Author Topic: Not Charging CB550K [Problem Solved!] [Problem Broken Again!] (Read 16247 times)

scottly · « **Reply #125 on:** March 12, 2010, 03:24:41 PM »

Hmm. Go back and remove the green wire at the coil mount. With the grn connected to the reg, (key off!!!), measure the resistance between the disconnected coil end and the grn reg. with the meter set on the lowest ohm scale. Tell me the actual reading.
By the way, does the bike run any different than before you started getting shocked? If that plug wire has always been broken off, you're in for a pleasant surprise when you get it fixed and running on all four!

steam-powered man · « **Reply #126 on:** March 12, 2010, 03:45:32 PM »

have read most of the posts and just curious mr campbmic; have you removed and buffed very nicely the battery ground wire at the frame? ground wire usually connects to an engine bolt. clean both sides of the elec connector, and the surface where it rests.
bobp

campbmic · « **Reply #127 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:04:56 PM »

I went back and ran your test and there is no resistance between the green ground wire at the coils and the green wire coming out of the back of the regulator.

Shoemanii I will double check this to make sure it is grounded

I tried explaining this to you guys in the last post but I believe this might be the reason why I'm not charging. I disconnected the white wire running to the alternator and tested it for power. Of course it had power. I also decided to check the green wire running from the alternator and it also had power! just as much as the white one aruond 12V. I'm assuming this is not correct right? I noticed whenever I disconnected it there was a spark. I drew a diagram to show where I tested. The first picture is of it hooked up, the second is what I disconnected to test if the green ground coming from the alternator had any power.

The power is not coming from the female connector (which comes from the bike's ground) but is coming from the alternator itself.

scottly · « **Reply #128 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:08:08 PM »

Are you getting sparks with the key off???

scottly · « **Reply #129 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:14:32 PM »

Next test (one step at a time, please. Once we get things fixed, we can go back over the other stuff)

Reconnect the grn at the coil. Key off. Disconnect the white wire at the reg and measure the resistance to ground, and report your actual reading.

campbmic · « **Reply #130 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:21:07 PM »

the resistance from the female end (bike end) or male end (alternator end)

scottly · « **Reply #131 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:24:55 PM »

Sorry. Measure from the wht wire, not the reg term, to ground.

campbmic · « **Reply #132 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:32:53 PM »

I have the field coil and stator coil removed from the bike the I have the stator coil connected to the green wire but not the white wire. I tested the white wire coming frmo the stator and not from the bike. It had 5.4 ohms

scottly · « **Reply #133 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:35:37 PM »

And you measured from the white wire to a bolt on the engine?

campbmic · « **Reply #134 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:39:30 PM »

yes a bolt on the engine. Should my green wire from the alternator have DC voltage in it?

scottly · « **Reply #135 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:42:16 PM »

is the key on?

campbmic · « **Reply #136 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:50:19 PM »

yes the key is on or nether the white or green are powered

scottly · « **Reply #137 on:** March 12, 2010, 04:52:51 PM »

reconnect the alternator the way it is normally wired on the bike, and measure the resistance from the wht wire, (disconnected from the reg) to engine ground, key off.

campbmic · « **Reply #138 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:02:57 PM »

Do I need to put the stator coil and field coil back in the alternator cover and bolt it to the bike? Wit the field coil just connected by the green wire the resistance is 5.4 OHMS on the white wire (which is not connect to anything) to the ground with the key off.

scottly · « **Reply #139 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:08:58 PM »

No, you don't have to remount, just wire both field wires, wht&grn, as normal. (I sure hope you're not letting the field or stator hang by their wires!!!)

campbmic · « **Reply #140 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:11:26 PM »

Theres 5.4 OHMS resistance coming from the field coil's white wire to the ground. The green wire is connected to the ground as well but the white wire is not connected to anything. Oh, its on my shifter lever by the way

scottly · « **Reply #141 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:13:14 PM »

Measured at the reg end, right?

campbmic · « **Reply #142 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:18:19 PM »

I'm measuring from the white wire that is coming from the field coil I have disconnected it from the white wire coming from the regulator

scottly · « **Reply #143 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:25:23 PM »

Ok, I take this to mean you did indeed measure at the reg end of the white wire. If so, put everything back together and go read the last part of nick's stator and field thread to find out how to "jump" your reg (actually, it's really jumping the field). If you're unsure as anything, better to ask questions first, than make a mistake that might smoke something.

campbmic · « **Reply #144 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:30:56 PM »

The white wire coming from the regulator going to the alternator already has the same voltage as the battery. The problem is the green wire leaving the alternator also has that same voltage. Should this happen?

I'll jump the alternator if you still think its a good idea.

scottly · « **Reply #145 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:43:00 PM »

If the grn wire from the alt is disconnected from the harness, IT's not grounded. The field is a coil of wire, an electromagnet, with 5.4 ohms resistance. When it is disconnected from ground, the coil is an open circuit, with no current flowing, and reads the same volts as the other end of the coil, the wht wire. The reason I didn't think jumping was indicated in your case, was your earlier reports of no voltage difference, running or not, between the blk and wht terms at the reg, with everything hooked up normally.
For the record, you do not have problems with blowing fuses, or the battery going dead over night, right?

campbmic · « **Reply #146 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:44:59 PM »

Correct

scottly · « **Reply #147 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:52:37 PM »

Cool. I guess it's time to jump, as we've pretty much ruled everything out. One more thing, Nick also reported voltage jumping around. It was due to intermittent regulator point contact. (The technical term is "flaky points"

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campbmic · « **Reply #148 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:57:40 PM »

I just jumped. At 4k RPM with the lights off I lose about .1 volts every 20 seconds.

scottly · « **Reply #149 on:** March 12, 2010, 06:01:30 PM »

You bolted the field and stator back into the housing, bolted the housing back on the bike first? If so, tell me EXACTLY how you jumped it.

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