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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 06:51:16 PM »
I've had a quote of about $1300 for a set of HM300's, just the pipes, no hardware. That ebay auction for the hardware is a good price. Here each new clamp is about $60 by itself. Don't forget the heat shields as well.

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2010, 06:25:43 AM »
come on, dude...everybody knows the K8 is the most sought after...

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 08:07:41 AM »
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2010, 08:24:41 AM »
The Diecast K0 is the most sought after CB750, after the sandcast. A really good diecast K0 will sell for $10K plus, or about twice that of a good K1, (my favorite) or K2.

The K3 to K6 (while even better bikes, technically) will go for under $3K usually, unless they're "as new".

The F0 and F1 will go for less again, (great bikes, but not collectable) the F2/F3 is a hand grenade just waiting for a careless owner to pull the pin, so it falls into the F0/F1 price range. (cheap)

The K7/K8, while being the most "evolved" of all the CB750's, was seen as "too little, too late" by the market at the time, (whooped by DOHC Kawasaki's and Suzuki's sales-wise) and unless you're wearing rose colored glasses, a good one shouldn't fetch more than a couple of grand, tops.  ;D 
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2010, 08:38:35 AM »
according to prduction numbers the rarest is a 78 hondamatic, only like 1700 i think it said. in face all the auto models are rare, http://www.sohc4.net/index.php?q=content/cb750k-production-numbers
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2010, 08:43:19 AM »
Well quoting Raul CB750K1 "The most sought after..... is always the most scarce, regardless of what you are looking for".
Raul, I think I have to disagree with that to some point.  Even in the car world, the rarest in some cases doesn't always mean the most sought after.  So, does that make the CB750A the most sought after of the 750 SOHC's?  I wouldn't think so...

according to prduction numbers the rarest is a 78 hondamatic, only like 1700 i think it said. in face all the auto models are rare, http://www.sohc4.net/index.php?q=content/cb750k-production-numbers
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2010, 08:50:07 AM »
I would say the most sought after is what demands the highest price.  Supply and demand.  There might be things scarcer but less people want them. 
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2010, 08:52:16 AM »
Agree...
I would say the most sought after is what demands the highest price.  Supply and demand.  There might be things scarcer but less people want them. 

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2010, 09:00:00 AM »
Yes I agree with the last post..
 rarity & desireability.. 2 different things.. Polenisian Blue 71s or 72s are rare, but tou wint see K0 prices on then, nor the autos..


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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2010, 09:04:19 AM »
Point well taken.
Yes I agree with the last post..
 rarity & desireability.. 2 different things.. Polenisian Blue 71s or 72s are rare, but tou wint see K0 prices on then, nor the autos..


 Was it Dick Mann that said, then CRs would have been faster if we had painted them  CANDY BACCHUS OLIVE, but Fugio nixed the idea... :o   ???

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2010, 09:14:04 AM »
I would say the most sought after is what demands the highest price.  Supply and demand.  There might be things scarcer but less people want them. 
Yep, the most sought-after 750 may not be be the rarest or the "Best".  
(Personally I'd like to find a 78 750A in good condition, I think they're undervalued.)

Determining rarest is pretty easy if you go by production numbers.  (Or maybe paint color, or rare factory options.)
Determining "best" is a little more subjective.
Personally I think the K3-K5 was pretty much the pinnacle of the 750.  (not in terms of horsepower of course)
Sure Honda made "improvements" to the K6-K8 but pretty much most of the changes, imho, were to reduce cost, simplify production, or cosmetic.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!  ;)

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2010, 10:01:44 AM »
i agree with you cycleranger, i too seek a 78 auto. they just fascinate me.
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2010, 10:04:13 AM »
Murphy's law states that the most sought after CB750 is the one you're currently looking for.

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2010, 10:13:22 AM »
Or the one you're searching for parts for.
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2010, 10:52:43 AM »
Well quoting Raul CB750K1 "The most sought after..... is always the most scarce, regardless of what you are looking for".
Raul, I think I have to disagree with that to some point.  Even in the car world, the rarest in some cases doesn't always mean the most sought after.  So, does that make the CB750A the most sought after of the 750 SOHC's?  I wouldn't think so...


I have to agree with that statement. CB750A is rare but doesn't seem to be much appreciated.

This has been discussed before. I always have said how strange it seems, that being the last models the best in terms of early teething problems solved etc, the first models are always the most coveted. Common sense is that the oldest the bike, the less chances to find more of them, and therefore the more "collectable". Then, cosmetic changes are also something to have in mind. During the production run, changes in paint schemes doesn't always mean that the fashions changed that much year-to-year, but that they needed to change them in order to stimulate sales. Now, 40 years on, fashions have changed so much that the color we like more today may very well be the weirdest back in the day.

I am biased having a K1, but I think that the K1 is the best of them all. We are lucky that fragile items such as airbox and short chainguard were changed. We enjoy the luxury of having headlight shell and fork ears painted in body color, that was discontinued after the K1 in order to reduce inventory -and probably, to be able to change the body color right at the dealership in a matter of minutes, if need be. But, most of all, the bulky sidecovers of the K0 was redesigned and we enjoy a slim-fit sidecover arrangement. We enjoy the HM300 sound without the hassle of adjusting 4 separate carb cables.

I could live with some improvements brought back from the future, such as the petcock at the left side -so I can open or switch to reserve while keeping my hand on the throttle-. I think the idiot panel in the handlebar is more practical in order to replace blown bulbs, and the change in the front brake caliper mounting hardware makes it easier to fit a second disc. I also like the passenger rail, both for practical and cosmetic reasons, than the K1 handle. I could also live with a document tray under the seat and a seat lock. Never had really needed the lock, but well, you never know.

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2010, 12:05:10 PM »
Well Raul, all I can say is well done.  That's as nice put as can be.  Props to you  ;)

Well quoting Raul CB750K1 "The most sought after..... is always the most scarce, regardless of what you are looking for".
Raul, I think I have to disagree with that to some point.  Even in the car world, the rarest in some cases doesn't always mean the most sought after.  So, does that make the CB750A the most sought after of the 750 SOHC's?  I wouldn't think so...


I have to agree with that statement. CB750A is rare but doesn't seem to be much appreciated.

This has been discussed before. I always have said how strange it seems, that being the last models the best in terms of early teething problems solved etc, the first models are always the most coveted. Common sense is that the oldest the bike, the less chances to find more of them, and therefore the more "collectable". Then, cosmetic changes are also something to have in mind. During the production run, changes in paint schemes doesn't always mean that the fashions changed that much year-to-year, but that they needed to change them in order to stimulate sales. Now, 40 years on, fashions have changed so much that the color we like more today may very well be the weirdest back in the day.

I am biased having a K1, but I think that the K1 is the best of them all. We are lucky that fragile items such as airbox and short chainguard were changed. We enjoy the luxury of having headlight shell and fork ears painted in body color, that was discontinued after the K1 in order to reduce inventory -and probably, to be able to change the body color right at the dealership in a matter of minutes, if need be. But, most of all, the bulky sidecovers of the K0 was redesigned and we enjoy a slim-fit sidecover arrangement. We enjoy the HM300 sound without the hassle of adjusting 4 separate carb cables.

I could live with some improvements brought back from the future, such as the petcock at the left side -so I can open or switch to reserve while keeping my hand on the throttle-. I think the idiot panel in the handlebar is more practical in order to replace blown bulbs, and the change in the front brake caliper mounting hardware makes it easier to fit a second disc. I also like the passenger rail, both for practical and cosmetic reasons, than the K1 handle. I could also live with a document tray under the seat and a seat lock. Never had really needed the lock, but well, you never know.
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2010, 12:55:47 PM »
come on, dude...everybody knows the K8 is the most sought after...

lol. then i must be sitting on a treasure and didn't know it!
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2010, 01:29:30 PM »
And speaking of rarity, I think the sandcast may be rarer than you think.  Out of the original 7414 or so engines at least, many of them were destroyed by chain breakage.  On the Sandcast Only Owner's Club forum they have 291 complete machines registered and some off them have diecast or unstamped cases.  (Close to 1/3 of them aren't even in the U.S.!)  I would think that most sandcast owners would know of that site and would list their machine.  Personally the only sandcast I've seen in person since the mid-70's is the one I bought a couple of years ago.  A couple of weeks ago I was talking to a retired Honda mechanic of 40 years who strictly works on SOHCs.  He has hundreds, mostly 750's (his favorite was the K1 by the way) and except for one that he's rebuilding for someone, the last sandcast he saw was 15 years ago.  By comparison in the last couple of years I've a lot of mid-sixty's dreams, super hawks, black bombers, BSA's, Triumphs, etc.  I have no idea how rare they are but I would be surprised if there were more than 250 sandcasts in this country.  So maybe rarity has something to do with the sandcast being sought after.
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2010, 04:33:12 AM »
Hmmm, to me, it goes like this;

1. Is it an interesting object based on a historic development? Vote for the first model and up to K1
2. Is it an interesting object based on an investment point of view? Vote for the first models including K1
3. Is it an interesting object based on colour, changes of design etc? Vote for your personal favourite.

To me, it stops with the K4 model of 1974. Later models up to 1976 have those ugly big winkers. 1977 - 1978 are not into consideration. Since the sandcast model is so hard to find and pricy, I will say the red K1 is my favourite. I have a K4 model and this one I bought simply because of a fair price and low miles.
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2010, 06:57:33 AM »
I've got several K1's and really like the way they run and look but I quess this one is the "fastest"--- Candy Baccus Olive--- ;)  :D

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2010, 09:21:32 PM »
We K8 owners are the ghetto residents of the SOHC world. We ride along singing "we shall overcome" waiting for the day we can ride along with our bretheren as equals, and not in the back. "Let freedom ring"

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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2010, 04:42:46 PM »
whats the hubub bub,of course its the k1. ;D
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Re: What is the most sought after 750 next to sandcast
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2010, 05:31:03 PM »
cheap ones that run good and are full of sweet parts!

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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2010, 11:50:29 PM »

lol. then i must be sitting on a treasure and didn't know it!

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