Maybe I should have explained what I am doing and you guys could help better. I have already completed my first project. See the OPERATION BIRTH KONTROL thread and I am now starting my second project OPERATION BOBZILLA. I am looking at building a hardtail bobber and I am wondering about the dimensions of stock bars. I can get 10" over cables but if I dont know the dimensions of the stock bars I can't quite figure out what size bars I can use with 10 over cables. For example if stock bars are 4" tall and I use 10" over cables I should be able to use 14" bars. CORRECT?