Topic: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.

[Sam Green Racing]

Damn   she's good now,  how good will she be when she's finished her training ?

 

Sam.

[dragracer]

Damn   she's good now,  how good will she be when she's finished her training ?

 

Sam.

Not sure about her but i'm always in training when it comes down to the sport of dragbike racing.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

+1!!!! Bill

[Jim F]

I am hoping to hear something from Dyna this week about the Dyna 2000 that came off of the Sam Auto
and also my own Dyna 2000 is getting checked out

get that sorted and back to Bills to install the 2000, change to the 50 tooth sprocket and some minor

jet changes and its back to the track

will keep all posted

Jim

[Sam Green Racing]

Thanks for the update Jimmy, seems quite a few people are having problems with the Dyna 2000 module just of late.

Sam.

[Jim F]

another member e-mailed me about the same problem ( Doctor-D) only firing on 3 cylinders
I hope they get this fixed and fast............

Jim

[dragracer]

Wow, now i know why i stick to my MSD ignitions. Sorry to hear about the problems guys. I'm sure you'll get it sorted out.

[Jim F]

If we continue to have problems with the 2000 then I will
Be calling you about the MSD system frank.
Sam, can we run that type of ignition?

Jim

[dragracer]

If we continue to have problems with the 2000 then I will
Be calling you about the MSG system frank.
Sam, can we run that type of ignition?

Jim

I use the MSD / MC3 ignition on my SOHC with the Dyna S ignition and Dyna coils. I also use it on my small tire Kaw. It has a low side and high side limiter but no capabilities of internal advance or retard. You can however add external components to control timing. This might be a deal breaker if you can't just set your timing statically. They do make the MC4 which has numerous functions includung internal timing ramps, auto shift by rpm, etc...  You might want to visit the MSD website and download their instruction manual for review. Its a great ignition controller but the price is higher than the Dyna stuff but it is an all in one box for "all motor" applications. Your other option is the DYNA 4000 but it is also limited because it does not use internal timing controls but has plugs for external devices to be added.

[Sam Green Racing]

 I guess we'll have to wait to find out what went wrong, probably made in China.

Sam.

[bwaller]

Ding Ding Ding, give the man a cigar. Sorry Sam I didn't want to be the first to say it, but that's exactly what this smells like.

This company has been a round a long while and apparantly continues to replace parts N/C, but when people don't have faith in their products anymore and buy elsewhere, they hopefully will get the message.

In the meantime, it's a bloody shame. OK rant complete. 

[Doctor_D]

another member e-mailed me about the same problem ( Doctor-D) only firing on 3 cylinders
I hope they get this fixed and fast............

Jim

Dynatech said there's no way that it's a problem with their unit, which I find hard to believe.

The problem moves between cylinders and between coils.  Last week cylinder 1 was barely running, now 1 is running but cylinder 3 wasn't - then it moved to cylinder 2 (at least they're on the same coil...).

With all the components testing out OK, it's hard for me understand where else the problem could lie besides the dwell function in the 2000 box itself.

[Jim F]

And there is only 1 12V wire that powers the whole system so it cant be from the bikes wiring harness
I have had on going problems with my 2000 and a standard Dyna S. All new components and bought with in a couple of years
I put the old one on that I have had for 20 years and it runs like a champ.

the China syndrome hits again guys.

I should have both systems back from being tested by Dyna so we shall see

whats MSD,s number?

[jaguar]

what is the warranty on dyna stuff?
ive had a 2000 unit sitting around for one of my builds for a long time now....got me thinking

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Jim,I have an original MSD 1 still in the box! Will check it out.Bill

[dragracer]

I've only had one MSD fail and it was an old MC2 unit that was on my Kaw when i bought it. I've sent a few MSD car units back for testing and it usually cost more to ship than the actual repairs themself.

I'm just not a fan of the Dyna ignition controllers. I was given 2- Dyna 4000's removed as working units when they were replaced with Schnitz Pro Series 2 boxes. Those Dyna 4000 boxes  will likely sit in the closet until who knows when...... Ummm, maybe i'll try one on my next project??

[dragracer]

Jim,I have an original MSD 1 still in the box! Will check it out.Bill

Hard to beat an MSD box. But remember, you will have to static time the bike without adjustability electrically. I say go for it guys.

[scottly]

I recall reading about a few Dyna S failures about a year ago. There was even a poll started. Thankfully, my old Gerex still works great; too bad they aren't made anymore.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

I dug out the MSD MC1 unit.Has rev limiter,auto kill,......looks like it would work fine!
Jon don't you use MSD also? You wrote in post or PM about it?
I bought it in 1992! $174.99.Time to use it I think!
Jim is Brian in the new shop? Dyno moved yet?
Dyna coming back soon?
I think Dyna S triggering,Dyna coils and MSD box........just like Frank!
I want to be in the 12's.....we will be next time out!!!!!!! Bill

[bwaller]

Ah more goodies from the rear of the batcave huh Bill? You might as well put it to good use.

I acquired a bunch of stuff from my wrenching days too, but most of it is junk!! 

[Jim F]

still no word on the status of the 2000,s as of today 6-12-11 (Mine and Sams as I sent them both to have them tested at the same time) along with a set of
coils and my other dyna s

Brian is open but not sure about the dyno

I will call Larry at Dyna tech tomorrow to see if he knows anything and will let ya,ll know

I think it would be a good idea to go ahead and set the MSD box up but wait to see if the 2000 is going to perform

 Bill and his 12,s.........

Jim

[Sam Green Racing]

He's already been there Jimmy and liked the taste

Sam.

[jweeks]

Bill,
     While waiting for Dyna results, could this be a good time to spend 2-3 hours and install the box that arrived? Motor stays in the frame. There's the 12's all season long!
     Yes, I use MSD on my bikes. The MC1 is an analog circuit box, very dependent on voltage levels. MC-2 only slightly better than MC-1. You get near 11.0 volts and you'd better be charging up the battery. If the voltage dropped below 11, it would still start and run, but not rev over 5 grand. Digital MSD-3 boxes for bikes are out there for years; they will run fine at least 1 volt lower without problems. (~$530 new) Advance curves that you can make on your laptop? MC-4 (~$740 new) Used units are hundreds less. Dragbike.com classified ads sometimes have used ones; Ebay sometimes has them as well. Good support for problems from MSD. Vibrations are the only avoidable killers; units come with rubber mounts. You can get into corrosion issues over longer periods of time. Maintenance usually prevents/avoids that problem. Hundreds of MC-1’s still running all over the world. They outlast most race bikes...  Housings are the common place for added "traction control devices", not that we need that!

                                                                                 JW

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Jon,I think we try the MSD!
That box? ...............maybe!
Maybe I send Jay 1000cc kit and auto cylinder! (have 2 spare motors)
All it would cost would be boring...has Carrillo's!!
That would be more fun!!!!! Bill

[dragracer]

FYI for Bill and Sam. The wife and I took the 7 hour ride up to Maryland International Raceway for the 4th race in the MIR series. I qualified #6 in Top Sportsman with a 7.97 ET. I had Boo Brown in the first round of eliminations. I had lane choice due to being lower qualifier so i put him in the left lane(he prefers the right). He left first but i ran him down before the 1000 foot mark, passed him and rolled out of the throttle for the win.

That 3 wins for Team Sam Green against the legendary Boo Brown. Umm, unfortunately i went brain dead in the 2nd round and lost due to a very poor reaction time.