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Offline KeithB

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Wintergreen rubbers
« on: February 19, 2010, 09:28:15 AM »
I have heard of a few neat tricks in my time but this thing with the Wintergreen renewing the carb boot rubber seemed a bit out there.
Not that I don't believe everything I read here ::) but I had to try it.
Much to may amazement, IT WORKS!
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 09:33:53 AM »
Yup, sure does.  Jury's still out on the long-term effects but it certainly softens them up with no immediately apparent ill effects.

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 10:23:40 AM »
From the title I thought you were talking about flavored condoms.   ;D ;D
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 11:13:25 AM »
From the title I thought you were talking about flavored condoms.   ;D ;D

Those work great too!  :D

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 11:44:27 AM »
Since I cannot seem to find wintergreen overhere, is there anyone willing to sell an set of F2 carb boot treated with wintergreen. Cannot be found new anymore.

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 12:01:17 PM »
Since I cannot seem to find wintergreen overhere, is there anyone willing to sell an set of F2 carb boot treated with wintergreen. Cannot be found new anymore.

Rob

It's a little tough to find but I can't believe someone in the Netherlands doesn't have it. I'm sure Amazon would ship it to you  ;D

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_11?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wintergreen+oil&x=0&y=0&sprefix=wintergreen

My boots have returned to rock status 6 months on but it worked great at the time.

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 12:45:01 PM »
only 6 months??  man, you must be the first "long term" test since this topic was brought up a little while ago!  can you describe your conditions Iggy?  like bike, how many times you ride it, etc... 

i don't want to have to do this to the boots everytime i need to put the carbs back on in the future!!
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 01:02:33 PM »
only 6 months??  man, you must be the first "long term" test since this topic was brought up a little while ago!  can you describe your conditions Iggy?  like bike, how many times you ride it, etc... 

i don't want to have to do this to the boots everytime i need to put the carbs back on in the future!!

I did it almost a year ago and had the carbs off when I Kreemed my tank this last October. They were supple enough that a few minutes in boiling water was enough to make getting the rack back in easy but NOTHING like when I initially hit them with the wintergreen oil. They snicked right on by hand first time.

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Daily rider - fairly short trip - sub 10 miles
Parked outside

Overall I think it's worth doing for sure but no substitute for new boots - I still can't see dropping $80 - 100 on em when I don't have any air leaks and shouldn't have to have them off the bike more than once every couple years - if that - now that it's running right.

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 03:27:51 PM »
I have heard of a few neat tricks in my time but this thing with the Wintergreen renewing the carb boot rubber seemed a bit out there.
Not that I don't believe everything I read here ::) but I had to try it.
Much to may amazement, IT WORKS!

may i ask where you bought the stuff?
Gerry

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 05:09:21 PM »
I found wintergreen oil at an old time pharmacy.
They use the oil as a liniment. I think three ounces was $10.00.

Now I need the zyleen but they only sell it by the gallon!
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 12:17:11 AM »
I also have a 'trial' on this:

    
Re: Wintergreen oil_rubber renew test / peanut oil plastic renew test_pics
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2010, 05:26:53 am »
   
I tested a 750 K0 inlet rubber by soaking  in Tri-Aryl phosphate ester (Reofos 50) at 70 degrees Centigrade (it is a plasticizer for Nitrile Rubber / PVC ). It softened up Ok - that was about 4 months ago. Will have to check its pliability again. It is still in the boot (trunk to non- 'Limeys'   ;D) of my car ! This plasticizer is flame retardant too.

http://www.chemtura.com/bu/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=40ff7d205ef99110VgnVCM10000053d7010aRCRD&vgnextchannel=b59f921646019110VgnVCM10000053d7010aRCRD&vgnextfmt=default

Have not tried the airbox rubber yet - my analysis was that it was not nitrile rubber but a form of PVC (this is an early K0 about 3000 later than Sandcast with the crappy styrene resin Airbox)  -  airbox replaced with LPM PU one - which is great.

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 12:50:14 AM »
i have to admit, when i first saw the thread name this isnt what i expected. my mind is in the gutter
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 02:19:15 AM »
i have to admit, when i first saw the thread name this isnt what i expected. my mind is in the gutter

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 03:46:44 AM »
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but NOTHING like when I initially hit them with the wintergreen oil. They snicked right on by hand first time.

I was ready with by bag of "special" words I use when installing carbs but didn't need them.
This was the easiest carb install ever!
Considering this is a full resto job, I will probably pony up the dosh and buy new ones but for now, it's all good.

Wintergreen condoms...hmmmmm...that's gotta sting! :o
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 06:13:35 AM »
Since I cannot seem to find wintergreen overhere, is there anyone willing to sell an set of F2 carb boot treated with wintergreen. Cannot be found new anymore.

Rob

Rob go to t chemical supplier and ask for Methyl salicylate, tha "active ingredient" AFAIK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_salicylate

BTW, Be careful

Safety and medicinal use

In pure form, methyl salicylate is toxic, especially when taken internally. A single teaspoon of methyl salicylate contains 7g of salicylate,[9] which is equivalent to more than twenty-three 300 mg aspirin tablets. The lowest published lethal dose is 101 mg/kg body weight in adult humans.[10] It has proven fatal to small children in doses as small as 4 mL.[3] A 17 year-old cross-country runner at Notre Dame Academy on Staten Island, died April 3, 2007, after her body absorbed high levels of methyl salicylate through excessive use of topical muscle-pain relief products.[1
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2010, 06:40:48 AM »
Hi,
How much is needed for 4 boots?
Will 8 Oz be enough?
Rob, I'v  seen this
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-oz-Wintergreen-100-PURE-ESSENTIAL-OIL-Wholesale_W0QQitemZ300371925837QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45ef8fdb4d
Will ship to the Netherlands for US $12.76

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 06:50:38 AM »
Many thanks, this is very helpful.

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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2010, 05:40:34 AM »
Thor's #12 tire prep. It's 100% wintergreen and I paid $17.00 US for a quart. The xylene/wintergreen worked great for my rubbers...

It can be found here:

http://www.hdmworld.com/tirepreps.htm


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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2010, 06:44:20 AM »
 :o  :D Hey thanks for the tip!! I just ordered a quart of the wintergreen from HDM World. Now I'll get some xylene at Home Depot and my lab will be ready for the experiment!! Why am I thinking young Frankenstein?
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Re: Wintergreen rubbers
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2010, 08:19:52 AM »
It worked!  :o
Now my garage and bike stink .  ;D
Wonder how long before the bike stops smelling like wintergreen?
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