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Royal Enfield Clubman
« on: December 20, 2009, 04:39:04 PM »
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/258187/images/clubman-static1.jpg
What do ya think? I seen it in my Dec. edition of The Classic Motorcyclist. Personally I dig it. Not sure if its coming to America.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/258187/images/clubman-action-4.jpg
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 07:52:10 PM »
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/258187/images/clubman-static1.jpg
What do ya think? I seen it in my Dec. edition of The Classic Motorcyclist. Personally I dig it. Not sure if its coming to America.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/258187/images/clubman-action-4.jpg

           They used to offer several different kits that you could buy AND change your stock Enfield over to a Trials model, a Clubman and I think there was one more. I went to the Royal Enfield site just now and could not find those, so, I guess they've been discontinued. It HAS been awhile since I'd been there. That shot in the link you provided, definitely has the later model engine in it, not much telling IF that will become a model or IF YOU have to Do It Yourself! Time will tell. ;)

           
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 08:37:58 PM »
I like it, however I have to think you could get the same look with a CB550, tho I am not sure what that bike sounds like or what CC's it is being a one cylinder and all.
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 08:54:15 PM »
I like it, however I have to think you could get the same look with a CB550, tho I am not sure what that bike sounds like or what CC's it is being a one cylinder and all.

           Well, as far as ccs go, they have the 500 or the 350 and that is it now, and for quite some time. Sound depends on the exhaust system. ;)
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 09:03:54 PM »


    Now THIS is MY idea of a decent Royal Enfield though. 1968 750 Interceptor 8) ;) Got the chance to ride a 66' Model and IT was an awesome ride! 8)

         
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2009, 10:01:33 PM »
didnt someone here buy a royal enfield?
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 04:08:35 AM »
didnt someone here buy a royal enfield?

   Yeah, Uncle Ernie did. ;)
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 04:14:38 AM »
Oh Bill I have in the distant past fixed Enfield twins and I hated them, they used seep oil because the engine was in so many pieces and the customer never wanted to pay the cost of making them oil tight, just #$%* about how oily they were.
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 04:30:33 AM »
Putting an alloy tank on one of the Yamaha sr 400,500, or 600 or Honda ft 500 singles would also look good and probably be a more powerful and dependable ride...

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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 07:37:15 AM »
Oh Bill I have in the distant past fixed Enfield twins and I hated them, they used seep oil because the engine was in so many pieces and the customer never wanted to pay the cost of making them oil tight, just #$%* about how oily they were.
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            Yeah, I've heard about the leakage problems. Don't know how much trouble it was to get them to NOT leak, but doesn't matter, I don't see myself EVER being able to get one anyway. I sure had a blast on that ONE that I got to ride now and then. I don't doubt what you say either Bill.

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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 10:37:38 AM »
I am pretty sure you can still buy the parts to "clubman-ize" your enfield.  The paper parts catalog has more than the website.  Also, ebay is a good source for newer Enfield parts.  There are some sellers in India who sell the same parts much cheaper because you're not paying the importer's bloated prices.

My father has an '04 bullet and it's an absolute blast!  I'm not sure how I feel about the newer engines.  His is the old iron block, 4 speed, with points and all the old stuff they used since the '50s.  What's great about it is that you can still buy every part because it's the same model that's been in production since the old days.  There are millions of these things in India.  Given the poor quality of switch gear and other electrics, as well as poor metallurgy of some parts on dad's bike, I'm just not convinced that the newer, fuel-injected alloy Enfields will be much good.  I hope I am proven wrong, because I really like them.  My dad's is great fun on the country roads.  Those clacketty old motors make so much noise that Enfield sells a "Loud Valves Save Lives" T-shirt! If I ever buy one, it will probably be an earlier iron block model, though. 
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 05:24:27 PM »
You can purchase all the cafe parts you need from Royal Enfield USA. They are good people to deal with..... here's mine.....sorry about the quality of the pics....

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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 06:17:29 AM »
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If someone is thinking of getting a Royal Enfield, I would suggest spending hours and hours pouring over this website; http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/

Strangly, it's a company-sponsored website, but the forum is quite honest.  It's actually a lot like this place in that the collective knowledge about these bikes is huge and everyone is sympathetic.  Several times, people completely new to motorcycles at all get a Bullet for their first bike and they are talked through how to change the oil, look for electrical problems, adjust the valves, etc.

Iron barrels are no longer made, but all kind of parts are available new.

The AVL  -going to next page as at this point the page is bouncing all over the place
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2009, 06:34:35 AM »
So- the AVL (aluminium jug) is an interim / up-dated model with some improved bits.  The E-start system is made almost useless because it was added on- not designed in.  The problem is a bit called the sprag gear , or clutch, with is basically what you turn when you pull the rope on your lawn mower.  If the engine back-fires or stalls out and reverses a tiny bit, the sprag breaks and you no longer have E-start. 

The there are the new UCE (Unit Construction Engine) that has gotten favorable write-ups in the mags.  The first year has had some teething problems- especially with the transmission- so I would not get a used one made in '09.   From everything I've heard otherwise- the people who have them love them.  They seem to be an amazing engine.  Almost (dare I say it?) "Bullet proof...".  Yes kids- you read that here first. 

Frankly, I would not buy a used bike because break-in is quite critical on the older models.


All the bits for a vintage trials, clubman, and cafe are available from the Royal Enfield importer.  An amazing array of parts.  You can buy kits or just parts- which is what I did.  Idian parts in general are indeed cheaper, but you usually end up paying for the initial savings.  You generally get what you pay for, I'm afraid.

Someone here in the 'States is playhing with a V-twin made for 2 350 jugs, and of ciourse there's the Carberry 1000 from Australia. 
Otherwise, Japanese-made singles are definitely FASTER and probably less maintenance intensive.  These are bikes made for commuting on English roads of the 40's and 50's.

The Interceptor leaks oil... Has anyone ever heard od any English bike that didn't?  (Actually, my AVL is still tight after 6500 miles).
Last- only the 500 is imported to the USA.  The Indians like the 350 because it has almost the same power and gets around 100mpg.
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2009, 09:11:38 AM »
Ernie the only twins I got to see leaked worse than Triumph BSA, and Norton. You Know if your going on a trip pack a quart of oil with you.
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2009, 09:30:32 AM »
Uncle Ernie's Pellet;




If someone is thinking of getting a Royal Enfield, I would suggest spending hours and hours pouring over this website; http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/

Strangly, it's a company-sponsored website, but the forum is quite honest.  It's actually a lot like this place in that the collective knowledge about these bikes is huge and everyone is sympathetic.  Several times, people completely new to motorcycles at all get a Bullet for their first bike and they are talked through how to change the oil, look for electrical problems, adjust the valves, etc.

Iron barrels are no longer made, but all kind of parts are available new.

The AVL  -going to next page as at this point the page is bouncing all over the place
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Re: Royal Enfield Clubman
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2009, 11:43:36 AM »
Ernie the only twins I got to see leaked worse than Triumph BSA, and Norton. You Know if your going on a trip pack a quart of oil with you.
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My first Indian was like that.  My 2nd and 3rd were fine. 
I never has an Interceptor, but I have a feeling a lot of problems -no matter what the make- have to do with who had it before you. 
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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2009, 10:18:16 AM »
i keep thinking i'd like to have one like that for running around the city Ernie, how big of a guy are you, is it a comfortable fit?
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2009, 02:34:02 PM »
I'm about 180 +/-.  Most people love them stock, but I seem to like more rear-ward pegs, so I put rear-sets on.  I've had several thinks about if I should have got the Electra model because it has a front disk and no side cases -which I took off to make more room for my feet with the rear-sets.  I also did the usual light mods to open it up a little. 

My inseam is maybe 29"?  There are people on the forum from 5'5" to over 6' and weighing well over 200#.  Big Don rides a Bullet as well as a Valkyrie.  Judging by his pictures, I'm guessing he's around 250 or more.   In general- I find it quite comfortable. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2009, 02:27:13 PM »
I have ridden my 2000 RE Bullet as much as 350+ miles in a day and it was very comfortable. I hear the stories about breaking them easy all the time. I ran mine like I stole it from day one. It is slightly modified and gets 100 mpg. It will cruise all day at indicated 65 mph and do an indicated 95 mph on top..... now how fast it is really going is only known by the Indian Gods. The main thing is to check the oil every time you ride it. On the iron barrel bikes the oil needs to be in the middle of the high and low marks on the dipstick. If not, it will smoke until enough oil burns out of the sump. At 10000 miles I plan on tearing mine down and rebuilding the top end. High compression 535 piston, hotter cams, racing valve springs, bigger carb, and a few more goodies. I am wanting to get it to the ton....... well close anyway.....