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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #1600 on: August 29, 2011, 11:19:43 AM »
That might have p*ssed me off more than the posts. >:( ;D
I was laughing inside though. ;)
Why ya'll have to go and do a thing like that for when everything was going so well?
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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #1601 on: August 29, 2011, 12:04:23 PM »
Thats the main reason that Bill had asked me to weld a kick stand on, so the next time he pulls in
behind the nitro bikes he can run for the hills and leave the bike. I wasn't even behind them and I was crying like a baby
watching those bikes shake the leaves off the trees

He sure was mad but in a funny way when I got back looking for him.

Sorry again  Bill and I will buy you a hot dog.

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« Reply #1602 on: August 29, 2011, 01:03:28 PM »
Cause he had just taken his helmet off and gloves,drop helmet and push,not 500.00 helmets! By the time I got it propped on me head,it was TOO LATE!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( LOL,Bill
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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #1603 on: August 29, 2011, 03:51:56 PM »
Listen you guys, I really do think we are singing from different hymm sheets in a different langauge. Can someone explain what I have said to upset people.
I even PMed Mike asking what had upset him and got no rply.
Help me out here.

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« Reply #1604 on: August 29, 2011, 05:34:46 PM »
Dragracer,I guess it;s me or you.PM Sam please.I'm not as impartial or objective as one who's been watching Samauto's escapades!
Sam,we all wanted and still do want to help you realize your dream...you sorta bit the hand that feeds you.....and the ones that's been keeping Samauto dream alive.
My hands been bit enough,can't afford no more digits missing! ;) ;D ;D ;D,Bill
Valdosta here we come.I guess what we achieved? wasn't enough.......so the pressures on.Make Sam look good....you seen Sam? ::) Damn,Bill the miracle worker ;D Gotta go read some cam specs. ;D Bill
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« Reply #1605 on: August 29, 2011, 07:48:05 PM »
Ok here it is; this quote comes from a movie i simply cannot recall the title to.

PROBLEM: "WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE".

This unfortunately started from the moment the engine arrived at the builders shop without full build details up until the time that Bill and Jim's progress was not duly acknowledged this past weekend and culminated by the lack of knowledge by the mechanics/test rider that Sam had a goal to perform professionally in front of his fellow countrymen in Valdosta.

Solution: COMMUNICATE.

I didn't ask for this job, Bill made me do it-lol. 

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« Reply #1606 on: August 29, 2011, 09:06:04 PM »
Gotta go read some cam specs. ;D Bill
Bill, what cams do you have on hand? All the aftermarket grinds move the torque peak, as well as HP peak, higher in RPMs. Got a stock K7 or similar cam in the bat-cave?
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« Reply #1607 on: August 30, 2011, 04:39:15 AM »
Ok here it is; this quote comes from a movie i simply cannot recall the title to.

PROBLEM: "WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE".

This unfortunately started from the moment the engine arrived at the builders shop without full build details up until the time that Bill and Jim's progress was not duly acknowledged this past weekend and culminated by the lack of knowledge by the mechanics/test rider that Sam had a goal to perform professionally in front of his fellow countrymen in Valdosta.

Solution: COMMUNICATE.
Great movie Frank..........its from "Cool Hand Luke"

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« Reply #1608 on: August 30, 2011, 05:35:56 AM »
Cool Hand Luke with Paul Newman,racer and fellow gear head.You young'uns find it and watch,better than our show lately.Dragracer,thanks.Lot's of cams in the batcave,mild to valve benders!Never popped the box open last night...wasn't quite ready yet....cause I been thinking...therefore I am stupid! ;) Simmer down,if ya'll can go back more power to you.Now it's time for Team Sam Green to reunite and get it done. Let's go forward ........damn the power of positive thinking,why ain't it working? TIME,it takes TIME.Time,we no longer have,Valdosta close,practice Sam,Samauto will be READY,we'll get it done...but no more NEGATIVE brain waves...another old movie(Donald Southerlin)actor in Kelly's Hero's.No hero's here,just someone,no lots of people trying to help a man realize a DREAM!  8) Bill
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Re: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.
« Reply #1609 on: August 30, 2011, 09:22:51 AM »
Gotta go read some cam specs. ;D Bill
Bill, what cams do you have on hand? All the aftermarket grinds move the torque peak, as well as HP peak, higher in RPMs. Got a stock K7 or similar cam in the bat-cave?

The stock cam is not a bad suggestion to get the low end up to increase the 60'- Likely to see some suffering on the top end ecause the nicely ported head can't work to its potential. Certainly worth a try.

The only problem of playing with different combinations is Bill is now running out of time.

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« Reply #1610 on: August 30, 2011, 12:48:50 PM »
Does anyone have statics on Chad Isley's Hondamatic- both 1/8th mile and 1/4 mile times progressively????????????

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« Reply #1611 on: August 30, 2011, 03:35:16 PM »
Does anyone have statics on Chad Isley's Hondamatic- both 1/8th mile and 1/4 mile times progressively????????????

OK, I won't say to much in case I put my foot in it again and upset every one ;)
I guess it can't have been that bad though if Billy is poking fun at me biteing more fingers off. ;D I would rather bite my own fingers off than upset you guys. :)
From what I remember, Chad would run a qualy at 13.1 in cool no wind conditions, and dial 13.102 or 13.122. If the weather warmed up, a 13.142 or 13.162,  add a slight head wind, a 13.172 or 13.192, it was allways just a couple of hundredths.
At Valdosta last year, he ran a 13.3? on a 13.1? dial and was beside himself, Where TF did that come from he said :-\, these figures might not be Gospel but that is how close these bikes run. can the weather/slight winds be making OUR bike 3 10ths out.  :-\
I have just forked out nearly $400 for a new weather station to help with the dial in but it malfunctioned just after I got it and I'm waiting on a replacment, will get it over to you as soon as it arrives.

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« Reply #1612 on: August 30, 2011, 03:52:12 PM »
Thats the main reason that Bill had asked me to weld a kick stand on, so the next time he pulls in
behind the nitro bikes he can run for the hills and leave the bike. I wasn't even behind them and I was crying like a baby
watching those bikes shake the leaves off the trees

He sure was mad but in a funny way when I got back looking for him.

Sorry again  Bill and I will buy you a hot dog.

Jim

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« Reply #1613 on: August 30, 2011, 04:20:45 PM »
Another cryptic post ::) and you wonder why us English speaking people can't understand the Fcuk what you are talking about. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Off to bed now,that is where we English people sleep unless we fall over on the way home from the pub and we sleep in someone elses garden. (front yard to you Americans) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #1614 on: August 30, 2011, 04:24:42 PM »
Another cryptic post ::) and you wonder why us English speaking people can't understand the Fcuk what you are talking about. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Off to bed now,that is where we English people sleep unless we fall over on the way home from the pub and we sleep in someone elses garden. (front yard to you Americans) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #1615 on: August 30, 2011, 05:52:01 PM »
Opened box. No specs on cam, just assembly specs. Same as 295 in old RC catalog?  Need to be sure. Dead. man working. Bill Ok tired man working! Damn Holy Grail with no specs.  ;) Bill
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« Reply #1616 on: August 30, 2011, 06:08:48 PM »
Opened box. No specs on cam, just assembly specs. Same as 295 in old RC catalog?  Need to be sure. Dead. man working. Bill Ok tired man working! Damn Holy Grail with no specs.  ;) Bill
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« Reply #1617 on: August 30, 2011, 06:18:51 PM »
Yes the same as the 295 in the old RC catalog.

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« Reply #1618 on: August 30, 2011, 06:28:02 PM »
I like the return of communication among the principals on this project. Keep it up guys. Even small talk is healthy to acheive the end goal for Samauto at the Cup race. Everyone wants the same thing- just different ways of expressing our thoughts. 

Remember, little friendly jabs are ok but no poking in the damn eyes please, or you will be put in time out.  But no lock outs i hope-lol.   

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« Reply #1619 on: August 30, 2011, 08:29:31 PM »
Sam,cam is in.need to set lash and check.Theirs a new team name but you have to go where Mike and I've been to see it.Mike you funny. Sam,you happy now? LOL Bill  ;D Jon,Mike writes more inside the head than some of his posts,his,not yours! ;) Now maybe Orangeburg Sat,we'll see.Time to eat.Internet back up,maybe pics later.
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« Reply #1620 on: August 30, 2011, 09:59:36 PM »
Sam,cam is in.need to set lash and check.Theirs a new team name but you have to go where Mike and I've been to see it.Mike you funny. Sam,you happy now? LOL Bill  ;D Jon,Mike writes more inside the head than some of his posts,his,not yours! ;) Now maybe Orangeburg Sat,we'll see.Time to eat.Internet back up,maybe pics later.

Umm, what lobe centers did you set the cam Bill???????? I see the can of worms squirming now.

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« Reply #1621 on: August 30, 2011, 10:10:10 PM »
Is that the new building down the street or where the ear ring hangs?I've been to the arts center.I'm tired,it's in.Still got to adjust lash and check.RC catalog said 105.Bill
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I think....there I go again,that 108-110 degess lobe center be better.Anyone...everyone? ;D
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« Reply #1622 on: August 31, 2011, 06:21:17 AM »
don't ask me.........I just gas the bike up and kick the tires..........

Bill call me if you are still going on Saturday

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« Reply #1623 on: August 31, 2011, 09:44:11 AM »
Is that the new building down the street or where the ear ring hangs?I've been to the arts center.I'm tired,it's in.Still got to adjust lash and check.RC catalog said 105.Bill
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I think....there I go again,that 108-110 degess lobe center be better.Anyone...everyone? ;D


I recall Mr. Weeks mentioning something about setting it up per the cam card and then moving the cam an additional 5 degrees advance?? Not sure what lobe center you would have then.

I've got my RC327 cam set at 106 but i've also got a hand clutch bike.

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« Reply #1624 on: August 31, 2011, 12:16:15 PM »
 Sure hope to see yuus guys at O'burg. Gunna go spectate and pull for all my motorcycle friends, help out if I can.
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