Author Topic: modern classic honda (Read 17418 times)

MickeyX · « **Reply #25 on:** February 23, 2010, 01:34:04 PM »

That 400 would be great. There isn't much out there in the "between" sizes. There is 250 and then it pretty much jumps to 900 and over. There are many women and smaller riders, people looking for a town bike that could handle some highway time too, that would jump at that bike. The 750 as well. Who the hell is advising them on what USA buyers want, anyway?

I keep hearing the same gripes over and over at the MC shop, there's nothing to pick from in between, the V twin style is overdone, I don't want a HD look alike... and yet, they come out with a chopper long after the chopper craze has passed. WTF?

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2010, 02:43:03 PM »

Quote from: Schmthaus on February 19, 2010, 03:49:19 PM

Quote from: retro rocket on February 19, 2010, 03:48:15 PM
Prototype CB-750.

Mick

Where does that come from?

It was at one of the motor shows somewhere but i don't think its going into production..

Mick

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2010, 02:45:46 PM »

According to Wiki

In 2007, Honda Japan announced the sale of a new CB 750 very similar to the models sold in the 1970s. Announced was the CB 750 Special Edition (list price 798,000 yen) which is in the silver colors of the CB 750 AMA racer of the 1970s, and the CB 750 (list price 730,000 yen) in three color schemes reminiscent of CB750s sold previously. As of August 2007, these bikes have only been announced for the Japan domestic market.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #28 on:** February 23, 2010, 02:46:47 PM »

Well that's a wierd post. Sorry.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #29 on:** February 23, 2010, 02:56:15 PM »

That one has the old CBX-750 engine first used in the 80's, the tank also looks like the old BolDor tank, still not a bad looking bike...

Mick

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #30 on:** February 23, 2010, 02:59:00 PM »

The one I posted?

That is the Japanese only new CB750. Will only be released in JP because of the history it has there.

Because us stupids Americans cant's handles the raw powers.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2010, 03:03:04 PM »

Quote from: HavocTurbo on February 23, 2010, 02:59:00 PM

The one I posted?

That is the Japanese only new CB750. Will only be released in JP because of the history it has there.

Because us stupids Americans cant's handles the raw powers.

Yeah thats the one. There was a similar bike here in Oz using that engine, i'll see if i can find pics.

Mick

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2010, 03:09:03 PM »

Here ya go...

Mick

jeepster · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2010, 03:09:37 PM »

They've made the DOHC 750 Nighthawk all through the 90s...sure the side panels and tank are a bit goofy, but you get the power, the reliability, ergonomics.... I always wondered why more people didn't cafe them.

Personally, I think Honda's post SOHC engnes are so squared off and ugly that they need to be hidden by a faring.

Alan F. · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2010, 04:14:58 PM »

Quote from: jeepster on February 23, 2010, 03:09:37 PM

They've made the DOHC 750 Nighthawk all through the 90s...sure the side panels and tank are a bit goofy, but you get the power, the reliability, ergonomics.... I always wondered why more people didn't cafe them.

Personally, I think Honda's post SOHC engnes are so squared off and ugly that they need to be hidden by a faring.

I've got one of these, I'd do more to customize it, but it's an apliance...oil changes, plugs and filters....the odd chain adjustment, tire pressure and brake fluid. Ride, park, repeat. No personality and no soul, but damn is it reliable.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2010, 04:27:23 PM »

We didn't get that model but it has the same engine.

Mick

faux fiddy · « **Reply #36 on:** February 24, 2010, 01:49:45 AM »

Quote from: B.O.X.N.I.F.E. on February 23, 2010, 11:52:56 AM

They're making this. Not for sale in the US, of course

CB400SS

They made this for quite a while, but not for sale in the U.S. until recently. A friend just got one and it looks really nice.

I think that the cruiser market people buying Harleys would think that the brand had been tainted with road bikes. Kind of like Buell being treated like the red-headed stepchild at the dealerships.

MickeyX · « **Reply #37 on:** February 24, 2010, 02:12:19 AM »

It's amazing how many forums of all brands and styles of bikes are talking about this. I just googled cb400ss in the usa (and the newer cb750 and 1100) and came up with a lot of talk out there. It's not just us afterall.

Ya ever get the feeling we are getting the ol' Cuba treatment over here? There are a lot of people out there who ended up buying Triumphs to get the style of bike they really wanted, not just a HD wannabe or a crotch rot-ket. Here we are piecing old stuff together, trying to find parts for bikes or a style of bike we dig and russia, korea... everyone but us apparently are getting these bikes. WTF? Not that I would stop piecing my bikes together, but I can guarantee you my HD would be out the door in a second if I could get a new Honda of the vintage style. I'm looking at buying a Triumph and selling this HD when the economy gets a little better. And there's Honda, giving us a chopper of all things. I DON'T GET IT.

turboguzzi · « **Reply #38 on:** February 24, 2010, 04:10:06 AM »

Isn't there an American Honda person who's reading in this whole forum? makes you wonder.....

IHWillys · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2010, 08:23:42 AM »

Quote from: edbikerii on February 19, 2010, 11:07:08 AM

New VFR motor is single-cam, with an innovative cam follower mechanism that still allows four valves per cylinder...

I'm not disputing the innovation involved as I don't know anything about it, but my 1975 Honda XL350K1 has a SOHC with four valves per cylinder...

Ken

edbikerii · « **Reply #40 on:** February 24, 2010, 08:40:03 AM »

Yeah, funny, I've looked at the design of the XL350 now that you posted this. Honda just used a double-headed rocker arm to accomplish this on the XL350. For the VFR1200 using "UNICAM" technology, it uses long, spindly-looking, rocker arms to open each valve so that the timing, lift, and duration of the valve openings can differ based on the cam grind. I'm a little leery of this UNICAM stuff, as the rockers seem a little long and fragile to me. I'll reserve judgement for a couple years to see if any problems shake out of this new design.

Quote from: IHWillys on February 24, 2010, 08:23:42 AM

Quote from: edbikerii on February 19, 2010, 11:07:08 AM
New VFR motor is single-cam, with an innovative cam follower mechanism that still allows four valves per cylinder...

I'm not disputing the innovation involved as I don't know anything about it, but my 1975 Honda XL350K1 has a SOHC with four valves per cylinder...

Ken

jscro73 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 01, 2010, 11:40:10 AM »

a buddy just sent me this:

davis96 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 01, 2010, 11:49:58 AM »

Quote from: jscro73 on March 01, 2010, 11:40:10 AM

a buddy just sent me this:

Put some nice spoke rims on it and I'd buy

Howell · « **Reply #43 on:** March 01, 2010, 01:12:28 PM »

I hope they come with this one:

syth82 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 01, 2010, 02:26:12 PM »

I <3 that bike.

fastbroshi · « **Reply #45 on:** March 01, 2010, 04:51:37 PM »

All these repost of the new CB's are pissing me off even more knowing we don't have a rat's arse in hell to get them. That cafe'ed one is sick.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #46 on:** March 02, 2010, 10:03:56 AM »

Quote from: fastbroshi on March 01, 2010, 04:51:37 PM

All these repost of the new CB's are pissing me off even more knowing we don't have a rat's arse in hell to get them. That cafe'ed one is sick.

You don't even get to see the stuff at shows.

turboguzzi · « **Reply #47 on:** March 02, 2010, 10:15:02 AM »

all thise cafe's were from the time honda was developing the idea and are only concept bikes.

the bike they ended making is the one i posted at the bggining.

those cafe racers had open cradles, th efinal one has full cradle frame.

So they are not in production but they sure are nice inspiration, would be pretty easy to turn any Nighthawk 750 into something like that if you wanted.

lone*X · « **Reply #48 on:** March 02, 2010, 03:38:05 PM »

Some more pics of the CB1100, both models at the 2009 Tokyo show.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/22/tokyo-2009-honda-cb1100-brings-back-the-jdm/

cb350twin · « **Reply #49 on:** March 02, 2010, 06:48:00 PM »

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It's funny.... I went to the Chicago show and talked to everyone one that showed up.
Many manufacturers were missing. I was disappointed. No KTM, Victory had 5 bikes!!, no Ural, no Aprilia, no Triumph, no MV!!
Royal Enfield and Hyosung were there though. Both of them in force. For the $$ they were the best alternatives.

Don't forget BMW! they weren't there. Suzuki and Yamaha didn't have any of there naked bikes there on display. I was hoping to at least see some adventure bikes none of that either.

Only thing I found interesting was the new Z1000 and the new VFR but not for the price! and Ducati's hypermotard's catch my eye. The cycle show was a lot smaller then last years. Honda display was a little better though as last year all they had were dirt bikes gold wings and jet skis (at a motorcycle show) both the Motorcycle Cycle Show and the Chicago Auto Show where big jokes this year in my opinion.

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Prototype CB-750.

Not a huge fan on this one.. Those disk brakes are god ugly. Forks look to small and short. Don't get me started on the engine. Tank and seat just don't flow. Looks to me like a cheap Chinese knock off of the true CB 750.

The CB 1100F looks pure awesome I'd take on in a heart beat. spoke wheels may look better though but not a requirement.

Any know of the Kawasaki W650? they were only made from 1999 to 2000 in the US. saw that last year at Chicago mods vs rockers it was the only time I've seen or herd about them.

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