Topic: The military's oath to protect the US against threats both domestic and foreign

[MetalHead550]

TT   kinda got on a roll there 

[Gordon]

That was quite a rant there, metalhead.  I applaud you, literally and figuratively!!

[cb650]

Kool what is the best polish for my crusade armor.  I've had it put away for a few hundred years and it needs a cleaning.   Funny half my family is wondering why i'm not wearing a feather headdress.



                        Terry

[DiscoEd]

Kool what is the best polish for my crusade armor.  I've had it put away for a few hundred years and it needs a cleaning.

I'm getting good results from Blue Magic metal polishing cream and a felt wheel.
( I love a good crusade! Besides, it'll give Holywood some much needed material.)

-DiscoEd

[DiscoEd]

Meanwhile we still bicker about weather creationism or evolution

Oh that does it! Now here we go! Back on the global warming band wagon again!

-DiscoEd

[ElCheapo]

Now Metalhead, that response really knocked holes in the walls.....plaster settling....

One more fact most don't know. Bin Laden attack on the Cole. It was a result of us training this fool to start with. Then when our government stubbed him he was to say the very least pissed.

This is much like the US being fairweather friends to Pakistan. We did it when it suited us to aid in unseating the extremely unstable Russian government. First we are friends, then were are not, then ..... het there "old" friend.... I think we did this to the French, the Finns, well you get the idea. It is a wonder that every nation in the world doesnt return the favor and try to"liberate" us.

[mrblasty]

I'm on the list now

[cbjunkie]

hey blast-o-cyst...do you still need a 350 bucket, or what?

[750deepsouth]

MetalHead

And yet the vast majority of us still cling to these self serving, self deceiving, force fed superstitions instead of activly seeking the truth ourselves?

Itelligent Design = belief that nothing on the planent is older than 4,000 years ? yeah, right.

[oldbiker]

Cheer up Cheapo, at least your leader hasn't just acted like a yellow bellied coward and handed over the family jewels to the European Union. Needless to say I'm in the UK. We used to be called Great Britain but now we are called Doormat Britain

[dusterdude]

MetalHead

And yet the vast majority of us still cling to these self serving, self deceiving, force fed superstitions instead of activly seeking the truth ourselves?

Itelligent Design = belief that nothing on the planent is older than 4,000 years ? yeah, right.

and who can prove it is?i also call it creationism

[dusterdude]

let me add this,the only age of the earth that we know of is at least 2000 years old since jesus died,before that i dont think the bible even mentions the age of the earth

[ElCheapo]

Cheer up Cheapo, at least your leader hasn't just acted like a yellow bellied coward and handed over the family jewels to the European Union. Needless to say I'm in the UK. We used to be called Great Britain but now we are called Doormat Britain

The bright side is that it will all end eventually. In 10 years we wont even notice the damage he has done.

[Jonesy]

Cheer up Cheapo, at least your leader hasn't just acted like a yellow bellied coward and handed over the family jewels to the European Union. Needless to say I'm in the UK. We used to be called Great Britain but now we are called Doormat Britain

The bright side is that it will all end eventually. In 10 years we wont even notice the damage he has done.

Sssshhh!!! Don't give him any ideas! He still has more time to FUBAR everything....

[cbjunkie]

cheapo, i hope for all our sakes that you're right... i have my doubts, but my buddies think i'm too pessimistic.

things certainly aren't going to magically get better for the "brown" folks over there who us "pale" ones have been manipulating and raping for more than 100 years with superior weapons and political treachery.

[Uncle Ernie]

Being a PK, I have opinions on all this. Dear Abbey once said, "The people in church are the ones who need to be there."  Well, anyway, personally, I don't see why evolution couldn't be part of God's plan.
Shoot- have to go. I hear my Mom's car in the diveway!

[74cb750]

Uhmm, one thing that is oft times forgotten in this debate is it is a THEORY of evolution.

Also is a theory that I will have a running cb350F for the wife in time for Christmas, oh well.
peace

Well, my buddy is going to be in Iraq for another 8 months in Ramallah. Executing the Theory of
Reducing Threats to Non-Muslim countries.

[750deepsouth]

Uhmm, one thing that is oft times forgotten in this debate is it is a THEORY of evolution.

Quite right. In science we look for evidence to support or disprove theories. Facts are used to support theories and the evidence for evolution is very strong.

Think about the word theory as it applies to science.
Anyone doubting the power of the theory of relativity should visit Hiroshima

The only thing that supports creationism or 'intelligent design' is a belief in the supernatural.


 

[ElCheapo]

cheapo, i hope for all our sakes that you're right... i have my doubts, but my buddies think i'm too pessimistic.

things certainly aren't going to magically get better for the "brown" folks over there who us "pale" ones have been manipulating and raping for more than 100 years with superior weapons and political treachery.

From what Terry says, I suspect they need training by the Maori (I problably spelt it wrong).

[cbjunkie]

heepo, i didn't get the Maori memo...what are you referring to?

[Jonesy]

(It's been a few years since I've been in school, so hopefully my memories of what I was taught are correct... This was an argument from one of my professors that I always found interesting. Just throwing it out here for another viewpoint.)

According to the teachings of Thermodynamics, everything in nature is subject to entropy, which indicates that nature has a tendancy for disorder, since the more ordered the system, the more energy required to "assemble" it. (which is easier, throwing bricks into a pile or neatly stacking them?) This goes against the grain of the theory of evolution. Higher-order life forms such as humans (according to the laws of entropy) should be disevolving.  (Of course, some might argue humankind IS on it's way down...)

So, if everything started from the "Big Bang", then who lit the fuse? I once had a religous studies professor who remarked that religion for many serves to fill the void of what can't be explained. This brings up another loaded question: So, when humans feel they have become enlightened enough to explain everything on the merits of hard science, will religion still exist? (Wow, how the course of this thread has changed!)

[cbjunkie]

and you've certainly done you part to help out, jonesy! thanks - we can now "cross the streams" and begin a full-on military/religious discussion!!!

maybe our ill-usage of the humans across the water (the one's who live, make love and raise families on top of all our oil) is just natural selection at work!

in that case we needn't feel guilty about sniping them off at all! why not?

whadda you think, Dusterdude?

[Jonesy]

and you've certainly done you part to help out, jonesy! thanks - we can now "cross the streams" and begin a full-on military/religious discussion!!!

Umm.. (Was I supposed to take that as a compliment or an insult??)

[cbjunkie]

no insults here, believe me. just watching the flow go...

[74cb750]

This just in: USA is watching you, but don't worry,
"God is on our side."
I have always been distressed when people use religion to justify their positions
vs threats (real or percieved).

ALL real religions profess the self-altualization of the individual, via a path well thorn,
not how to supress each other, like the BUsh administration tries to justify their actions
using religious premises.

(just trying to get the thread back to the subject)

Annyone seen the boston globe article on NSA domestic spying in 12/23/5?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/12/23/wiretaps_said_to_sift_all_overseas_contacts/

Ha! Now I know I wasn't paranoid.
peace