Topic: Republican wins Massachusetts Senate seat.

[Alan F.]

He won by 5%

First a Republican governor in New Jersey, now this.

Wow, hope AND change..........

[Duke McDukiedook]

And the people will still get #$%* on and nothing will ultimately change in the end- nothing new.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

[MRieck]

And the people will still get #$%* on- nothing new.

The ruling party in MA has done a great job of that. A great example is imposing a 6.25% sales tax (recently raised from 5%) on alcohol.....after the 37% excise tax is figured in. Taxing a tax....only in Massachusetts.
 I don't think you can underestimate the impact of electing a Republican to fill the seat held for 47 years by Ted Kennedy. Some people are suicidal here.

[bucky katt]

i will not say how i would have voted were i in mass but i will say that i about dropped my teeth when i saw a republican replaced kennedy! thinking i was having another bizarre hallucination from the high fever, i checked again when i woke up this morning. wow not only a republican in the fairly liberal new england but in kennedys old district!

[Dead Bound]

I encourage all Dem. candidates to have the president come campaign for them.   

Sweeping Hope (of finding a new job) and Change (of your Washington address) coming in November.

New Jersey
Virginia
Massachusetts

[azuredesign]

The truth is that the quality of our lives as U.S. citizens feels diminished to many. Blame it on current government if you want. I don't think it'll make much of a difference who's in office.

[Ecosse]

And the people will still get #$%* on and nothing will ultimately change in the end- nothing new.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

The ruling party in MA has done a great job of that. A great example is imposing a 6.25% sales tax (recently raised from 5%) on alcohol.....after the 37% excise tax is figured in. Taxing a tax....only in Massachusetts.
 I don't think you can underestimate the impact of electing a Republican to fill the seat held for 47 years by Ted Kennedy. Some people are suicidal here.

you said it brother.

I encourage all Dem. candidates to have the president come campaign for them.   

Sweeping Hope (of finding a new job) and Change (of your Washington address) coming in November.

New Jersey
Virginia
Massachusetts

 

[Don R]

The truth is that the quality of our lives as U.S. citizens feels diminished to many. Blame it on current government if you want. I don't think it'll make much of a difference who's in office.

My thoughts exactly. Of the money, for the money, and by the money.

[JS550]

The entire government is failing us, the people. Both parties suck, one looks you in the eye & tells you they're going to f**k you, the other sweet talks you & says they care about you as they turn you around & bend you over. Time for a reset.

[Inigo Montoya]

Yeah I fail to see how some still actually think a republican is better than a democrat or vice versa. They are both out to screw us, they just use different methods.
Maybe of some people stopped thinking in repub/dem terms and started using their voting power correctly, we might be able to break up the 2 party system some. It sure would not hurt to do that. If people stopped voting purely on party lines(dont deny it some of you), our politicians might realize their jobs could be easily taken away.
My state has a democratic rep, I would feel no regret voting against him if I felt another person could do a better job.

I will say that I think it is funny that people allowed bush to wreak havok on our country for 8 years, yet expects the dems to fix it all in a year and then heaps verbal abuse on them when it doesn't happen. 

[Roach Carver]

yeah, because we know that we had a eutopic country when bush took over. It was just like a coca-cola ad. get real.

[Inigo Montoya]

it was not perfect before bush but I enjoyed my .99 gas!

[Roach Carver]

it was not perfect before bush but I enjoyed my .99 gas!

okay, that can be our middle ground

[BobbyR]

It is a good thing the Kennedy seat was taken by a Republican which wpuld have seemed impossible.
 It sends a message to the Politicans that they are all at risk and no matter how much money they take from this one or that one, the voters can turn them out and the money train stops running.

The people are pissed and they will continue to commit the unspeakable act of THINKING. I think people realize having one party in control takes away any checks and balances.

[JS550]

They both have been sh!t for a long time. One just hides it behind social programs and the other uses "pertectin yer freedom". Same talking heads, different gibberish.

[Inigo Montoya]

that's it right there js.

[Dead Bound]

One voting party is always pissed at the other party in office.  May be we can put in a third party to piss off everyone.  Then grab our pitchforks and scrap this whole goventment thing. 

Max Max SOHC Utopia.

[Ecosse]

It is a good thing the Kennedy seat was taken by a Republican which wpuld have seemed impossible.
 It sends a message to the Politicans that they are all at risk and no matter how much money they take from this one or that one, the voters can turn them out and the money train stops running.

The people are pissed and they will continue to commit the unspeakable act of THINKING. I think people realize having one party in control takes away any checks and balances.

bingo.

Yeah I fail to see how some still actually think a republican is better than a democrat or vice versa. They are both out to screw us, they just use different methods.
Maybe of some people stopped thinking in repub/dem terms and started using their voting power correctly, we might be able to break up the 2 party system some. It sure would not hurt to do that. If people stopped voting purely on party lines(dont deny it some of you), our politicians might realize their jobs could be easily taken away.
My state has a democratic rep, I would feel no regret voting against him if I felt another person could do a better job.

just so you know this was less about brown being a republican. independents who out number, gop,  dems,  and even dems, voted for brown. if it was just the gop he wouldla had his @ss handed to him. here in mass. the gov. is as about as corrupt as in chicago. the dems tried twice to change the law so only a dem would have the (people's) seat that brown now holds. that includes dear kennedy.

i agree we should throw out the (r) and (d) and i'm for term limits (so is brown btw). as for "reset" that's easy to say. but reset to what?

brown wasn't a vote for republicans it was a vote for his character and issues over marsha marcia coakley... and barry, nancy, and harry.

[BobbyR]

This just came out in USA Today:
Poll: Most Americans want more GOP support on health care
By Susan Page, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — A 55% majority of Americans say President Obama and congressional Democrats should suspend work on the health care bill that has been on the verge of passage and consider alternatives that would draw more Republican support, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Wednesday finds.
The findings underscore the unsettled prospects for health care legislation — which has consumed much of the capital's attention for nearly a year — in the wake of Republican Scott Brown's upset victory in the Massachusetts Senate race Tuesday. When sworn in, he will give Republicans the 41st vote they need to sustain a filibuster and block action.

An overwhelming 72% of those surveyed say the Massachusetts result "reflects frustrations shared by many Americans, and the president and members of Congress should pay attention to it." Just 18% say it "reflects political conditions in Massachusetts and doesn't have a larger meaning for national politics."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/usaedition/2010-01-21-poll-health-care_N.htm

[edbikerii]

Please people.  Don't go thinking that GWB was representative of conservatives' or republicans' values.  You may be surprised to know that many conservatives felt that GWB left a lot to be desired.

GWB took every opportunity he could get to GROW the Federal Government and expand its influence and intrusion into our daily lives, as well as the rest of the world.

That is exactly the OPPOSITE of Republican or Conservative values.

Conservatives want small, efficient government, low taxes, and low intrusion.

No true conservative would have stood by and watched the federal government pump up the real estate market through sub-prime lending the way GWB did.  I still can't believe he didn't rein in HUD and FHA with all that.  That was just pure fiscal suicide, and nothing at all like the fiscal conservatism that prior Republicans like Ronald Reagan practiced.

[BobbyR]

If anyone requires heart medication please take it before reading this, or read it at your peril.


I agree with ED about true conservative values. 

[MCRider]

Please people.  Don't go thinking that GWB was representative of conservatives' or republicans' values.  You may be surprised to know that many conservatives felt that GWB left a lot to be desired.

GWB took every opportunity he could get to GROW the Federal Government and expand its influence and intrusion into our daily lives, as well as the rest of the world.

That is exactly the OPPOSITE of Republican or Conservative values.

Conservatives want small, efficient government, low taxes, and low intrusion.

No true conservative would have stood by and watched the federal government pump up the real estate market through sub-prime lending the way GWB did.  I still can't believe he didn't rein in HUD and FHA with all that.  That was just pure fiscal suicide, and nothing at all like the fiscal conservatism that prior Republicans like Ronald Reagan practiced.

I agree with that as well. its my understanding though I don't have the cites at hand that GWB did try to rein in the housing bubble (not hard enough obviously) but was rebuked by members of Congress many of whom received big contributions from Fannie and Freddie. Nevertheless he succumbed to the siren call of a "house for every American" and backed off. He was also advised to let the experts at the FED do their job, which they didn't and its the way of our politics that the Pres takes that heat. Lots of moving parts. But bottom line he was not a conservative.

[Don R]

Term limits seem very popular with the candidates, until the get a taste of power and money.

[Alan F.]

Term limits or not, they're all up for re-election in ten months.  Many are announcing that they will not seek another term.

Vote the bums out.

I can respect everyone's opinion, what happens next is up to the voters as the founding fathers intended. 
(I don't think a 47 year career in the senate was a part of their original concept)

[Inigo Montoya]

1 issue ed, I know what "conservatives" look for and IF anyone in govt was actually a conservative, I would be surprised. There might be a few I suppose. However, GWB was the republican candidate TWICE. I could maybe see this for his first term but why the second? I am sure they could have found a decent candidate instead of backing GW a second time. I mean I doubt kerry/edwards really stood a chance anyways. So given that, apparently republicans WANTED GW back in for a second term. Suddenly the ship starts to sink and most of them cant distance themselves from GW fast enough.
That would lead me to reason that the majority of republicans are not conservative, they just hide behind the label.

Now ed, I am not attacking you at all. Not in the least. I value a lot of conservative things too, maybe not as radically as you do when it comes to social programs(though better controls should be put in place to reduce abuse). I just do not see the majority of republicans as being "conservative" like they pretend to be all while pushing through things such as the patriot act that greatly reduce civil liberties. A lot of these political issues some of us bicker over seem to divide down party lines instead of whether the issue is right or wrong.

A clean sweep of ALL representatives, senate and house, should be done.