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Offline GEORGES

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 05:04:10 AM »
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2010, 05:18:30 AM »
For Cavebear, may be to dream ? you have a very rare frame in USA i think, you can built a special bike, i'm sure.

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2010, 07:55:38 PM »
georges, is that a lotus/ caterham of yours?  :o

love your pictures!
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2010, 12:08:35 AM »
No the last bike it's not mine

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2010, 06:14:56 AM »
hello jojo

yes hello forum

hello cavebear ok moi qui t es vendu cadre martin france usa via ebay
 .. ok

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2010, 06:23:08 AM »
CADRE MARTIN




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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2010, 09:38:02 AM »
i am starting to believe they are not that rare.....  ;)

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2010, 10:03:58 AM »
A lot of work and money to finish this one $$$$

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2010, 11:15:26 AM »
CADRE MARTIN





avec des images comme ça je vous offre un accueil très gros sur le forum!  ;D



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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2010, 09:58:24 AM »
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2010, 10:25:50 AM »
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This needs discussion! Fiberglass oil tanks? Any opinions? Any real-world experience? Anyone?  RR

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2010, 10:57:58 AM »

Looks like Spiller/Spyker has been very busy! Very creative designs.
 
I'd still like to see some discussion on the merits/dangers of FRP oil tanks. RR

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2010, 11:27:41 AM »
forgive the greenhorn posing a question but why would a 'glass oil tank be any better/worse than a 'glass fuel tank?

also, is it fiberglass (glassfibre for our euro friends) or some other plastic material?
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2010, 11:52:38 AM »
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2010, 01:22:16 PM »
Yes, in french langage :

Polyester = Fibre de verre

In english

Fibre de verre = Fiber glass

Not simple glass or a glass to drinck. ;)

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2010, 01:41:45 PM »
if that's similar enough to polyethylene, fuel cells for race cars are made from it, then why not oil tanks?
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2010, 01:56:52 PM »
Georges,

      I was thinking about turning the backbone tube into an oil tank like an early Egli. How do feel about that idea?

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2010, 02:03:47 PM »
bad idea.

# you need an oil tank with more than 3 litres capacity.
# if the oil tank is horizontal from front to rear, the engine will suffer oil either under braking or under accelerating (as it was in the early eglis  ;D )

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2010, 02:18:16 PM »
Hello Cavebear,

May be it's a good idéa, but i newer saw an old frame MARTIN like this system, i don't know if you can drill the beam ?

I think it's more easy to put an additional tank.

Ask to EGLI, he know lot about EGLI and MARTIN frame.

In this pics you see a new frame that Georges MARTIN sail now he have like Egli frame a tank for oil in the beam.






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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2010, 02:24:36 PM »
Hello mec,

I'ts a good answer, look at the frame pic there is an other black small tank ? may be to eliminate this problem.

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2010, 03:20:27 PM »
Thanks for the input everybody. I'd like to know what that oil tank costs. If anybody could give me the websites or email addresses of someone who has or makes parts for the Martin I would appreciate it. I will start posting photos next week as I start doing the trial assembly. I intend to have the finished bike weigh between 350 and 375 pounds when complete. I'll show how as the build progresses. 
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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2010, 05:05:34 PM »
George,

Just curious but any idea how much that MARTIN frame costs?

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2010, 11:40:11 PM »
Hello Andy,

The price is near 3000 €, without paint or chromium, but with all parts you see on the picture.

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Re: Racing project with MARTIN frame for 500 HONDA Four
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2010, 11:58:38 PM »
Hello mec,

I'ts a good answer, look at the frame pic there is an other black small tank ? may be to eliminate this problem.

hello,
this small "hopper tank" does minimize this problem (but cannot solve the problem). it seems that this tank makes the problems in turns. why not mount an oil tank which provides oil in "all" situations. the geometrical form should be like a pyramide, but standing on top, upside down, similar to the stock one.

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