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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2009, 11:26:11 PM »
but what oil should i use?  ;D
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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2009, 11:36:04 PM »
but what oil should i use?  ;D

Dyna beads of course...... ;D

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2009, 12:17:52 AM »
guys!! the thread was over several posts age.


It's over when WE say it's over!!!!! >:(


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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2009, 12:26:01 AM »
this is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends, some people started asking sh!t not knowing what it was and we just kept on talking sh!t forever just because......

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2009, 12:29:00 AM »
this is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends, some people started asking sh!t not knowing what it was and we just kept on talking sh!t forever just because......

That was beautiful.....sniff sniff...... :'(

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2009, 02:04:34 AM »
and then she knocked it over with her clit
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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2009, 06:16:56 AM »
and then she knocked it over with her clit

Interesting dating standard expressed here.



Is this her?

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2009, 06:20:47 AM »
I wonder if my friends would notice she was a guy If I had her over for drinkies?
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2009, 06:47:41 AM »
I wonder if my friends would notice she was a guy If I had her over for drinkies?


I don't know your friends, but are the kind that would consume enough to be photographed like this?

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2009, 07:03:28 AM »
what the hell it that up there about?
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2009, 03:46:57 PM »
I will let it drop, some people just HAVE to be right even when they have no real world practice in the subject.

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2009, 03:55:06 PM »
nice last word.  ;)  that'll learn 'em.

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2009, 03:55:32 PM »
Hi Ingo, i don't think its about that at all, Mlinder is correct and you don't seem to like that, No need to be annoyed, i don't think he was being a smart arse just saying it like it is. Some could say that "some people just can't be told" as well, there's no point in continuing to be annoyed because you were wrong. If this was an engine build thread { and i know its not} wouldn't you like someone to speak up if the info you were given was wrong...?

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2009, 03:59:35 PM »
and then she knocked it over with her clit

Interesting dating standard expressed here.



Is this her?

Naw man, them's just really big hemorrhoids.

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2009, 04:15:57 PM »
I will let it drop, some people just HAVE to be right even when they have no real world practice in the subject.

There is no 'real world practice' available on this subject unless you work for NASA. And, the work has been done for us, anyway, in that field. I don't need to reinvent physics or go into space with a swamp-cooler fan to predict possible outcomes with fairly reasonable certainty.

In any case, it's a good ol' strawman argument you are using.

"Since you can't personally put a fan in space, you must be wrong about my use of the English language."

What the hell are you talking about?

You made a flat out erroneous statement. Not almost wrong, not a little wrong, not kinda wrong, just straight wrong.

Whether you MEANT it or not isn't my concern. I have no way of knowing what you 'mean' when saying something completely contrary to fact.

I corrected you. Apparently you don't like being corrected, and are incapable of admitting your statement was, in fact, wrong. Then tried to make that MY problem by saying that I couldn't read between the lines of your completely false statement to read "always" as "a possibility under certain circumstances". I mean, everyone should know that when you say "always" you actually mean "sometimes", "possibly", or "probably", right?

And, to be honest, I know I can come off sounding a bit brusque, but it's only because I'm trying to fit as much information in as little space as possible.
So no hard feelings, Inigo, I mean that. I know, as I said, that my means of communication can be a bit off-putting, and for that I apologise.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2009, 04:21:35 PM by mlinder »
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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2009, 04:42:55 PM »
M, you kept on about the motor, I was not referring to the motor in any way.

You want to talk about strawman, then why keep bring up the motor when I never did say it would spin faster than it was capable? Guess we could call that smoke screening?
As for your nasa statement, you mean to say no colleges do work in physics? Remind me to tell my college that so they can shout it from the mountain. Besides, nasa doesnt know everything, if they did, we would have the so called warp drive though I prefer Professor Farnsworth's idea of moving space around the ship! Little futurama there for ya.
As for straigh wrong, no. Partly wrong I will accept as far wording goes. Maybe my biggest mistake is not taking this seriously enough for the "highly" scientific forum this is that is dedicated to solving the mysteries of the universe ;)

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I corrected you. Apparently you don't like being corrected, and are incapable of admitting you were, in fact, wrong. Then tried to make that MY problem by saying that I couldn't read between the lines of your completely false statement to read "always" as "a possibility under certain circumstances". I mean, everyone should know that when you say "always" you actually mean "sometimes", "possibly", or "probably", right?
I would have to say I have seen this shoe fit you as well. So how big is that hole in your glass house?
I mean should I correct a few of your statements here? For example:
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Rotational speed isn't defined by resistance, but by the number of oscillations per unit of time in the electromagnetic field.
That is incorrect. You add resistance and you WILL lower rotational speed. Unless of course you increase the power to the motor to overcome the resistance.

So all brusqueness aside, we all can be wrong. As I understand this, of course there are no hard feelings. No one is ever 100% right.

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #91 on: December 31, 2009, 04:52:49 PM »
Wouldn't the motors rev up past their "purpose built" specs and burn out very quickly with no resistance on them?

So I WAS right  ;D

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #92 on: December 31, 2009, 05:02:02 PM »
Inigo... please continue to make statements like "Besides, nasa doesnt know everything, if they did, we would have the so called warp drive"

u r one of the most hilarious people on the net!

Go watch more Star Trek.

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #93 on: December 31, 2009, 05:07:54 PM »
M, you kept on about the motor, I was not referring to the motor in any way.

You want to talk about strawman, then why keep bring up the motor when I never did say it would spin faster than it was capable? Guess we could call that smoke screening?
As for your nasa statement, you mean to say no colleges do work in physics? Remind me to tell my college that so they can shout it from the mountain. Besides, nasa doesnt know everything, if they did, we would have the so called warp drive though I prefer Professor Farnsworth's idea of moving space around the ship! Little futurama there for ya.
As for straigh wrong, no. Partly wrong I will accept as far wording goes. Maybe my biggest mistake is not taking this seriously enough for the "highly" scientific forum this is that is dedicated to solving the mysteries of the universe ;)

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I corrected you. Apparently you don't like being corrected, and are incapable of admitting you were, in fact, wrong. Then tried to make that MY problem by saying that I couldn't read between the lines of your completely false statement to read "always" as "a possibility under certain circumstances". I mean, everyone should know that when you say "always" you actually mean "sometimes", "possibly", or "probably", right?
I would have to say I have seen this shoe fit you as well. So how big is that hole in your glass house?
I mean should I correct a few of your statements here? For example:
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Rotational speed isn't defined by resistance, but by the number of oscillations per unit of time in the electromagnetic field.
That is incorrect. You add resistance and you WILL lower rotational speed. Unless of course you increase the power to the motor to overcome the resistance.

So all brusqueness aside, we all can be wrong. As I understand this, of course there are no hard feelings. No one is ever 100% right.


I wasn't wrong at any point in this conversation.

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Rotational speed isn't defined by resistance, but by the number of oscillations per unit of time in the electromagnetic field.

is, I admit, a bit ambiguous. I did expound on it later by saying

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The top speed of an electric motor is governed by the number of oscillations in the magnetic field.
The top speed of a fan connected to said motor in an atmosphere is a combination of oscillations of the magnetic field, how much power it makes, and the resistance of the spinning object (fan, in this case) to the atmosphere it is spinning in.

So I qualified the statement, and admitted to making an ambiguous statement.

And you are still straight wrong with you statement. Still can't own up to it, I see.

You keep bringing up weird #$%* that doesn't apply to the problem at hand. Like colleges sending #$%* into space, me needing to send a motor and fan up to space, something about the motor not really being a major contributor to the terminal velocity of whatever is connected to it, etc...

« Last Edit: December 31, 2009, 06:19:28 PM by mlinder »
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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2009, 07:10:25 PM »
so... that's a no go on the fan then.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #95 on: December 31, 2009, 07:11:30 PM »
No... its a go.
Just... nowhere. 

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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2009, 07:12:13 PM »
so... that's a no go on the fan then.

No, because it would explode.
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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2009, 07:12:48 PM »
k then
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: will these propulsion systems work in space?
« Reply #99 on: December 31, 2009, 07:16:14 PM »
k.  They will work.