnmore.com/cat_index.php?model=cb750_sohc&category=chassis

What changed from '75 to '76 to require different bushings?

I checked my serial #'s to verify I do have a 1976 CB750K
E: CB750E-2452758
F: CB750-2563351

And while I'm asking, why aren't there any wiring harnesses available for '76 models?
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 07:44:07 PM »
What changed from '75 to '76 to require different bushings?

The collar is a different diameter on the '76 and "F" and later bikes: it is 0.001" larger diameter on the outer half of each bearing area. The cupped washers between the swingarm tube and the frame changed to have seal around their insides. The internal grease seals disappeared and the two phenolic end caps (also called a "bush" by Honda) disappeared. The bushings became longer by 0.24" and the flange was added to press against the new cup washers in place of the previous phenolic "bush"es. The OEM bushings had one groove in the middle, which matched up with the groove on the baring area of the collar, to attempt to retain some grease in the area. It didn't work real well, though: the earlier version lasted FAR longer.

With those bushings that have the spiral groove inside: they will ingest water from high-pressure car wash spray, so if you use them, keep away from those areas when cleaning the bike.

When I last tried a set of those bushings, I found them to be 0.005" oversize on their OD and 0.035" oversize on the ID. It was like they were made for a Kawasaki, not a Honda. they would not fit...when you go to install them, be sure to check these dimensions first. The press fit should be only about 0.0005" to 0.0010" with this type of bronze. After you press them in, you will find they have mushroomed in the area near the inner edge of the flange, requiring that you either bore or hone them to fit the collar again.  ;)
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 09:51:30 PM »
Here's a tip buy them from Hondaman...  He is one of the most knowledgeable experts on most all things Honda CB 750.
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2009, 06:23:24 AM »
I'm trying to find these, is he selling some some where?

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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2009, 07:36:01 AM »
You are missing the whole point,

 which is;


 To Achieve a good fit, bushings should be installed, THEN FIT to your serviceable inner components..

 Its a bit like buying pistons... yes they can sell you something that MAY fit  without additional work, but for that to happen, you will end up with a loose fit..
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2009, 09:45:02 AM »
I'm trying to find these, is he selling some some where?


He offers a full swingarm rebuild service.  Send him a Personal Message for details:

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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2009, 07:08:03 PM »
+1  with mystic_1
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2009, 09:58:19 PM »
+1  with mystic_1

Hey, Cafe:
I'm going to be out in KC area in December, will see DookieDuke. Maybe we could eyeball each other, too?
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 08:58:29 PM »
Hell yeah!  I'd like nothing more!  I know a ton of great places to eat and get drinks!  I promise I won't ask a million questions about everything...  I'm actually a little giddy right now, I feel like I'm meeting a movie star!

Cheers!

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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2009, 09:32:19 AM »
Hell yeah!  I'd like nothing more!  I know a ton of great places to eat and get drinks!  I promise I won't ask a million questions about everything...  I'm actually a little giddy right now, I feel like I'm meeting a movie star!

Cheers!

Anders



That's embarrassing...I'm just an old #$@!....  ;D
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2009, 09:33:53 AM »
Maybe not a movie star, but he is a TV star! ;D

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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2009, 07:39:14 PM »
Sorry Hondaman...  It's just all the cool stories of working on/ racing Hondas that's got me jazzed!  Plus all the free advice that you've given to all of us here on the forum!  You have a wealth of info and wisdom that has but a few peers on the forum!  I still think ya rock!


Cheers,

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Re: CB750K 1975 to 1975 swing arm differences?
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2009, 08:04:27 PM »
Maybe not a movie star, but he is a TV star! ;D

Oh, man, I forgot about that...  :-[
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
Link to website: https://sohc4shop.com/  (Note: no longer at www.SOHC4shop.com, moved off WWW. in 2024).