Author Topic: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?  (Read 11915 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Harper

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 83
How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« on: December 19, 2009, 09:01:03 AM »
Hi everybody,

I'm winterizing my motorcycle (750 K5), and I want it to be resting nicely vertical (not leaning to the side on the side stand). But because I have a 4 into 1 exhaust, the center stand doesn't fit. Is there an easy, safe way to replace the function served by the center stand? When I adjusted the chain and worked on the rear wheel, I jacked it up and had a friend hold the bike steady. Clearly, that's no long-term solution, and pretty inconvenient even for short jobs. Any tricks?

Thanks,

Harper
1975 CB750

Offline Patrick

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,398
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 09:05:53 AM »
Jack stands.
1970 CB750 K0
1982 VF750S Sabre
1987 VT1100 Shadow
1979 Yamaha XS11
1969 Yamaha DT1B
etc.

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 09:11:05 AM »
Wooden blocks under each side of frame, pluss a few shims..
 Or block right side, then lift left side, and pop a 2x4 under the sidestand...
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline Alan F.

  • We remember the Night Rider, and we know who you are.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,343
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 09:32:08 AM »
I've been thinking of making a stand similar to a swingarm stand except it will work with the centerstand mounts, thoughts?

Apart from that give a front wheel chock like this a shot:  http://ww2.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=97841

-Alan

Offline Steve_K

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 923
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 09:33:10 AM »
I use a rear stand, but I have to remove the exhaust canister to reach the swing arm.  I use it on my other bikes and it works for wheel removal too
Steve
Steve_K

76 CB 550, 73CB750, 86 GSX-R750, 16 Slingshot
Old rides:305 Honda, CL350, 74 CB550
 05 SV1000S, 88 CBR600,92 VFR, 88 Hawk GT, 96 Ducati 900SS, 98 Kaw ZX6R, SV650

Offline CycleRanger

  • No comment about being an
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,418
  • Central Texas Shop Manual Advocate
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 09:38:20 AM »
Milk crate.
Do you have a copy of the Honda Shop Manual or Parts List for your bike? Get one here:
https://www.honda4fun.com/materiale/documentazione-tecnica
CB750K5        '79 XL250s     CL350K3
CB750K3        '76 XS650      '76 CJ360T

Offline andy750

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,938
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2009, 09:51:46 AM »
Pit bull stand. No centerstand on my bike.





cheers
Andy
Current bikes
1. CB750K4: Long distance bike, 17 countries and counting...2001 - Trans-USA-Mexico, 2003 - European Tour, 2004 - SOHC Easy Rider Trip , 2008 - Adirondack Tour 2-up , 2013 - Tail of the Dragon Tour , 2017: 836 kit install and bottom end rebuild. And rebirth: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173213.msg2029836.html#msg2029836
2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
3. Yamaha Tenere T700 2022

Where did you go on your bike today? - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.2350

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2009, 09:54:25 AM »
Alan, I was thinking of making one that fits the C-stand mounts, but is height adjustable....more of a builders aid, but also a stand for cleaning or storage.

 Cycle Ranger if you got a pic of a single milk crate holding up a CB 750 with a 4_1 header, I would like to see it...
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline CycleRanger

  • No comment about being an
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,418
  • Central Texas Shop Manual Advocate
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 09:56:19 AM »
Cycle Ranger if you got a pic of a single milk crate holding up a CB 750 with a 4_1 header, I would like to see it...

Oops, sorry missed that.  Yeah, milk crate is out.
Do you have a copy of the Honda Shop Manual or Parts List for your bike? Get one here:
https://www.honda4fun.com/materiale/documentazione-tecnica
CB750K5        '79 XL250s     CL350K3
CB750K3        '76 XS650      '76 CJ360T

Offline grandelatte

  • CB750K1-ish Frankenstein
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 65
    • Life is Xampericious!
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 09:59:42 AM »
Pit bull stand. No centerstand on my bike.

+1

Offline Harper

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 83
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2009, 12:33:26 PM »
Man, thank you everybody for the variety of options

I think I ought to just invest in a rear stand, though in the mean time I may just try the wood blocking and 2x4.

Thanks

Harper
1975 CB750

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 01:58:40 PM »
He did mention, it will not fit...
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline CycleRanger

  • No comment about being an
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,418
  • Central Texas Shop Manual Advocate
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2009, 02:05:32 PM »
Yeah, I suck at the internets today.  :P
Do you have a copy of the Honda Shop Manual or Parts List for your bike? Get one here:
https://www.honda4fun.com/materiale/documentazione-tecnica
CB750K5        '79 XL250s     CL350K3
CB750K3        '76 XS650      '76 CJ360T

Offline mycb750k6

  • "res ipsa loquitur"
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,332
  • Rocketman
    • photobucket albums
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2009, 02:15:04 PM »
Andy,
What model is that? I looked on the pit bull site and they have a bunch. Did you have to modify it all for use with the CB750?

Offline andy750

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,938
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2009, 03:06:23 PM »
Andy,
What model is that? I looked on the pit bull site and they have a bunch. Did you have to modify it all for use with the CB750?

Ill check on the model later (on my way out to dinner) but no modications on my part -you see the stand rests on the underside of the exhaust/swingarm. It works. I can put it up, take it down on my own.

More later,
Andy
Current bikes
1. CB750K4: Long distance bike, 17 countries and counting...2001 - Trans-USA-Mexico, 2003 - European Tour, 2004 - SOHC Easy Rider Trip , 2008 - Adirondack Tour 2-up , 2013 - Tail of the Dragon Tour , 2017: 836 kit install and bottom end rebuild. And rebirth: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173213.msg2029836.html#msg2029836
2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
3. Yamaha Tenere T700 2022

Where did you go on your bike today? - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.2350

MötleyRöx

  • Guest
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2009, 03:30:28 PM »
loosely attach tie-downs (tie-ups now  ;)) to the rafters.  
Use the kind that you just pull the loose end to tighten it and make sure the loose end is coming down from the rafters.
Sit on the bike and pull the tie-ups taught.  You don't have to make it go off the ground, unless you want to and the structure you're attaching to can handle it.
Obviously make sure that nothing is going to slide loose.  That is bad.
Here's how you can use one end of the tie down to self tighten over the grip or other places.   (By the way, that's a broken tie down so its missing the other end so I was able to get it around my bicycle frame no problem... but this method with good tie downs requires you to be able to slide the loop around and end of something, like the grips on your bars.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 03:33:34 PM by MötleyRöx »

Offline Industrial Cafe

  • Like a well oiled
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,372
  • [Brian] I've got something to say about that!
    • Undead Asphalt
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2009, 04:12:54 PM »
I stand mine up on the sidestand with a 2x4 under it and a small jack stand under the right foot peg bracket.  it's pretty much straight up.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


                                    Marla              .:71CB750:.CAFE

Offline Retro Rocket

  • Eggs are hard due too a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,279
  • ROCK & ROLL
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2009, 04:32:16 PM »
Quote
   How to keep bike vertical without center stand?

Ride it....... ;)

Mick
750 K2 1000cc
750 F1 970cc
750 Bitsa 900cc
If You can't fix it with a hammer, You've got an electrical problem.

Offline seaweb11

  • 1st Mate &
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,258
  • Ride & Smile
    • Playground Directory
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2009, 04:54:33 PM »
Andy, how would that lift of yours work if you did not have the 2 low pipes on either side?

Offline BobbyR

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,367
  • Proud Owner of the Babe Thread & Dirty Old Man
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2009, 05:58:54 PM »
The problem with shimming under the kickstand to level the bike makes it very prone to tipping over.
Dedicated to Sgt. Howard Bruckner 1950 - 1969. KIA LONG KHANH.

But we were boys, and boys will be boys, and so they will. To us, everything was dangerous, but what of that? Had we not been made to live forever?

Offline Industrial Cafe

  • Like a well oiled
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,372
  • [Brian] I've got something to say about that!
    • Undead Asphalt
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2009, 06:52:18 PM »
The problem with shimming under the kickstand to level the bike makes it very prone to tipping over.
but the other side has a jack stand under it. It's pretty stable.
With a center stand, only the front wheel is touching the ground.
 when I do this with my bike both tires touch the ground, but not with all the weight of the bike.
 Once I have the jack stand positioned, I have to lift up on the frame to get the block under the stand.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


                                    Marla              .:71CB750:.CAFE

Offline BobbyR

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,367
  • Proud Owner of the Babe Thread & Dirty Old Man
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2009, 07:15:46 PM »
The key is the jack stand.,
Dedicated to Sgt. Howard Bruckner 1950 - 1969. KIA LONG KHANH.

But we were boys, and boys will be boys, and so they will. To us, everything was dangerous, but what of that? Had we not been made to live forever?

Offline Don R

  • My Sandcast is a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,843
  • Saver of unloved motorcycles.
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2009, 07:40:34 PM »
Does a center stand fit when it is down? I have one that was frozen with rust and I cut the flare off the tube to remove it. But I can re-install it temporarily with a piece of 1/2" all thread rod and some washers. Remove before riding.
No matter how many times you paint over a shadow, it's still there.
 CEO at the no kill motorcycle shop.
 You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

MötleyRöx

  • Guest
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2009, 07:56:03 PM »
Don... if you don't mind flipping the c-stand down with a little rigged-ness, you could do that.
But, normally the back tire is off the ground at least an inch when the stand is down.

Racers do that trick alot with the old centerstand/makeshift rod maneuver.  
Edit: or at least many of the old racers I've been around.   ;)

Offline andy750

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,938
Re: How to keep bike vertical without center stand?
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2009, 08:45:27 PM »
Andy, how would that lift of yours work if you did not have the 2 low pipes on either side?

Yes the pit bull stand works by sliding under the swingarm - its not designed to work on the under 2 exhausts. The way I use it is too slide it under the swingarm and lift up. So the little arms on either side support the swingarm. The 2 lower exhausts do rest on it but they are not supported by the stand. Hope that makes sense. The rear wheel can spin on the stand. I use it for tightening the chain, lubing the chain and changing the oil.

cheers
Andy
Current bikes
1. CB750K4: Long distance bike, 17 countries and counting...2001 - Trans-USA-Mexico, 2003 - European Tour, 2004 - SOHC Easy Rider Trip , 2008 - Adirondack Tour 2-up , 2013 - Tail of the Dragon Tour , 2017: 836 kit install and bottom end rebuild. And rebirth: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173213.msg2029836.html#msg2029836
2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
3. Yamaha Tenere T700 2022

Where did you go on your bike today? - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.2350