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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20625 on: October 20, 2015, 04:18:38 PM »
Went to go adjust the valves today and the tappet cover snapped when I went to loosen it  :(

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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20626 on: October 20, 2015, 04:34:44 PM »
Went to go adjust the valves today and the tappet cover snapped when I went to loosen it  :(
Don't feel bad, that's not uncommon.

But perhaps someone before you tightened it too tight. I consider that one of the "squishables". That is you tighten till the sealing washer squishes, then a skosh more. Then ride it and see if it leaks. If so, a skosh more...


Hey Ron....is that the torque value in your manual....a "skosh"?!  Good to know...ha!
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20627 on: October 20, 2015, 04:49:48 PM »
Stev-o,

That's a technical term.
A Skosh is right between a Smidge and an RCH.   :)  :)

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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20628 on: October 20, 2015, 04:55:13 PM »
...germans have different torque specs...Gutenteit!
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20629 on: October 20, 2015, 06:47:58 PM »
I prefer to tighten mine a tad ;D
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20630 on: October 20, 2015, 07:41:28 PM »
I prefer to tighten mine a tad ;D


agree, tad is the preferred value with me.  It is in the manual, check it out....Larry






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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20631 on: October 20, 2015, 07:43:54 PM »
Rode it to the shop and back today................;)
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20632 on: October 21, 2015, 09:37:20 AM »
Stev-o,

That's a technical term.
A Skosh is right between a Smidge and an RCH.   :)  :)

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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20633 on: October 21, 2015, 12:56:01 PM »
So somewhere near a tad and a skosh, sounds about right.  Based on the previous owners lack of maintenance practices on this bike and the number of bolt heads with vise grip teeth marks I'm pretty sure everything was tightened to "man tight" or as we know it ...way the hell too tight!
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20634 on: October 21, 2015, 01:04:11 PM »
Huh.... I figured if it still turns... It isn't tight enough. I grew up on a farm.... Pneumatic impact wrench until the nut comes to a halt. Which is why working on a 40 year old bike is somewhat frustrating to me.
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20635 on: October 21, 2015, 01:35:33 PM »
Okay, I'm gettin' back in on this #$%*!  I have excuses for being gone for so long, but I'm sure none of you want to hear them, and they aren't all that interesting anyway.

Both of my bikes have been almost as neglected as this forum (by me), but I've recently started riding them on a more regular basis.  Of course that kind of treatment doesn't go unpunished, so on my way home from work the other day my 750 starts sputtering and acting like she's running out of gas, even though there's a full tank.  At the next stop light I smell gas and I know there's a leak.  Sure enough one of the carbs is overflowing, and it can't be fixed by hitting it with a blunt object.  I pulled the carbs and the insides are coated with fuzzy green crap, and the bowl gaskets crumbled upon removal. 

To David Silver Spares I go!  I also came to the sad realization (several years too late) that my carb-to-engine boots were hard as rock and are most likely the cause of the idle issues I've been having for the past few years.  Even with the clamps fully closed the boots still wobbled on their perches.  So in addition to new gasket kits I also ordered new boots.  They aren't cheap, but you can't get a bike to run right with four vacuum leaks, so it's well worth it. 

The package arrives and I'm out in the garage, drinking a beer and happily installing my new, soft, supple carb boots, with blissful thoughts of sitting at a red light without having to constantly blip the throttle to keep her from stalling running through my head, when I realize my stock clamps won't close on them tightly.  I'm pissed.  I measure the new boots against my factory boots, and they're all 2-3mm smaller in diameter than the stock boots.

I start emailing back and forth with customer service at DSS, and as always they have some of the best customer service I've dealt with.  The rep apologizes for the size discrepancy and offers a full refund plus return shipping.  Before going through the trouble of shipping something back to England, I took another look at my parts.  Yes, the new, aftermarket boots were slightly smaller than the factory boots, but the real problem was my factory clamps.  Over the years I have screwed them down so tight, trying to work against the age-hardening of the rubber, that I deformed them to the point that they're incompatible with anything other than the boots they're currently on or larger.

I emailed the rep again, explained the situation, and ordered a full new set of carb boot clamps.  They cost as much as the set of boots themselves (possibly a little more), but it's the last time I'll ever have to buy them again, and they're far better than using standard hose clamps as I've often seen over the years. 

The moral of this story is:  Don't wrench down on your carb boot clamps to get them to seal better.  Yes, it will work for a while, but all you're doing is destroying the clamps and costing yourself more money.  Buy the new rubber boots now and save yourself some time, money and frustration in the future!  I know the boots are expensive, but damn, how much money do you have in your bike already?  How important is it to you that your bike runs and idles well?         

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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20636 on: October 21, 2015, 02:34:48 PM »
Stev-o,

That's a technical term.
A Skosh is right between a Smidge and an RCH.   :)  :)
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Old school Charlie! CH is a thing of the past so it can no longer be used as a standard measurement.  :)


These are Japanese bikes, so the correct term would be "skoshi" ;D

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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20637 on: October 21, 2015, 02:49:20 PM »
Jerru,

Sorry, I'm still stuck back in 1976.
So it's still a viable non politically correct unit of measure!  :)  :)  :)

And joeyvans,
I used  to subscribe to your philosophy.  Until it started costing me more in new bolts then to ease off the pneumatic wrench and start using human tools instead of  Gorilla tools.  ROFLMAO  :) :) :)

And that's my story and I'm sticking to it.  :)  :)  :)

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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20638 on: October 21, 2015, 04:41:29 PM »
Gordo, I'm listening  ;D
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20639 on: October 21, 2015, 05:56:33 PM »
Went to go adjust the valves today and the tappet cover snapped when I went to loosen it  :(
Don't feel bad, that's not uncommon.

But perhaps someone before you tightened it too tight. I consider that one of the "squishables". That is you tighten till the sealing washer squishes, then a skosh more. Then ride it and see if it leaks. If so, a skosh more...




Hey Ron....is that the torque value in your manual....a "skosh"?!  Good to know...ha!

I have a skoshometer. Snap-on I think.   ;)
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20640 on: October 21, 2015, 06:03:08 PM »
I have a skoshometer. Snap-Off I think.   ;)
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20641 on: October 21, 2015, 06:29:26 PM »
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20642 on: October 21, 2015, 10:06:31 PM »
Yeah Gordon, I recall a few years back I was pricing carb parts and boots at the dealership and was very shocked to learn what they wanted for the stock clamps. Someone here posted up a place that had some aftermarket ones that would work and they weren't just normal old hose clamps like you would use on your radiator hoses. All I can recall is that they were on ebay and around $10 for a set of 4.
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20643 on: October 22, 2015, 03:44:32 AM »
Vintage CB750 has clamps that are similar in appearance to the stock clamps for $4 each:

http://www.vintagecb750.com/products/6/fuel-system/54/carb-holders-air-box-rubber-boots-clamps

Still a little pricy for a little metal band, but a whole lot cheaper than dealer stock.
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20644 on: October 22, 2015, 05:21:19 AM »
If you don't care about the OEM look... these are the same stainless clamps that Carpy sells... for MUCH cheaper.

Rolled edges, too. They fit the boots perfectly!

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« Reply #20645 on: October 22, 2015, 05:31:10 AM »
^^^ That's what I use, they are great.
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20646 on: October 22, 2015, 09:54:24 AM »
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20647 on: October 24, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »
My new work commute is so short I barely get the bike warmed up, left work early and stretched its legs on the highway till it got dark out. Love the fall weather, so does the Honda.
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« Reply #20648 on: October 25, 2015, 03:26:52 AM »
I bought her some nice new JIS screwdrivers while I'm here in Japan
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Re: What did you do to your bike today ?
« Reply #20649 on: October 25, 2015, 03:52:18 AM »
I bought her some nice new JIS screwdrivers while I'm here in Japan

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