Hi gang.This topic sure has suffered from a broken rev limiter.I have no time for squids,they give all motorbikers a bad name.I also fear greatly encountering a bad copper.Having watched many a "Cops" episode though,it seems to me that when you are finally stopped,out come the guns until the runner is under control.It must be normal procedure,no?I had a gun pulled on me in a traffic stop once and it scared the hell out of me;I wasn't running and he was in uniform.I was speeding on I-5 in rural Oregon in the middle of the night.At home here in Ontario when pulled over I would always get out of my car and go back to meet the officer.I always felt this show of respect along with some generous ass kissing might buy me a break!Quite often it worked!Anyway,on this desolate stretch of Oregon road,in the middle of the night,as I opened the door and started to get out,I was met with a gun pointed at me.I just about had a heart attack on the spot.After things calmed down,the officer told me how "things are different down here,we get shot all the time."I completely understood his actions.We had a nice chat for a few minutes,he gave me the invoice,and I was on my way.This topic just brought back some memories for me and really adds nothing to the previous discourse.May I just sign off with this however;we should hope and demand that those entrusted to carry a gun to enforce the law be well trained and level headed,but they are human and if we antagonize them with our mouth or our actions,don't expect a pleasant encounter. Rock On