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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2010, 07:33:50 pm »
Hoi Howell, ciao Tg !

Hallo Heinz,

I found already a picture of your complete bike, very nice but to modern for real classic racing.


I will agree with both of you. Some components are too near to the younger times. Here in germany i couldn´t go to the VfV (Verband für Veteranen) events because their rules might be similar to your rules in the netherlands or in italy. I race at the "Grab the Flag" events. Their rules aren´t so rigorous. We have to use 18" wheels and the calipers must be one or two pistons, the two pistons have to be in opposite. Like the old Lockheeds. The first appearance of a bike could be up to 1978. Japanese 4-valve engines are not allowed. That are some points of their rules.
In my class the fours have max. 600 ccm, twins and triples are allowed to have max. 750 ccm. And all together are allowed an upgrade about 3% for services.

And then there is an other organizer in gemany, "Art Motor", where i could race with my bike. But their rules are much more unrestricted. Bikes could be newer and so on.

Autor: turboguzzi Datum/Zeit: 07 Januar 2010, 09:21:35
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very nice bike, is it a 500? do you actually race it in germany? some technical details about it would be nice.....
have to agree with howell, some components there would be too modern to be accepted in classic racing here in italy too.
I do like the fairing though! where is it from?

Fairing is designed and build by my self, also the seat and some other plastics.

I think i should go for a new thread where i could discribe some tech specs and so on. There i will also reply Paulages question. My engine is in some specs similar to the works of Paulage and Soos, and perhaps some others.

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2010, 11:45:39 pm »


Fairing is designed and build by my self, also the seat and some other plastics.

I think i should go for a new thread where i could discribe some tech specs and so on. There i will also reply Paulages question. My engine is in some specs similar to the works of Paulage and Soos, and perhaps some others.

Regards,
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Would be interested in the fairing, even if its way too long for me now, i wouold be hitting my knees on the rear edge!

Can you fit your legs behind the fairing? how tall are you?

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2010, 06:27:47 am »
Hi TG!

It fits really good to me. I have made it so  that it must fit to me.
Look at the pics below.
Both pics are made in Schleiz 2006 during my race. First shows a typical kompetitor. The guy who rides that GUZZI
is a really nice one and we get on well together. He was in this season my nearest kompetitor but in this race
i was something around 30 seconds in front of him.  ;D
At the end of the season he was 2 points in front of me. :'(
He made the third place and i the fourth.
Second pic allows you a closer look.
Your question about my tallness: Please don´t hit me, i think its similar to the older italians  ;). I have a hight of 160 cm.

Regards,
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2010, 11:33:59 am »
Hi TG!

It fits really good to me. I have made it so  that it must fit to me.
Look at the pics below.
Both pics are made in Schleiz 2006 during my race. First shows a typical kompetitor. The guy who rides that GUZZI
is a really nice one and we get on well together. He was in this season my nearest kompetitor but in this race
i was something around 30 seconds in front of him.  ;D
At the end of the season he was 2 points in front of me. :'(
He made the third place and i the fourth.
Second pic allows you a closer look.
Your question about my tallness: Please don´t hit me, i think its similar to the older italians  ;). I have a hight of 160 cm.

Regards,


Hallo Heinz,

The bike fits you like a tailor made suit.

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2010, 12:30:28 pm »
Heinz, you are OK....

at 190cm/6'4", I am the one who has a VERY wrong size for a CB500!


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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2010, 03:02:50 pm »
They often say I am the wrong size too!
Better sorry for failing then for the lack of trying.

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2010, 12:09:45 am »
Hahaha, Rob, What's the response you are wainting for?
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2010, 12:38:17 am »
Hahaha, Rob, What's the response you are wainting for?

Hey rené,

Just to not confirm that! ;D ;D

Cheers, Rob
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« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2010, 01:00:25 am »
OK Rob, It's not you. It's just a tiny bike. ???
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2010, 01:58:34 am »
They often say I am the wrong size too!



Hey Rob,
There is a solution, buy  a mirror just like the lady on the picture  ;) ;)
And the bike fits you also like a tailor made suit too .
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2010, 02:17:04 am »
They often say I am the wrong size too!

did you ever thought about moving up to a 750?

wait, it is a 750..... :)

maybe try 1000cc with 19" wheels?  ;)


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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2010, 02:50:07 am »
And now serious !  >:(

About my 500 racer  , I got a email from Ellis Moore that the gearbox is ready tomorrow.
I hope I receive it for the weekend so that the engine can build up completely.
The frame is now totally dismantled from all the parts and ready for spraying.
Now I am filling and sanding the tank ,seat, fairing and frontmudguard,not my most favourit job.
This several times so that the surface is real smooth for spraying.
I hope to finish it next week.
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2010, 04:10:30 am »
They often say I am the wrong size too!



Hey Rob,
There is a solution, buy  a mirror just like the lady on the picture  ;) ;)
And the bike fits you also like a tailor made suit too .

There was a time when it was all muscle............................................but that is a (very) long time ago. ;D
Better sorry for failing then for the lack of trying.

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2010, 06:59:48 am »
You guys should be like me...150lb racing snake ;D ;D  no hair to slow me down and even have removable teeth for further weight loss :D :D :D :D it's called being old :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2010, 08:28:39 pm »
I'll bet that's not what the women say.  ;D

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2010, 12:57:40 pm »
Today I sprayed the frame.
For the sanding and spraying I have made a plastic tent in my garage,otherwise it becomes a mess.


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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2010, 07:04:25 am »
Just received an email from Ellis Moore that the gearcluster is finished and comes my way.
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2010, 07:40:35 am »
Congratulations, another piece to the puzzle complete!

Do I recall reading you chose not to duplicate the 5 spd Yoshimura ratios?

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2010, 07:51:00 am »
Are you still biting your finger nails Brent ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2010, 08:19:48 am »
Nah Sam, I'm as steady as a rock.  ;)  Just being neighbourly.

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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2010, 08:21:26 am »
Have you heard how your job is doing ?

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2010, 09:05:32 am »
Ellis mentioned parts were going for heat treating after the holidays. Hopefully should hear something shortly.

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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2010, 11:22:28 am »
Congratulations, another piece to the puzzle complete!

Do I recall reading you chose not to duplicate the 5 spd Yoshimura ratios?

These are the ratios:
1st19/38 2.000:1
2nd 23/34 1.478:1
3rd 26/31 1.192:1
4th 28/29 1.036:1
5th 29/27 .931:1
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2010, 03:29:51 am »
This morning I received the gearcluster at home, fast service from Ellis Moore.
He did an excellent job !!!
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Re: Building a CB500 classic racer
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2010, 04:04:45 am »
It does look good Howell. Those large engagement blocks look indestructable, good work by Ellis.

By the way I got an e-mail from him yesterday that mine is also complete & ready to ship......wahooo.