Topic: Pros and Cons: Holley vs Edelbrock (Carter) Carburetors?

[Inigo Montoya]

Funny how I never said I hated any brands, but you assumed (and claimed) I did

It was a touch of sarcasm.
Look at the list of honda motorcycles you have. You might have others but that list would indicate a good deal of brand loyalty. Also, since you say brand loyalty is stupid, and the disdain you show for it, kinda indicates brand hatred or at the very least overall brand dislike.

I am sure you see the sarcasm and irony there.

Besides, I doubt there is ANYONE who does not have some amount of brand loyalty. Anything a person buys, they will look at a particular brand first for whatever reason. I think the difference is brand loyalty and BLIND brand loyalty.

[6pkrunner]

You buy something and have good luck with it, you will usually buy the same item again hoping for the same level of success. Why go out for another unknown when your expectations have already be satisfied? When that level of expectation is not met, then you start shopping again. Brand loyalty - level of expectation are the same to me. During the past few decades most people were more than satisfied with the level of service that their Toyotas gave them. They were repeat customers and it made Toyota the largest car manufacturer in the world. Their resolve will now be tested. Conversely GM for decades was one of the pillars in manufacturing. With near market domination they gutted quality for profits. Drove the customers away for the better perceived value in the Asians. Their expectations were met and they stuck.

However for me now price is the single most determining factor. I feel that most stuff is just marketed junk with quality tossed out the window and the "If you don't buy it, someone will" attitude. Most electronics and appliances fall into this category - for me anyway. Yes others have different experiences - the ones I had make me feel this way. And price is also the reason I'll never buy a new car again. Too much depreciation for the privilege of being the first in the seat.

[Inigo Montoya]

You buy something and have good luck with it, you will usually buy the same item again hoping for the same level of success. Why go out for another unknown when your expectations have already be satisfied?

Exactly.

[bill440cars]

You buy something and have good luck with it, you will usually buy the same item again hoping for the same level of success. Why go out for another unknown when your expectations have already be satisfied?

Exactly.

     And THAT'S why I'll probably leave the Holley alone, unless I start experiencing problems (that I can't resolve) or happen upon an incredible deal on a Carter (Edelbrock).

[cruzin69]

Oh Boy. Dont get all ya knickers in a knot.

Ive used both 600 and 750 vac square bore Holleys on my Mopars. They work ok, but Holleys do have a tendancy to "suck the Joose", leak fuel, and get vapour lock.

Ive also used a beat up 383 AVS, and those things work like a charm, just like the are suppose to be there.

But my Favorite carb is the big Ol Scary, Spaceage carb ...the Carter Thermoquad.!!

What a great design with fantastic drivability, brilliant throttle response, excellent fuel useage, never heat soaks or leaks fuel. With the added bonus of that Huge intake noise when the 2 1/4" secondarys open up...If ya dont know what I mean, watch "Blues Brothers" again, and listen to the intake raw of the '74 440 with a thermy.

The TQ can be fiddly, but once its sorted is way ahead of the mainstream Holleys, and on Par with annular race 850s/ Demons etc.
Admittedly, they are all second hand now, but most parts are still available, and make a real headf#$@ statement to everyone, when you open the hood.
Only Problem is they are a Spreadbore carb, so you need an adaptor, or the correct manifold pattern.
I love them and am building a big primary one (440 TQ) for my stroked 340 ,( 360), to put in my 69 Dart again, Should run high 11s with a .508" 3500 stall, 4.1s....High 10s with some sniff.

[bill440cars]

Oh Boy. Dont get all ya knickers in a knot.

Ive used both 600 and 750 vac square bore Holleys on my Mopars. They work ok, but Holleys do have a tendancy to "suck the Joose", leak fuel, and get vapour lock.

Ive also used a beat up 383 AVS, and those things work like a charm, just like the are suppose to be there.

But my Favorite carb is the big Ol Scary, Spaceage carb ...the Carter Thermoquad.!!

What a great design with fantastic drivability, brilliant throttle response, excellent fuel useage, never heat soaks or leaks fuel. With the added bonus of that Huge intake noise when the 2 1/4" secondarys open up...If ya dont know what I mean, watch "Blues Brothers" again, and listen to the intake raw of the '74 440 with a thermy.

The TQ can be fiddly, but once its sorted is way ahead of the mainstream Holleys, and on Par with annular race 850s/ Demons etc.
Admittedly, they are all second hand now, but most parts are still available, and make a real headf#$@ statement to everyone, when you open the hood.
Only Problem is they are a Spreadbore carb, so you need an adaptor, or the correct manifold pattern.
I love them and am building a big primary one (440 TQ) for my stroked 340 ,( 360), to put in my 69 Dart again, Should run high 11s with a .508" 3500 stall, 4.1s....High 10s with some sniff.

 Had a '74 Dodge Royal Monaco (ex Arkansas State Police Car) and the 440 Interceptor had the ol' Thermoquad and, Yes, it DID sound off when you nailed it. Never had to do ANYTHING to that one either.
 

[dave500]

qjet/thermoquad.,i like spreadbores.,keep off adaptor plates though.,use the proper manifold.

[bill440cars]

qjet/thermoquad.,i like spreadbores.,keep off adaptor plates though.,use the proper manifold.

  I hear ya, adapters seem to be the way, but aren't ALWAYS the ticket.