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Offline Hinz

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1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« on: September 16, 2009, 10:46:20 AM »
I'm in the process in converting all my hardware over to stainless steel and I thought I'd share some of my efforts.  I WAS going to try and sell Stainless kits but I just don't have the time.
Anyway, here's a spreadsheet listing the hardware, prices and links for a 1976 CB750K frame.  The hardware SHOULD be the same for '70-76 but you should double check just in case.
Each nut, bolt and washer has a reference number, if you click the reference number a link will pop up to the left of the applicable cell.  If you then click that link, a reference diagram will open in a new browser window indicating where that specific piece of hardware goes.  Also, I have listed the vendor's P/N that I used to obtain the hardware.  Just like the reference numbers, the vendor's P/N is linked to their websites where you can order online. 
Please note that this hardware is NOT exact JIC replacement hardware.  If you're restoring your bike to 100% exact factory OEM specifications, then this thread may not be for you.  I have also taken the liberty to replace some of the standard nuts with Nylon Locking Nuts where I felt they would work best.  These areas include motor mounts, steering components and other parts that experience vibration or would benefit from a locking type nut.

Anyways...here you go.

FRAME: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsJW59Xg-wu7dENNTmVOQ3gtck5Oc0xieGRvV0dLZmc&hl=en

Since I'm swapping my forks out to a GL1000 style, here's the hardware list for 1975 GL1000 Triple Trees: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsJW59Xg-wu7dEFrUkhWd2FMRWRKQ01NZk5qd0FCZ3c&hl=en

GL1000 NOTE: The GL1000 upper tripple tree has recesses machined into them to that the bolt heads are countersunk.  Likewise, the stock Honda "upper triple tree bolts" have a smaller bolt head (JIC) to them so if you use a non-JIC bolt won't fit into the recesses.  That is why I have a socket style bolt listed on the spreadsheet instead.  You may also notice that I don't have the handlebar mounting hardware listed.  I'm using Tomaselli clip-ons so I won't be needing those clamps.

Rear Shock Hardware: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsJW59Xg-wu7dFo4MFdLLVAwZmhVVWNTYTRremZIWFE&hl=en

Rear Shock Note: Since all the rear shock hardware is fine pitch, it's only available in Chrome.

I'm working on more of these spread sheets and will post them as I go.  I only feel confortable posting the spreadsheets after I've tried each bolt and can guarantee that they'll work.  
Enjoy.



« Last Edit: December 03, 2009, 07:16:31 AM by Hinz »
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Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 10:52:29 AM »

Very cool project. Thanks for this!  RR
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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 11:57:42 AM »
I know there has been some controversy over switching to stainless as far as strength goes.  I don't personally think I'll have a problem but of course ANYTHING can happen.  :o YMMV.
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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 08:30:42 PM »
Is there something like this spreadsheet for a 1978k? I just don't want to check all the length's,pitch,thread etc. on all those bolts.  At least the small stuff

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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 05:49:52 AM »
UPDATE: I've discovered that some of the hardware just isn't available in stainless steel.  The few bolts that aren't available in stainless steel are, however available chrome plated.
If a piece of hardware is chrome plated, it will be indicated so on the spread sheet in the "Description" column.

I have added the hardware spreadsheet for anybody swapping their forks to a GL1000 style.  The hardware spreadsheet for the rear CB750K suspension is coming soon.

The spread sheet has been updated so that the "Vendor P/N" is hyperlinked to the appropriate webpage to make ordering hardware easier.

enjoy.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2009, 06:44:02 AM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 06:45:58 AM »
Is there something like this spreadsheet for a 1978k? I just don't want to check all the length's,pitch,thread etc. on all those bolts.  At least the small stuff

I wish I could help you out but until i actually have a '78K in my posession to play with, I can't help you out. If anybody would like to donate me a wrecked '78K, I'd be more than happy to do the legwork.  ;D :D ;D
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Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 09:16:51 AM »
Find a parts fiche online, such as this one:  http://www.nyhondayamaha.com/fiche_select2.asp?category=Motorcycles&make=Honda&year=1978&fveh=2993

Click on the assembly you need hardware for.  They tell the spec for nearly every nut and bolt.

Funny enough, I just made my own stainless steel hardware spreadsheet for my '75 project.  For under $100 I replaced almost every single nut and bolt I could find on the bike (nothing inside the cases, though).  My local fasterner supplier had everything I needed.  Maybe I'll try bundling "kits" to help some folks out.  It sure would be easy if one could just buy a frame hardware kit or a steering kit from a fellow member, instead of having to repeat all the research and cataloging I've done.  And all my new stainless allen head bolts look good, too  ;)

Note:  I'm still converting the hardware, in the photos.  It's a work in progress, but you get the gerneral idea of the look.



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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 10:33:15 AM »
I've been using BikeBandit for my parts diagrams.
I looked at the one you posted and it seems to be similar.
You can't JUST go by those diagrams since they don't indicate thread pitch or bolt head size.  I have about $20 worth of hardware that I won't be using since I ordered coarse pitch instead of fine and because US hardware has different sized heads than JIC.  This is why it's very important to me that I KNOW the hardware I list WILL fit without question.

I'm just trying to keep everybody from making the same mistakes I have and keep from wasting money.

As for putting together a kit, I've been thinking about this some more. I originally didn't want to but...hmm...we'll see.  I'm starting to think that there's a nich for CB750 parts that the other shops don't offer.  I'd really like to start (or see someone else start) a company like MikeXS.com strictly for the CB750.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2009, 10:39:30 AM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 10:45:43 AM »
If you've already done this amount of work, if it was me i'd put together some kits and make some profit. I'm sure members here (myself included) wouldn't mind spending a little more than you did to compensate for your work and the ease of not having to order everything seperate.

Sign me up for a complete kit for the entire bike lol.
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Re: 1976 CB750K Stainless Hardware Spreadsheet
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 06:49:06 AM »
You can't JUST go by those diagrams since they don't indicate thread pitch or bolt head size.  I have about $20 worth of hardware that I won't be using since I ordered coarse pitch instead of fine and because US hardware has different sized heads than JIC.  This is why it's very important to me that I KNOW the hardware I list WILL fit without question.

I'm just trying to keep everybody from making the same mistakes I have and keep from wasting money.

I TOTALLY agree with this.  I have some incorrect thread bolts that my fastener supplier will be swapping out for me this afternoon.  Thread pitch is the missing piece of the parts fiche pie.

So, who wants a kit?  I'll come up with some turn-key packages for interested forum members.  Suggestions?  1) engine mounting hardware  2) steering head hardware, including the 4 mounting bolts for the indicator light panel  3) exterior engine case hardware -- maybe two types: one for just the ones that get removed most (points cover, clutch cover, atlernator cover) and one that's all-inclusive, including oil pan bolts  4) rear suspension + chain adjustor hardware  5) the miscellaneous package, to include things like foot brake lever stop and pinch bolt, shifter pinch bolt, etc.  I'd probably offer the packages in an allen head option (for applicable bolts - your probably don't want, say, your oil pan bolts to be allen) and a traditional hex option.
Rider no. 83 on the 2013 SOHC/4 Honda World Tour
Rider no. 228 on the 2012 SOHC/4 Honda World Tour
Rider no. 70 on the 2011 SOHC/4 Honda World Tour

my '75 CB750 cafe build photo documentary:  looking for the Lone Stars is like playing Where's Waldo -- enjoy.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34828040@N05/sets/72157615892537535/

CB350 twin, rigid meat grinder:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34828040@N05/sets/72157627005176764/

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