Topic: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.

[voodooracer]

 Great news on the beast coming to life!! Have taken the Thurs thru Sun off. Hopefully I'll have the lock-up clutch finished in time for some test and tune Thurs nite. Be sure to contact me when you start to the track. I live only 15 or so min from there. Lookin' good!
 Keith LeBlanc

[popslady]

MR. HONDAMATIC: Thanks for the lesson on f-heads, got WARD PERFORMANCE P/S motor builder as chip makers and polishing.

LADY: When "yours" has a million in the bank and everything [ house,car,motorhome,quad, 10 motorcycles, cabin in hills of Ohio,Flordia home, "PAID FOR " retired ]  and all I need to say = buy me one of those new 1200cc paddle shifter HONDA'S call me a LADIES MAN. She bought me a NEW V-ROD and I gave it to my California son, sat to high in the air for me after racing bikes slammed on the ground for 20 years. This 65 year old lady knows more about 1320' racing on the weekends then most the folks we built bikes for at SMOCKS PERFORMANCE !!!  Never make a dial in change until she gives the weather report [ up or down, stay and look back ]. LOVE DAT LADY.

POPS BK911

[Sam Green Racing]

Chill out Rich, was just joking, the thread is getting confusing enough

Sam.

[Sam Green Racing]

Great news on the beast coming to life!! Have taken the Thurs thru Sun off. Hopefully I'll have the lock-up clutch finished in time for some test and tune Thurs nite. Be sure to contact me when you start to the track. I live only 15 or so min from there. Lookin' good!
 Keith LeBlanc

Thank's Keith, not sure if we'll be traveling thursday night when I land or early Friday Morning, It's down to how it fits in with Billy.

Sam.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Early Friday morning,might be real early!
we'll load bike,tools etc.Thursday night.Bill

[Sam Green Racing]

Early Friday morning,might be real early!
we'll load bike,tools etc.Thursday night.Bill

I think my flight touches down at 16.55 Billy, not received my tickets yet but that should be the time.

Sam.

[Jim F]

Just finished the oil temp caps. I went ahead and welded the inside for more material (Good suggestion Mike)
and taped for 1/8NPT good fit and with some teflon tap should not leak I made 2 of these so we can have a back up
Will be back at Bills this weekend

Bill I looked for the Dyno cover gasket and I cant find it but its only Wednesday so

Jim

[bear]

Great news on the beast coming to life!! Have taken the Thurs thru Sun off. Hopefully I'll have the lock-up clutch finished in time for some test and tune Thurs nite. Be sure to contact me when you start to the track. I live only 15 or so min from there. Lookin' good!
 Keith LeBlanc

Is the locker going in a SOHC Honda Keith?

Cheers,
Brian

[Sam Green Racing]

Brian, he has a gadget less than half the size of your zimmer frame that will rip your arms out.
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HGXKApOD2E4/SsDjFO8Nb6I/AAAAAAAAAO8/g_2zqU6GNuI/s1600-h/Picture+483.jpg

Sam

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Brian, he has a gadget less than half the size of your zimmer frame that will rip your arms out.
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HGXKApOD2E4/SsDjFO8Nb6I/AAAAAAAAAO8/g_2zqU6GNuI/s1600-h/Picture+483.jpg

Sam

Wow,what does that sound like and decibel level? ,Bill
Way to go Jim,I finished making F/brake line last night.Getting ready to bleed front.
Got connectors to finish wiring.
Order Pingel petcock tomorrow.
Neighborhood ride this Sunday?
Sam,what are the addresses of the tracks for practice?
Mirock we need to go up on Thurs.or real early Friday? I like Thursday if ready.Bill

[dragracer]

Brian, he has a gadget less than half the size of your zimmer frame that will rip your arms out.
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HGXKApOD2E4/SsDjFO8Nb6I/AAAAAAAAAO8/g_2zqU6GNuI/s1600-h/Picture+483.jpg

Sam

Wow,what does that sound like and decibel level? ,Bill
Way to go Jim,I finished making F/brake line last night.Getting ready to bleed front.
Got connectors to finish wiring.
Order Pingel petcock tomorrow.
Neighborhood ride this Sunday?
Sam,what are the addresses of the tracks for practice?
Mirock we need to go up on Thurs.or real early Friday? I like Thursday if ready.Bill

         
               
   
  Carolina Dragway info below:
 
 
 
 DIRECTIONS:

From I-20 SC, take either Exit #1 - Martintown Road or
Exit #5 - Highway 25 into North Augusta
to Hwy. 125. Turn left onto Hwy. 125, go approx. 10 miles toward
Jackson, SC. Just before you reach Jackson, there is an IGA/Citgo
store on the left. Turn left at the store onto Dragstrip Road.


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From I-20 SC Exit #18 - This is Hwy. 19. Stay on Hwy. 19 through
Aiken and New Ellenton. Turn right when you reach the intersection of Hwy. 19 and 278. Proceed approx. 3 miles & look for Silver Bluff High School sign on the left. Turn left here on DeSoto Drive. When you reach the next stop sign, go straight. Track is about 2 miles further on left.


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From Atlanta area, take I-20 East to Augusta, GA. Take Bobby
Jones Expressway (520) East to the exit 16. Turn right for 1 mile to end. Turn right on Hwy. 28. Cross Savannah River into Beech Island, SC. Turn right on Hwy. 125 to Jackson, SC. Just before you reach Jackson, there is an IGA/Citgo store on the left. Turn left at the store onto Dragstrip Road.


From Charleston area, take Hwy. 78 to 781, to Hwy. 278.


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From Greenville area, take Hwy. 25.


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From Spartanburg area, take I-26 to Columbia and I-20 from
Columbia to Exit #1.


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From Orangeburg, take Hwy. 4 to Springfield, then Hwy. 39 to
Williston, then Hwy. 78 to 781 to 278.


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From I-95 in South Carolina, take exit #38 (Yemassee) to get on Highway 68 going west toward Hampton. Before you get to Hampton, Highways 278 & 68 will merge. Stay on this road to Allendale. In Allendale at traffic light, go straight ahead to Highway 125 which runs through the Savannah River Site (17 miles thru site from unmanned barricade). Highway 125 goes all the way to Jackson where you will see the IGA/Citgo Store on your right. Just before this store, turn right at the store onto Dragstrip Road.


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PLEASE NOTE: IF YOU ARE TOWING A LARGE RIG, WE RECOMMEND EXIT #1 RATHER THAN EXIT #18 DUE TO CITY TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THE SOUTH AIKEN AREA.

 

Map:



Places To Stay:


Host Hotel

Country Inn & Suites
3270 Whiskey Road
Aiken, SC 29803
803-649-4024
Ask for Dragway Rates!

 

 

Hotels in Aiken, S.C.

American Hearth Inn
3935 Richland Avenue West (corner of US 1 & Bypass 118)
Aiken, SC
803-642-5828
$34.99 plus tax


Hampton Inn
100 Tamil Drive (Hwy. 19 next to Aiken Mall)
Aiken, SC 29803-4917
803-648-2525 or 800-426-7866

Howard Johnson
1936 Whiskey Rd. (Hwy. 19 next to Ryan's)
Aiken, SC 29803-6176
803-649-5000

Holiday Inn Express
155 Colony Pkwy. (Hwy. 19 next to Applebees)
Aiken, SC 29803-7483
803-648-0999

Ramada Inn
1850 Richland Avenue West (1 mi. from Downtown on Hwy. 78)
Aiken, SC
803-648-6821
$39.99 plus tax


Super 8 Motel
2577 Whiskey Rd., South
Aiken, SC 29803
803-641-8800

Hotels in North Augusta, SC

Deluxe Inn
610 E. Martintown Rd. (Exit #1)
North Augusta, SC 29841-4238
803-278-0355

Hotels in Augusta, GA

Days Inn
3026 Washington Rd.
Augusta, GA 30907
706-738-0131
All rooms have microwave & coffee maker
Double $39 plus tax
King $49 plus tax (Kings are on ground floor & have a Jacuzzi)

Days Inn
3654 Wheeler Rd.
Augusta, GA 30909
706-868-8610

Econo Lodge
4090 Belair Rd.
Augusta, GA 30909
706-863-0777

Hampton Inn-Augusta
3030 Washington Rd.
Augusta, GA 30907
706-737-1122

Holiday Inn
1075 Stevens Creek Rd. (I-20 & Washington Rd)
Augusta, GA 30907-3299
706-738-8811 or 800-343-4538

Howard Johnson
601 Bobby Jones Expressway
Augusta, GA 30907
706-863-2882

Motel 6
2650 Center West Pkwy.
Augusta, GA 30909
706-736-1934

LaQuinta Inn & Suites
3020 Washington Rd.
Augusta, GA 30907
706-733-2600 or 800-531-5900

Sheraton Augusta Hotel
Bobby Jones Expressway & Wheeler Rd.
Augusta, GA 30903
706-855-8100

Shoney's Inn
3023 Washington Road
Augusta, GA 30907
706-736-2595 or 800-222-2222
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
     
   
 
 
 
               
 
   
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[dragracer]

Brian, he has a gadget less than half the size of your zimmer frame that will rip your arms out.
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HGXKApOD2E4/SsDjFO8Nb6I/AAAAAAAAAO8/g_2zqU6GNuI/s1600-h/Picture+483.jpg

Sam

Wow,what does that sound like and decibel level? ,Bill
Way to go Jim,I finished making F/brake line last night.Getting ready to bleed front.
Got connectors to finish wiring.
Order Pingel petcock tomorrow.
Neighborhood ride this Sunday?
Sam,what are the addresses of the tracks for practice?
Mirock we need to go up on Thurs.or real early Friday? I like Thursday if ready.Bill

 Directions to Union County:
 
  Union County Dragway News: Welcome to The NEW Union County Dragway Website!
 
 
 
 
Union County Dragway
2102 Santuc-Carlisle Hwy
Union, SC
Track Hotline:  (864) 466-0000
Allen Carpenter  Email acarpenter@unioncountyscdragway.com

Directions
 
From the Charlotte Area:
South I-77 to exit #65 (Hwy 9)
Go right off exit ramp towards Chester
Go approximately 10 miles to the first light and turn left onto 72/121
Go to fourth light and turn left continuing to follow 72/121
Go 15 miles and turn right onto hwy 215 just after railroad overpass
Go five miles and turn right over tracks into Union County Dragway, just across from tall water tank.
 
From Union:
Hwy 49 and 176 both intersect 215 in Union
From the South, turn right onto 215 towards Carlisle and Santuc.
215 becomes two lane road
Come to a yield sign and continue straight on 215
Go approximately 2 miles and track is on left across tracks.

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[Sam Green Racing]

Thanks' for that Frank.

Billy, I take it you mean the weekend 5th and 6th.

There is racing on at Atlanta Fri 4th and Sat 5th but not sure if you will get in to test.
Phone Ray or Crystal in this link. http://atlantadragway.com/apcm/templates/contact.asp?articleid=6110&zoneid=40&navsource=contact&header=contact

Similar situation at Montgomery, they have racing Fri to Sun but you'll have to check if you can test.
Track Boss man. Jim Howard.  http://www.mmpdragracing.com/contact.html

Sam.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Sam,if the rear brake feels as good as the front,we aren't going anywhere until we release the lever!
Time to bleed the rear.What are the dates we're racing? Gotta stay on WHISKEY RD. in Carolina!
What's that smell? Race fuel and burning rubber!!! ,Bill

[Sam Green Racing]

Sam, What are the dates we're racing?

 

Friday 11th Carolina test,   

Saturday 12th Union race,   

Friday 18th test,   Saturday 19th and Sunday 20th race at Rockingham.

You were just checking to see if I could remember....wern't you

Sam.

[dragracer]

Thanks' for that Frank.

Billy, I take it you mean the weekend 5th and 6th.

There is racing on at Atlanta Fri 4th and Sat 5th but not sure if you will get in to test.
Phone Ray or Crystal in this link. http://atlantadragway.com/apcm/templates/contact.asp?articleid=6110&zoneid=40&navsource=contact&header=contact

Similar situation at Montgomery, they have racing Fri to Sun but you'll have to check if you can test.
Track Boss man. Jim Howard.  http://www.mmpdragracing.com/contact.html

Sam.

That friday at ATL you should be able to test. On saturday, just sign up for the bracket race and test during that time. Be sure to take "Jaye Bryd" Ryhnne out  in the first round-lol. As long as the bike doesn't exceed 120mph or run quicker than a 9.99 in the 1/4 mile, no NHRA license is required. You'll get one warning.

[Sam Green Racing]

If he runs 9.99, Mike Rieck will get the sack for making it to fast.
Although we are hoping to run high 11s, there's no guarantee that it will do this time as all the data I have (power to weight ratios in relation to ETs) for these 836s is for bikes with the manual clutch.
Before deciding on what the motors specification would be, I looked at the data I had to hand for manual clutch bikes and then asked Mike to build it.
I was told how much I could expect to loose from the crank to the rear wheel with the auto by Jon Weeks and much to my supprise it's about the same as the K.
The auto motor was built to the same spec as a motor that Mike had built for another customer that ran just under 12. Knowing that the auto is now lighter than the customers bike, In theory it should run that little bit quicker but the thing is it's not manual.
This is the only thing that we don't know, how will the auto compare with a similar spec K.

Sam.

[Retro Rocket]

Been following this from the start, its a real international effort. Great work guys and good luck to you Sam, hope you enjoy the trip....
Oh ...the bike looks awesome....

Mick

[Jim F]

Just finished the oil temp caps. I went ahead and welded the inside for more material (Good suggestion Mike)
and taped for 1/8NPT good fit and with some teflon tap should not leak I made 2 of these so we can have a back up
Will be back at Bills this weekend

Bill I looked for the Dyno cover gasket and I cant find it but its only Wednesday so

Jim

Occasionally I do have a lucid thought Jim. Convince my wife and kids.

We as husbands and dads are not allowed to have lucid thoughts.............This would make us look and sound smarter and then there would
be more honey do lists............I just give my wife the dear in the head lite look and she just goes about her business

[jweeks]

     There never has been a Hondamatic in the 9's in the quarter mile. If you go over 120 mph in the quarter mile, you need full leathers, not a Nhra license! A drivers license will be all that each driver needs. Full leathers are just are good safety gear to have, especially going over 100. (I was an IHRA tech inspector for two years)
     Sam never asked me how much motor to get into the 11's. I put on the dial-in board that I sent down to Atlanta what I thought it would run. The horsepower loss isn't the only reason for running slower. Cutting off 3 gears really slows down the bike. (5 speed clutch vs 2 speed 'matic) You can't launch strong from the starting line if you still have to be in the same gear to half track! High 1.8 second 60' times aren't strong even on street tires. There are clutch street bikes running quicker than 1.5 seconds to 60' on street legal rubber out there.
     Let's get the bike down the track a few times. Let's see what it does run. If someone has the Quarter Jr. software program, it will give you a pretty good approximation of what Sam can run. I'm not an 11 second man  
     If someone reading this novel on the forum and knows of someone who would like to help develop a replacement transmission for the Hondamatics, I'd be very, very happy to help out any way I can. There's a market for it beyond racing.
     Can we hear the bike, see the video clip this weekend?  I've got snow in the forecast for tomorrow and need some springtime thoughts...


                                                                               JW

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Jon,that should be doable,as long as Jim brings the camera.Or maybe my phone if I can figure it out!
Or I'll use me web cam.You need to hear it.What was on the board?12.28?,11's one day........we hope.Bill

[jweeks]

Yup, low 12's depending on the weather. Should be boringly quick. If you're test and tuning at an NHRA track, one of their tech inspection requirements is for a Snell 3000 or newer helmet. Dot helmets won't pass. You'll also need leather boots covering the ankle bone. They won't like exposed laces, but sometimes duct tape over the laces may let them through. Gloves with knuckle padding and wrist coverage will have you flying through tech. It's been a long time since mid-October when I made my last pass. Spring fever is coming. There's no cure but a winning time slip 

                                                                      JW

[jweeks]

Umm Snell 2000 stickered. Must be getting late.


                           JW

[dragracer]

    There never has been a Hondamatic in the 9's in the quarter mile. If you go over 120 mph in the quarter mile, you need full leathers, not a Nhra license! A drivers license will be all that each driver needs. Full leathers are just are good safety gear to have, especially going over 100. (I was an IHRA tech inspector for two years)
     Sam never asked me how much motor to get into the 11's. I put on the dial-in board that I sent down to Atlanta what I thought it would run. The horsepower loss isn't the only reason for running slower. Cutting off 3 gears really slows down the bike. (5 speed clutch vs 2 speed 'matic) You can't launch strong from the starting line if you still have to be in the same gear to half track! High 1.8 second 60' times aren't strong even on street tires. There are clutch street bikes running quicker than 1.5 seconds to 60' on street legal rubber out there.
     Let's get the bike down the track a few times. Let's see what it does run. If someone has the Quarter Jr. software program, it will give you a pretty good approximation of what Sam can run. I'm not an 11 second man  
     If someone reading this novel on the forum and knows of someone who would like to help develop a replacement transmission for the Hondamatics, I'd be very, very happy to help out any way I can. There's a market for it beyond racing.
     Can we hear the bike, see the video clip this weekend?  I've got snow in the forecast for tomorrow and need some springtime thoughts...


                                                                               JW

Jon, I stand corrected on the 120mph deal- leathers yes, license no. They got me at Atlanta Dragway a few years back on my 750F for going over 120mph and slapped me on my wrist because i didn't have my leather pants on at the time. Was rushing to make the first time trial and made a pass with my jeans- yeah, i know, not a smart thing to do under any circumstances. The bike never went 120mph in the 1/4 before that day. I would usually run 118-119mph consistently as the bike is mainly geared for 1/8th mile racing.  

But..... as i stated before, the rules do say if you go quicker than 9.99 in the 1/4 mile, an NHRA competition license is required Same requirement for IHRA competitors running 9.99/6.40 or quicker per my 2011 IHRA rule book. See below from the ATL website:

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Do I need to have a license to drive in an NHRA sanctioned event?
All drivers competing in NHRA Professional categories, Top Alcohol categories, Comp, Advanced E.T., Super Comp, Super Gas, certain Super Stock classes as defined by current NHRA rules, Super Street, Top Comp, Top Sportsman, Super Eliminator, Sport Compact, Snowmobile, ATV, Nostalgia TF, Special Fuel, and E.T. cars or motorcycles with a dial-in of 9.99 or quicker (4.50 to 6.39 for eighth-mile) are required to have a valid NHRA competition license and NHRA membership. Click here to download the license and competition number form.

[Sam Green Racing]

No problems with leathers boots and gloves, helmet is not marked Snell but is ACU approved and the AMA tech guy said it was to a higher standard than Snell. It dose have AMA sticker as well as ACU racing sticker and conforms to all EU standards.
I promise I will not run 9.99 or quicker or exceed 120mph.

Sam.