Author Topic: Old CL77 305 Scrambler - 1965 Completed August 29, 2010 (Read 20226 times)

bucky katt · « **Reply #25 on:** April 10, 2010, 10:56:50 PM »

hows it coming along Gordon?

Magpie · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2010, 08:04:47 AM »

They came in bright candy orange too.
Cliff.

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #27 on:** April 11, 2010, 12:33:25 PM »

CL72 and CL77 colors.........1962-1964 were CL72 only and all came with aluminum fenders. Aluminum tanks were optional. All fenders were painted silver except the '62 and maybe a few of the early '63s. All frames were either black, red or blue. All tanks were painted silver.

1965 was first year of CL77 but with CL72 brakes and forks. Black or Red frames.....all silver tanks, fenders and sidecovers. All fenders are steel.

1966 introduced the big brake CL77 with aluminum fork legs painted silver. No more CL72s were shipped to the US. All frames were Black or Red until late production in '67 when only black frames were available. A few hundred bikes were made in '67 with blue tanks and sidecovers as well as orange tanks and sidecovers. The last few hundred (1,000) also had chrome fenders and silver piping on the seat (faded to gold).

The 1965 models have CL72 pipes with baffles and a slip-on spark-arrestor type of muffler. The '66 models have a 1-inch longer pipe length at the header on the left side. The later '66 models introduced a welded-on muffler and in '67 the rear heat shield was lengthened.

The attached photo is a '65 I finished last summer for a buyer that wanted the '66 big brakes and no muffler.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #28 on:** April 23, 2010, 08:33:22 PM »

Slowly (I've had it 1 month) it's coming back to life....

Original parts cleaned and zinc coated as original - the cost of a NOS rear sprocket almost covered getting everything plated. I had the sprocket, kickstand, and even the shock springs plated even though they reside under full covers.

Gordon

Bodi · « **Reply #29 on:** April 29, 2010, 07:00:46 AM »

The electronic ignition on the honda305 website is a good improvement. Mine has had no issues in about 10 years or so (OK, I don't use the bike a lot though).
Check the points shaft for sloppiness in the cam half, if it is loose the ignition timing will be very shaky. You can ream the hole and have the shaft hardwelded and reground - or look for better pieces.
The cam chain tensioner wheel can get very brittle and even break into pieces. Check it over.
I've been looking for a (cheap) scrambler frame for a while, I have a spare super hawk engine (or most of it - been moved in boxes a few times) and I'd like to have a scrambler.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2010, 06:45:19 AM »

I updated the photos in the 1st post -

Gordon

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2010, 08:25:37 AM »

Quote from: Ilbikes on March 25, 2010, 04:31:25 AM

Thanks for all of the compliments guys.

Bill, I did check out the website, registered, and ordered both of Bill Silver's books along with the factory shop and parts manuals. Thanks for the tips/advice. I did learn that every CL77 had silver fenders, tank, and side covers - not one ever came in gold. The frame for this and the fork lowers were black originally, so they'll go back that way. What is interesting is that it appears to be a very early model and may actually be a 1965. I spoke with Nick of Ohio Cycle (helped me with tons of NOS Bomber parts) and he said the early ones would actually be the most rare. I'm kind of happy about the whole thing - $300 and local pick-up so I'm not much into it.

Thanks to all again for the input.
Gordon

Looking good Gordon but what happened to the black frame, I guess Dens pictures swayed
you.

Sam.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2010, 11:54:38 AM »

Actually Sam, when I started taking this one apart - I learned it had originally been red. Red of course was my choice anyway, so that just helped seal the deal. I have owned about 50 bikes in my 52 years, restored about 30 of those and they've all been black - this one is already demanding more attention to detail than normal - every bolt, nut, and washer shows against that bright red frame and it's components stick out like a beacon. Ok by me, I'm simply looking for something that keeps me busy in the evenings and this one has done just that. Just needs some TLC......

Gordon

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2010, 12:48:30 PM »

Good to see the progress.............you have a good candidate for restoration with few wrench marks. I have found several red-framed bikes painted over with black. Its possible that some of the red frames were repainted to black at the factory during the late '66 and early '67 production. For some reason the red frames just lost their market appeal and the dealers only wanted black frames. It was about the same time that HONDA was moving away from the original small dealers and hardware stores and began to move into stand-alone dealerships or shared space with established dealers......notably TRIUMPH in the western states.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #34 on:** June 27, 2010, 07:18:37 PM »

I've updated the pics through today.

Regards,
Gordon

bill440cars · « **Reply #35 on:** June 27, 2010, 09:37:09 PM »

Sorry Gordon, I meant to keep up with this better and got side tracked. Beautiful job as always though. I figured as much. Sure looks good to see this beauty coming together. Can't wait to see the finished product!

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #36 on:** June 28, 2010, 11:13:00 AM »

Hey Bill, it's been a long time. I was hoping those pics would get your juices going. Thanks for the compliments and I certainly am enjoying this one. Something about it's red frame has made this a little more exciting.

How are things and is there some progress on your projects?

Best Regards,
Gordon

bill440cars · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2010, 09:10:38 PM »

Quote from: Ilbikes on June 28, 2010, 11:13:00 AM

Hey Bill, it's been a long time. I was hoping those pics would get your juices going. Thanks for the compliments and I certainly am enjoying this one. Something about it's red frame has made this a little more exciting.

How are things and is there some progress on your projects?

Best Regards,
Gordon

Yeah, it Has been a while, huh? Yeah, hard to keep from checking out a CL or CB72/77 Project, especially when it's yours. I've been into several different kinds of bikes, but there is just something about these, that keep my interest better. In the Cb stuff I have, I've got a 66' Super Hawk Frame that is red and I'm thinking of going back with red again, when I can get on with that one.

Things are going pretty good. the daily progress varies. I haven't had any bad relapses or anything like that. Karla's still solid and I've been doing better, but we both are trying to keep a steady keel, as we approach the 1st of July this year, which will make a year since we lost Brenda. I HAVE been doing some Project work, but it has been on the '07 Charger that I got about a month or so ago. I'm working on getting back to the Super Hawk Cafe Project, as I had picked up a fair amount of parts over the winter months. Thing is, I got all of those parts (to include a supposed to be able to be a running CL77 engine) ALSO, I Had 2 or 3 possible Girl Friend possibilities back around Feb or March (I think) and those all went away basically. So, I've been trying to not even think about any kind of companionship with anybody for now, anyway. Sometimes Karla (my Daughter) and my Dad can't figure out how I can be so lonely at times, when I have THEM!

No Clue there!

Well, I did it again, I didn't mean to go on and certainly not to hijack your thread. Anyway, Looking forward to seeing this bike's progress and Hoping to get on with MINE real soon. Thanks for asking Gordon.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #38 on:** July 03, 2010, 10:28:07 PM »

I made some more progress last night and this evening. I'm waiting on spokes now....mine are being re-plated. The ones I bought from Bangledesh are not correct, so I had to find a plater who would do my old ones.

Gordon

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #39 on:** July 08, 2010, 11:40:19 AM »

Very polished and shiney! A lot more polish than on mine! If you are going for stock finishes, the air-cleaner ears should be red.......if not, yours look cool. The spokes are the same as used on the Black Bomber. I have replated a few sets with good success but found NOS nipples & washers along with a few dozen new spokes over the years. Did you re-chrome your rims? If so, I am looking for a good shop as the two I have used so far leave a small area with very thin chrome and the nickle/copper shows if the light is right. Hint........install the rectifier and most of the harness before you install the rear fender. It can be done later but usually leaves a scratch in the fender.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #40 on:** July 21, 2010, 05:29:42 AM »

Brown's Plating did some magic to my old pipes and covers. I am very, very pleased with their work - The first two are the CL77's pipes before/after, the second one is my original KZ900 fender....almost like liquid chrome. They do nice work. I had the shocks and rims plated locally, no comparison.

Gordon

bwaller · « **Reply #41 on:** July 24, 2010, 06:07:35 PM »

Wow Gordon, nice job for sure.

I've heard of Browns here before, but never paid attention much. Not many places will consider doing exhaust pipes and I have a set of 341's I'd like done....

Thanks for the reminder.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2010, 03:10:18 AM »

Almost done guys - these taken August 13, 2010 -

spot45 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 15, 2010, 03:39:09 AM »

Brown's is the only place that will do exhaust parts (mufflers,etc.). It looks beautiful. Keep up the good work. If I had a dollar for every time someone asked me for CL77 parts I would be worth millions by now.

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #44 on:** August 15, 2010, 06:36:59 PM »

Very nice fit and finish.........same year but not quite so shiney now on ebay with a starting bid of $4500.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:44:15 PM »

Stunning Gordon.

Sam.

bill440cars · « **Reply #46 on:** August 21, 2010, 09:12:16 PM »

Sam said it RIGHT Gordon, that CL IS STUNNING! I've got a CL72, want some more work?

Kidding, I DO have the CL72, but won't send it to ya, you'll be needing a break, I'm sure.

BTW, Are YOU going to Barber this year? I posted over in the Open Forum asking whose going, as I am going to work hard at being there this time. Bill

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #47 on:** August 22, 2010, 06:40:43 PM »

Hi Bill, yes - I'll be there with this little red CL77. You'll find me working in the VJMC area just off to the left of the front entrance gate - you cannot miss us. We have the best spot in the park and I'll be pushing pancake tickets at the entrance on Saturday for Make a Wish. I'm torn as to whether I'll bring my KZ900 again or my Mach IV, but the Bomber and the GT750 will probably stay home this year.

Do plan to come. I promise you'll enjoy the event and the museum.

Best Regards,
Gordon

bill440cars · « **Reply #48 on:** August 24, 2010, 12:48:33 PM »

Quote from: Ilbikes on August 22, 2010, 06:40:43 PM

Hi Bill, yes - I'll be there with this little red CL77. You'll find me working in the VJMC area just off to the left of the front entrance gate - you cannot miss us. We have the best spot in the park and I'll be pushing pancake tickets at the entrance on Saturday for Make a Wish. I'm torn as to whether I'll bring my KZ900 again or my Mach IV, but the Bomber and the GT750 will probably stay home this year.

Do plan to come. I promise you'll enjoy the event and the museum.

Best Regards,
Gordon

Sure looks good to see that CL coming together under YOUR hands! When I saw that you were going to do one, I already had it pictured in my mind, as to the quality of fit and finish, of the end product. You Sir, are a MASTER!

Looking forward to meeting you AND the others as well, Bill

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #49 on:** August 29, 2010, 10:46:08 AM »

Finished it today with the setting of the timing and putting fuel in the tank. It started on the 2nd kick and was idleing on it's own without choke after 30 seconds. This is probably the easiest starting bike I own or have owned - the GT750 Suzuki the only close competitor. I chose to go with NOS cables and their discoloration and all as opposed to new re-makes. The throttle cable is a new replacement because I have not yet found a new 45 year old original. Still looking... I also need to work on getting that 40+ mold release wax off of the tires. I just hate getting things wet.

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Author Topic: Old CL77 305 Scrambler - 1965 Completed August 29, 2010 (Read 20226 times)