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TZ 750
« on: November 18, 2009, 12:24:35 AM »
in the new issue of cycle world the TZ 750 was mentioned in an article, mentioned how Kenny Roberts tried to ride it, and it sounds positively brutally dangerous...........i'd love a ride on one, bet theyre not cheap to acquire or own though.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 12:36:48 AM »
it sounds like a pissed off wasp!  Kenny Roberts on the TZ is the last 40 seconds or so i believe. they showed the modern dirt trackers for contrast to the 34 year old Suzuki.


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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 04:19:07 AM »
Definately not cheap to run!!!

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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 04:45:57 AM »
That's not massively different to any GP 2-stroke though is it Brian. I mean an RS250 honda has new reeds after 150 miles, new pistons after 300 miles and new crank at 1500 miles?

I guess the TZ bits will be harder to get though....

Bucky - last TZ I saw for sale recently was £13,500 GBP and it wasn't a mint example, they just go up in price from there!
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 04:58:45 AM »
I was at the indy mile and saw that this year!

Absolutely an amazing bike. He rode it pretty hard too.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 08:31:47 PM »
I've wanted a TZ750 (in fact, one of the very few Yamaha's I'd want to own) since I first laid my eyes on one. I wonder if Alan Milyard would make me one out of two RD400's, but then again, I'd settle for his V10 Viper, Ooooher! ;D

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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 02:17:08 AM »
i found one on ebay. with 5 or 6 days left the roller was 13,000 and change and the reserve hadnt been met. oh well, i just need to get my own h2 one day.  ;D
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 04:48:41 AM »
Bucky, if you ever get serious about wanting a nasty, hairy, tire-eating H2 with 151 horsepower that comes on/off in 500 rpm - I have one with 42 pampered miles on it for sale. I can't ride and enjoy it, but it's begging for a new home for the person who can.......

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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 08:46:01 AM »
Did you ever install those reed valves on it, gordon?
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 09:41:45 AM »
No, the whole reed set-up is here in boxes. The bike starts and runs perfectly, just needs someone to ride......

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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 11:08:27 AM »
Just curious... What's the largest modern two-stroker out there, for the road, whether be racing nor not?
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 11:25:35 AM »
http://www.flykittymotorsports.com/xpix/85rz500.htm

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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 02:43:44 PM »
There was a street leagal TZ750 that I posted last year in the For Sale section that ended up selling for $12,000 CDN (around $11,000).. It came from a collector that had a bunch of great old race bikes.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 02:58:12 PM »
Quote from: Ilbikes on November 19, 2009, 04:48:41 AM
Bucky, if you ever get serious about wanting a nasty, hairy, tire-eating H2 with 151 horsepower that comes on/off in 500 rpm - I have one with 42 pampered miles on it for sale. I can't ride and enjoy it, but it's begging for a new home for the person who can.......

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if i ever get into enough money, i'd buy it in half a heartbeat Gordon. that is one BEAUTIFUL motorcycle.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 05:31:54 AM »
Quote from: scartail on November 19, 2009, 11:08:27 AM
Just curious... What's the largest modern two-stroker out there, for the road, whether be racing nor not?
Someone's got a 1000cc twin two-stroke combination type bike in the small ads of classic mechanics this month - very weird looking.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2009, 10:16:45 AM »
That Kawi has more HP than a TZ !

 We saw a very nice red TZ 750 Trackmaster at the Bonneville GP.. :o

 We being, Old Scrambler, me, Rodeo, & Bill + Blonde..

 we rapidly filled the drOOl  buckets placed around it, to overflowing.. ;)

 Yes, I do have very good pics, will try to post them soon..

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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2009, 09:48:17 AM »
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Definately not cheap to run!!!

Rings every 4th race
pistons with every 2nd set of rings
crank every season
Crankcases every 2nd crank

Not to mention shares in NGK and trannies!!!

   They were never that expensive to run even when I had my first one back in 1982.
    Now with modern oils and better parts available it is more like
       Rings every 500 miles
       Pistons every 1000 miles (forged pistons are now available for 750,s and last much longer than the origional yamaha ones. I have personally used these pistons for over 1400 racing miles.)
       Crank rebuild 1000 racing miles. My current cranks have done over 9000 racing miles using the same flywheels. (German made heockle flywheels.) Now being remanufactured here in the uk.
       Cases , Likewise the cases have done a similar mileage and I dont intend replacing them any time soon.
       There are approx a 12  to 15 tz 750,s (solo,s and sidecars) now being raced in the uk quite regularely and they are all using cases that are over 25 years old as there as not been any new ones available for many year. However that will change quite soon as the first batch of new cases is currently being made in france so hopefully we may see even more tz 750,s out on track next season.
      Rob
 
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2009, 02:09:56 PM »
Quote from: ow31 on November 21, 2009, 09:48:17 AM
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Definately not cheap to run!!!

Rings every 4th race
pistons with every 2nd set of rings
crank every season
Crankcases every 2nd crank

Not to mention shares in NGK and trannies!!!

   They were never that expensive to run even when I had my first one back in 1982.
    Now with modern oils and better parts available it is more like
       Rings every 500 miles
       Pistons every 1000 miles (forged pistons are now available for 750,s and last much longer than the origional yamaha ones. I have personally used these pistons for over 1400 racing miles.)
       Crank rebuild 1000 racing miles. My current cranks have done over 9000 racing miles using the same flywheels. (German made heockle flywheels.) Now being remanufactured here in the uk.
       Cases , Likewise the cases have done a similar mileage and I dont intend replacing them any time soon.
       There are approx a 12  to 15 tz 750,s (solo,s and sidecars) now being raced in the uk quite regularely and they are all using cases that are over 25 years old as there as not been any new ones available for many year. However that will change quite soon as the first batch of new cases is currently being made in france so hopefully we may see even more tz 750,s out on track next season.
      Rob
 

Still Rob, not for the faint of heart....or wallet!  ;D
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2009, 03:23:04 PM »
Quote from: bwaller on November 21, 2009, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: ow31 on November 21, 2009, 09:48:17 AM
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Definately not cheap to run!!!

Rings every 4th race
pistons with every 2nd set of rings
crank every season
Crankcases every 2nd crank

Not to mention shares in NGK and trannies!!!

   They were never that expensive to run even when I had my first one back in 1982.
    Now with modern oils and better parts available it is more like
       Rings every 500 miles
       Pistons every 1000 miles (forged pistons are now available for 750,s and last much longer than the origional yamaha ones. I have personally used these pistons for over 1400 racing miles.)
       Crank rebuild 1000 racing miles. My current cranks have done over 9000 racing miles using the same flywheels. (German made heockle flywheels.) Now being remanufactured here in the uk.
       Cases , Likewise the cases have done a similar mileage and I dont intend replacing them any time soon.
       There are approx a 12  to 15 tz 750,s (solo,s and sidecars) now being raced in the uk quite regularely and they are all using cases that are over 25 years old as there as not been any new ones available for many year. However that will change quite soon as the first batch of new cases is currently being made in france so hopefully we may see even more tz 750,s out on track next season.
      Rob
 

Still Rob, not for the faint of heart....or wallet!  ;D

I guess not but then racing any bike is not for the fainthearted among us. Just making the point that they are not as expensive to run as some would have us believe. Here,s a link to some pics of my bike for anyone interested, and by the way the bike and rider have a joint age of around  85 years  so you are definately as young as you feel!!!.  http://web.mac.com/rg500delta/iWeb/tz750-racers/Rob%20Hall%20photo%20page.html
  Rob
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2009, 10:18:48 AM »
Quote from: bucky katt on November 18, 2009, 12:24:35 AM
in the new issue of cycle world the TZ 750 was mentioned in an article, mentioned how Kenny Roberts tried to ride it, and it sounds positively brutally dangerous...........i'd love a ride on one, bet theyre not cheap to acquire or own though.

There you go found one for you  ;D I won't charge a commission you may need every last cent to pay for it  ;)
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2009, 12:09:15 PM »
Quote from: ow31 on November 21, 2009, 03:23:04 PM
Quote from: bwaller on November 21, 2009, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: ow31 on November 21, 2009, 09:48:17 AM
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Definately not cheap to run!!!

Rings every 4th race
pistons with every 2nd set of rings
crank every season
Crankcases every 2nd crank

Not to mention shares in NGK and trannies!!!

   They were never that expensive to run even when I had my first one back in 1982.
    Now with modern oils and better parts available it is more like
       Rings every 500 miles
       Pistons every 1000 miles (forged pistons are now available for 750,s and last much longer than the origional yamaha ones. I have personally used these pistons for over 1400 racing miles.)
       Crank rebuild 1000 racing miles. My current cranks have done over 9000 racing miles using the same flywheels. (German made heockle flywheels.) Now being remanufactured here in the uk.
       Cases , Likewise the cases have done a similar mileage and I dont intend replacing them any time soon.
       There are approx a 12  to 15 tz 750,s (solo,s and sidecars) now being raced in the uk quite regularely and they are all using cases that are over 25 years old as there as not been any new ones available for many year. However that will change quite soon as the first batch of new cases is currently being made in france so hopefully we may see even more tz 750,s out on track next season.
      Rob
 

Still Rob, not for the faint of heart....or wallet!  ;D

I guess not but then racing any bike is not for the fainthearted among us. Just making the point that they are not as expensive to run as some would have us believe. Here,s a link to some pics of my bike for anyone interested, and by the way the bike and rider have a joint age of around  85 years  so you are definately as young as you feel!!!.  http://web.mac.com/rg500delta/iWeb/tz750-racers/Rob%20Hall%20photo%20page.html
  Rob

combined age of 85 , that would mean they where still making tz750s  five years ago !!
hello you old bugger
who have you got to make the cases ?
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 07:44:36 PM »
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 11:58:24 PM »
yikes, thats about 1/3 what my house is worth.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2009, 09:20:22 AM »
A nice looking TD1C on there too.
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Re: TZ 750
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2009, 10:17:08 AM »
the 750 is too dear , they sell over here for around 15 grand and unless they have a very good history [ which can be verified ] there not worth much more.
the TD!C  does look nice and original
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