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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #700 on: March 12, 2011, 02:02:48 PM »
At Union County Dragway,Video and pics soon.Changes picked up,went down 1.85 sec in 660 ft time.Reaction times
.194,.104,.070.,60 ft .667 quicker.330ft 1.328 quicker.No red lights today,hey been 33 years! :-[ ;D
Pics soon,video a little longer.Bill
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Big Jim here,much help as usual,Frank's here,aka Dragracerwith his CB750F,he ran in the 6's in the 1/8 after literally dusting off the cobwebs ;D and of course Mr.Sam Green! ;) ;D,Bill
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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #701 on: March 12, 2011, 06:12:20 PM »
Mike,so do we.Lots of fun. ;D ;DMore little things to do,but definitely going rt direction.Bill
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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #702 on: March 12, 2011, 07:22:34 PM »
He's fallen asleep Mike, worked bloody hard all day. :D :D :D
Will phone you tomorrow.

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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #703 on: March 12, 2011, 09:57:15 PM »
At Union County Dragway,Video and pics soon.Changes picked up,went down 1.85 sec in 660 ft time.Reaction times
.194,.104,.070.,60 ft .667 quicker.330ft 1.328 quicker.No red lights today,hey been 33 years! :-[ ;D
Pics soon,video a little longer.Bill
The Stig's letting me be test pilot(guinea pig)! ;) ;D,Bill
Big Jim here,much help as usual,Frank's here,aka Dragracerwith his CB750F,he ran in the 6's in the 1/8 after literally dusting off the cobwebs ;D and of course Mr.Sam Green! ;) ;D,Bill

Sam Green Racing team member Frank Loney, aka Dragracer,  pulled off the win today in the ET bracket class on the old CB750F. Last pass had a 1.49, 60' time and backed off the throttle to take the win on a double breakout final with a 6.73 on a 6.75 dial. Yes, i was sandbagging a bit to begin with but i pushed my opponent and good friend Cedric Mingo out the back door due to a better reaction time on my part. Unfortunately for me, the rest of my Sam Green Racing team mates had already left the track for the trip back home to ATL prior to my final round win so i got no celebritory high fives from them.

It was great to meet Jim and Bill and see Sam again. The bike looks much nicer in person than on the pictures that have been posted. Every pass the bike got quicker and the rider more comfortable. The initial launch is a bit sluggish but that baby starts to pull hard once it gets to rolling. My personal opinion is that the springs on the diaphrams  on the CV carbs are to stiff not allowing the slides to raise up at the lower rpm's under a load. As a result the motor can't turn up against the convertor at a high enough rpm to lock it up for a hard launch. Add softer springs to allow the slides to rise easier with less vacumm at lower rpms so the revs will continue to rise to the stall point of the convertor. Or.... ditch those dang CV's and put a regular set of carbs on it just to test the bike.

Looking forward to seeing this bike get down the track again soon once all the bugs are worked out. Rockingham, here we come.

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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #704 on: March 12, 2011, 10:31:07 PM »
Awesome bike! love the lights and the sound is awesome!

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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #705 on: March 13, 2011, 05:54:25 AM »
At Union County Dragway,Video and pics soon.Changes picked up,went down 1.85 sec in 660 ft time.Reaction times
.194,.104,.070.,60 ft .667 quicker.330ft 1.328 quicker.No red lights today,hey been 33 years! :-[ ;D
Pics soon,video a little longer.Bill
The Stig's letting me be test pilot(guinea pig)! ;) ;D,Bill
Big Jim here,much help as usual,Frank's here,aka Dragracerwith his CB750F,he ran in the 6's in the 1/8 after literally dusting off the cobwebs ;D and of course Mr.Sam Green! ;) ;D,Bill

Sam Green Racing team member Frank Loney, aka Dragracer,  pulled off the win today in the ET bracket class on the old CB750F. Last pass had a 1.49, 60' time and backed off the throttle to take the win on a double breakout final with a 6.73 on a 6.75 dial. Yes, i was sandbagging a bit to begin with but i pushed my opponent and good friend Cedric Mingo out the back door due to a better reaction time on my part. Unfortunately for me, the rest of my Sam Green Racing team mates had already left the track for the trip back home to ATL prior to my final round win so i got no celebritory high fives from them.

It was great to meet Jim and Bill and see Sam again. The bike looks much nicer in person than on the pictures that have been posted. Every pass the bike got quicker and the rider more comfortable. The initial launch is a bit sluggish but that baby starts to pull hard once it gets to rolling. My personal opinion is that the springs on the diaphrams  on the CV carbs are to stiff not allowing the slides to raise up at the lower rpm's under a load. As a result the motor can't turn up against the convertor at a high enough rpm to lock it up for a hard launch. Add softer springs to allow the slides to rise easier with less vacumm at lower rpms so the revs will continue to rise to the stall point of the convertor. Or.... ditch those dang CV's and put a regular set of carbs on it just to test the bike.

Looking forward to seeing this bike get down the track again soon once all the bugs are worked out. Rockingham, here we come.
Frank,you the man! Thanks for all the help.Mike Rieck,Jon Weeks,a special thanks.Gotta get ready for Rockingham,we'll be busy,but oh so much fun!We get the bike to launch better and watch out.Pics and video later today.Thanks Big Jim!Frank,well see you @ the Rock(he had to win,didn't get to finish wifes bike)lol ;) ;D.Sam Green Racing takes win first time out!!!!!Frank,that's why you got the shirt!!!CB750's rule! 8),Frank we're proud of ya'll!Bill
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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #706 on: March 13, 2011, 06:15:01 AM »
Wow Wow Wow :o, what can one say, as soon as you rub shoulders with me you WIN  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Big congrats on your performance yesterday Frank, real sorry we couldn't stay to see the eliminations and your win.
It was great to see you and your wife again, it's a shame you couldn't get her bike ready in time, we might have had a different winner  :D :D :D
Looking forward to meeting again at the Rock.  8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #707 on: March 13, 2011, 08:11:24 AM »
We know where most of the challenges are. Don't write off the CV carbs yet. Sam's honorary crew chief is coming south Friday. It's going to be running quicker next weekend. That's a promise! I've run this type of combination for the last 25 years. That's why I sign this -

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« Reply #708 on: March 13, 2011, 08:15:12 AM »
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« Reply #709 on: March 13, 2011, 08:27:28 AM »
This is the first practice run at Union County drag-way (This track is really set up nice and the people that run this track are good folks)
We went from 4/5 on the ignition box to 2
did some starts and turned it to 1 with better results

Bill took the bike to the end of the first 8th mile and did some starts



This run is the turn around from the first one



This is Bills first run at the tree



More to follow

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« Reply #710 on: March 13, 2011, 08:38:22 AM »
This is the second run, Getting much more comfortable on the bike
times are droping and speed is increasing



Its all getting better






Very windy with a 8 to 10 MPH tail wind. This start was in 2nd gear (High)



Franks Winning ET bike from yesterday. What a great guy (Better have your wife's bike finished for next week)

Congrats Frank



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« Reply #711 on: March 13, 2011, 08:39:17 AM »
This is the second run, Getting much more comfortable on the bike
times are droping and speed is increasing



Its all getting better






Very windy with a 8 to 10 MPH tail wind. This start was in 2nd gear (High)



Franks Winning ET bike from yesterday

Congrats Frank



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« Reply #712 on: March 13, 2011, 09:08:55 AM »
More Pictures from Saturday





The next pictures are Franks bikes and friends Very cool old school bikes

That ruled the class yeasterday







enjoy

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« Reply #713 on: March 13, 2011, 10:01:30 AM »
I showed some of those videos to my wife and they made her smile so I just might get lucky tonight  ;)

Bike sounds great, not a surprise as the master himself put the engine together  ;D
Great work all you guys involved!

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« Reply #714 on: March 13, 2011, 01:19:12 PM »
Sounds great guys! Will it go faster in white  ;D
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« Reply #715 on: March 13, 2011, 01:44:55 PM »
Hey....wait a minute. You not letting Sam work on that thing are you???? :o :o :o
Sounds a bit risky to me  ::)

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« Reply #716 on: March 13, 2011, 03:00:46 PM »
Looks & sounds great Fellas  8), Sam hope you all have agreat time keep the videos & pictures coming  ;), cheers Mick.
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« Reply #717 on: March 13, 2011, 04:00:32 PM »
He's fallen asleep Mike, worked bloody hard all day. :D :D :D
Will phone you tomorrow.

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I'm the one with the English accent. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks my friend, your magic realy worked, couldn't want for a stronger motor.  8) 8) 8) as fcuk.  ;)

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« Reply #718 on: March 13, 2011, 04:14:28 PM »
Awesome bike! love the lights and the sound is awesome!

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Thanks Scotty, It's much nicer in the flesh. A lot of hard work has gone into it by a dedicated team to make this bike a success and too whom I am deeply appreciative and indebted to, the coolest bunch off sohc4 fans that you could wish to meet.

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« Reply #719 on: March 13, 2011, 04:16:15 PM »
We know where most of the challenges are. Don't write off the CV carbs yet. Sam's honorary crew chief is coming south Friday. It's going to be running quicker next weekend. That's a promise! I've run this type of combination for the last 25 years. That's why I sign this -

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« Reply #720 on: March 13, 2011, 04:19:25 PM »
Sounds great guys! Will it go faster in white  ;D

NO, we're keeping the bike black Jerry. ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #721 on: March 13, 2011, 04:22:41 PM »
Hey....wait a minute. You not letting Sam work on that thing are you???? :o :o :o
Sounds a bit risky to me  ::)

Watch it mate or I'll be calling Camcoat first thing in the morning. :D :D :D

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« Reply #722 on: March 13, 2011, 04:24:41 PM »
Looks & sounds great Fellas  8), Sam hope you all have agreat time keep the videos & pictures coming  ;), cheers Mick.

Thanks Mick, we'll have to get together at Aintree again, rekindle good times. 8)

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« Reply #723 on: March 13, 2011, 05:48:46 PM »
We know where most of the challenges are. Don't write off the CV carbs yet. Sam's honorary crew chief is coming south Friday. It's going to be running quicker next weekend. That's a promise! I've run this type of combination for the last 25 years. That's why I sign this -

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Hey Sam,

I heard from Keith today and he told me you guys may have found the problem with the carbs. Does it respond better now??? Whats the plan for further testing??

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« Reply #724 on: March 13, 2011, 05:55:38 PM »
Wow Wow Wow :o, what can one say, as soon as you rub shoulders with me you WIN  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Big congrats on your performance yesterday Frank, real sorry we couldn't stay to see the eliminations and your win.
It was great to see you and your wife again, it's a shame you couldn't get her bike ready in time, we might have had a different winner  :D :D :D
Looking forward to meeting again at the Rock.  8) 8) 8)

Sam. ;)
 

Sam,
I have no doubt it was crossing your path again and that nice team shirt that propelled me to the win last night. And to think, i started to leave the old SOHC at home and bring my other Kaw. I was even planning to take that nice team shirt off after we took our group picture to keep from getting it dirty but my other mind told me to keep it on. Yeap, it was the shirt that brought the win for the Sam Green Racing team. Look out world cause here we come!!!! I've got a feeling that before this season is over that lucky shirt will be worn and washed to a frazzle ;D.