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Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« on: February 03, 2010, 02:49:42 PM »

       Check out this 57' Oldsmobile with the J2 option. I rode in one back in 67' and I was Impressed. ;)

        

      

      

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Re: Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 03:54:44 PM »
While I did not much care for "muscle" cars, those rides from the 30-50's were really something. The looks were so amazing.

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Re: Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 04:08:20 PM »
The j2 was the tri power option maybe? looks like that's the case, three air cleaner studs
with a dual snorkel air cleaner. My grandfather used to race some locals who had j2s.
He always beat 'em with his supercharged Studebakers. Wasn't too popular with the locals ;D

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 06:26:20 PM »
arent they something like 394ci ?
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 06:30:41 PM »
arent they something like 394ci ?

      Maybe later on, but in 57' it was a 371ci 300hp with 3 dueces and an automatic trans. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 07:03:43 PM »
I had a 1958 Olds, back in '66 ;  394CI,  single Quad.  Heavy but still surprisingly fast.  I almost got the tripower J2 manifold carbs (and cam, I think) to put on it.  But, cash flow held me back.  The bone-yard wanted more for it than I could afford.  Just as well I suppose.  I had a lead foot.
I once floored it from standstill and put down 277 feet of rubber on pavement.  Only one tire though, since it didn't have a Posi diff.

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Re: Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 07:15:14 PM »
I had a 1958 Olds, back in '66 ;  394CI,  single Quad.  Heavy but still surprisingly fast.  I almost got the tripower J2 manifold carbs (and cam, I think) to put on it.  But, cash flow held me back.  The bone-yard wanted more for it than I could afford.  Just as well I suppose.  I had a lead foot.
I once floored it from standstill and put down 277 feet of rubber on pavement.  Only one tire though, since it didn't have a Posi diff.



        That's pretty cool TT, my Uncle Bobby had a 58' 4dr hdtp that was kind of a violet color (I guess you'd call it). He was the one who I got most of my early driving training from (some from my Mom). Yeah, he'd toss me the keys and he'd get in the back, lay down and go to sleep! :D He'd tell me to go for it and wake him when we got to where we were going, unless my Mom was going to be there AND THEN he wanted me to wake him just BEFORE we got there! ;) As I remember, that was a SWEET riding car as well. 8)
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 09:54:19 PM »
i bet those 394's were torque monsters too.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2010, 12:25:30 AM »
i bet those 394's were torque monsters too.
I think I remembered wrong about the 58 olds, I think it was a 371 CI motor.    The J2 option touted 312 HP (and around 10 MPG).  Us Olds Guys would hang out with one another.  I had friends with a 55, 56, 57, 61, and my Boss would let me take his new Black 64 Olds out on errands.  The 61 and 64 were definitely 394 engines and quite stout.  All were automatics.

But yes, both the 371 and the 394 were torque monsters.  And the 4 speed Hydramatic could make the big iron scoot.  Stopping was another matter.  ::)  Cornering was...  Pretty awful.  Body roll from weak sway bars, narrow balloon tires (and likely worn out shocks), meant you were better off in a fish tail slide, than trying to track around a corner in any sort of "line".

I learned to do high speed reverse spins in that 58 Olds, starting in an empty field.  And, then really screwing up the tires on dry pavement.  That car could take some serious punishment and still keep going.

About midway into my ownership, the car started to make a crunching sound while driving.  Turns out the drive shaft was two piece and it had a bearing near the center of it.  That bearing was going bad.  I had a pro mechanic friend check it out and said the bearing was going to cost way more than I had.  So, I asked him what the future held if it wasn't fixed.  He said that with the big motor, there wasn't much chance of it freezing up.  It will make noise until eventually it would wear into the bearing support bracket and fall out of the car.  Being the irresponsible, indestructible lad that I was, I still pushed it up over 100 MPH on a regular basis.  This only changed the timbre of the noise that the failing bearing made.  The following winter, the water in the block froze and pushed out the freeze plugs.   Didn't care.  I found a repo'd 55 Chevy 210 with a 327 in it, completely reupholstered inside and new paint outside, for $225.  The wailing engine and far less weight (then the Olds) made it a much faster street racer.  Though it wasn't nearly as reliable as the Olds.  In the long run, it cost me much more than the Olds (3 transmissions, 4 rear ends).  But, the Chevy forced me to become a much better mechanic, because of all the repair work it needed.  Then again, I was racing it a LOT.  And, that tends to break things.  The old Chevys were fairly durable if you treated them normally.  Not so, if you punish them.  And, I sure punished cars in those days.  The Olds was the most durable of all the cars I owned before going into the Navy.

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 01:24:33 AM »
Here's a J2  57 Olds.  How can you pass this bargain up?   ;D ;D
http://www.oldride.com/classic_cars/928350.html
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Re: Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 04:17:34 AM »



  I ALSO thought the '64 Olds 2dr hdtp (red) was one of the prettiest cars around! Can't seem to find a good photo online. F-85 (Cutlas) was pretty choice as well. 8) ;)
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 10:55:29 PM »
Back in the 60's my 40 chevy coupe reportedly had a 303 olds with 2 carbs. They used a packard trans because it fit the olds bellhousing and the chevy torquetube. You could use a ford floor shift on it too. It was the cheap model master 85 with paralel leaf springs all around. When I got it there were 46 leaves total in the car. set up to race but really. It had an olds rear when I got it and push button drive from a hemi torqueflite combo that had been removed.
 Years back I found a jeepster with a 303 olds and 2 carbs from around here too, I always figured it was the engine from my coupe.
 You could also install an olds engine in a Chevy by using a GMC transmission because back then GMC's came with olds engines. Look it up.
 
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Re: Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2010, 02:47:28 AM »
Back in the 60's my 40 chevy coupe reportedly had a 303 olds with 2 carbs. They used a packard trans because it fit the olds bellhousing and the chevy torquetube. You could use a ford floor shift on it too. It was the cheap model master 85 with paralel leaf springs all around. When I got it there were 46 leaves total in the car. set up to race but really. It had an olds rear when I got it and push button drive from a hemi torqueflite combo that had been removed.
 Years back I found a jeepster with a 303 olds and 2 carbs from around here too, I always figured it was the engine from my coupe.
 You could also install an olds engine in a Chevy by using a GMC transmission because back then GMC's came with olds engines. Look it up.
 

  Sounds pretty wicked to me! And, I had heard about the GMC engines myself. I was thinking my brother's '56 GMC had a Pontiac engine in it and that I had heard about some with Cadillac engines as well. Can't confirm the Cadillac ones, but I saw the one with the Pontiac in there and it looked factory.

     I found this, concerning the Pontiac Engines:

     from: http://1955gmc.com/

      GMC made somewhere around 1000 of these trucks in four years this makes them rare, in 1955 around 300 were made. GMC used different running gear than the Chevy trucks and the interiors were different. The 6 cyl motors were GMC and the V8 motors were Pontiac design Pontiac has always had a relationship with GMC and in 1955 the new Pontiac V8 motor was shared with them. A 288 cubic inch motor was used in the trucks and 1955 is the start a long run with this motor for Pontiac.
  My truck came from the factory with a 288 coupled to a four speed Hydra-Matic transmission and I am restoring it with this combination it is a New England truck and was made in Pontiac Michigan.

      Also  saw this:

     

     
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Re: Anyone Heard Of The Oldsmobile J2 Option?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2010, 09:36:01 PM »
I really like that GMC front end. My old 40 chevy has a 350 chevy with a 4 speed but I keep thinking buick 425 nailhead or 389 and up early pontiac. In school I had a Buick wildcat 2 door hardtop with the 425, Soon, I had to get a VW to drive to save my drivers license. That buick would keep up with a 389 tri-power GTO
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2010, 12:07:17 PM »
I really like that GMC front end. My old 40 chevy has a 350 chevy with a 4 speed but I keep thinking buick 425 nailhead or 389 and up early pontiac. In school I had a Buick wildcat 2 door hardtop with the 425, Soon, I had to get a VW to drive to save my drivers license. That buick would keep up with a 389 tri-power GTO

           Yeah, there were several cars out there, back then, that would give the "Select Ones" fits! The Wildcat was one of them. Some folks didn't take the Buick GSX seriously either. I think they thought it was all paint and stripes. I saw a nice sounding GTO get his doors blown off by a seemingly "Docile" GSX! ;D 8)  That GTO didn't even know what happened! :D

 

   

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