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Offline jessezm

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Cam check on a CB400f without a running motor?
« on: February 18, 2010, 11:59:09 AM »
Quick question:  Is there any way to check if the cam chain tensioner works or is seized on a CB400f without running the motor?  On my current rebuild, I ran my bike only once before tear-down, and I remember a lot of cam chain noise and the previous owner said he had never adjusted the cam chain (bike had 5800 miles on it).  In the manual, it says to adjust the valves, set the timing, then adjust the cam chain while the bike is at idle by loosening the locknut.  But I've read in a lot of places that the tensioner is prone to seizing on these bikes and I don't want to get it all back together only to have to tear into the top end right away.  Any advice would be appreciated!

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Re: Cam check on a CB400f without a running motor?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 01:11:11 PM »
Take the tensioner push rod hole cap bolt off. This is a bolt facing towards the bottom of the engine, on the upper engine case front, above the tensioner lock bolt. Loosen the tensioner lock bolt. Poke something long and thing down the hole beneath the cap bolt, to touch the end of the tensioner push rod - nail, cut-off coat hanger, thin screwdriver, whatever. Now turn the crankshaft backwards a bit while lightly pressing down on your whatever. If everything is free the rod moves a bit upwards when you turn the crank backwards, and down again if you then turn it forwards. This is the tensioner blade on the rearward chain run between crank and cam flexing flatter under the chain tension from turning the cam backwards... when it flattens out it gets longer, pushing the rearward end of the "horseshoe" down and eventually the push rod upwards. Turn it forward and the tension is on the front chain run, leaving the rear tensioner run slack again.
If there's no movement in the push rod as you do this then the tensioner mechanism is likely stuck. The push rod may be stuck in it's bore or the horseshoe pivot may be damaged.

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Re: Cam check on a CB400f without a running motor?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 01:18:26 PM »
Awesome, Bodi, thanks.  Am I to understand correctly that even if not damaged, this cannot be adjusted correctly without the engine running?