Topic: Snorting Hydrogen Peroxide 3%

[Industrial Cafe]

I've had a stuffy head and chest congestion for 3-4 weeks, it just won't go away, it subsides and comes back.
    I go to the doctor and he puts me on a butt load of antibiotics, and all that does is make me sh!t my brains out. I actually got worse while I was taking them.
    also I'm on medicaid [don't turn this into a  so the doctor spends as little time as possible with me. just throws meds at me and sends me on my way. I shoulda been sent out to get a nasal mucous swab or maybe even a chest X-ray (next door to him) for pneumonia.

I don't want this to turn into a healthcare thread.
I'm just speaking from personal experience being on good insurance and now on medicaid.
     also this is the basic gist of what the doctor said, but with more legally benign words-
   "medicaid doesn't pay me enough to treat you like I would if you were on good insurance"

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ANYWHEEZE!! To the point of this thread

             today I got up and was stuffed up and coughing as usual, so I thought
"hey hydrogen peroxide fizzes on bacteria and makes a booboo feel better, what if I pour it on a paper towel and snort it up my nose?"
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I held it in there for a while, fizz drippin' out my nose, and burning down my throat. waterin' eyes and burning nasal passages.. BLOW and-

   It loosened up about 35 pounds of snot in my head. I did this about 6-7 times.
    
also I assume it loosened the congestion in my chest from breathing the vapors cause I've been coughing up little greenish-yellow hampsters all morning.

I've been coughing for weeks with no mucous coming up, until now.
   I'll have to say about 5 minutes after doing that I felt 60% healthier. like I wasn't under attack.

why didn't the doctor mention this idea?  is it cause there's idiots out there that would snort it and swallow a half pint? then sue him for malpractice?  

                                    OK, well I just wanted to put that out there.
                      ,Brian

[tramp]

i hope you read the warning label

[Industrial Cafe]

no I did not.

[Industrial Cafe]

 ok , so I read it and it says "for external use only don't pour this #$%* in your eyes"

so I'm fine it didn't say anything about the nose holes.

[Industrial Cafe]

the warning label on this thing is contradictory-

oral debriding agent  well oral is relatively 'internal'

then it says for external use only...
like some greedy moron swallowed it after swishing with it, sued, and they had to add a warning.

here's the old stuff my parents had when I was little. if I remember correctly, it didn't have stupid warnings on it, cause no one thought to drink it.

[bucky katt]

i DO know it can necrotize tissue, our vet told me not to use it on wounds on the horses.

[Bob Wessner]

No personal opinion either way, but you might want to read through this and make an informed decision.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mhmi/mmg174.html

[mlinder]

I use it as mouthwash pretty regularly.
I rinse out with regular mouthwash right away, though.

[Industrial Cafe]

I heard it like this-

 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes several times a day treated Gangrene that would not heal with any medicine but was healed by soaking in peroxide.

what did your horse doctor sell you instead? a 400 dollar bottle of pills? 

[HavocTurbo]

i DO know it can necrotize tissue, our vet told me not to use it on wounds on the horses.

HP has a very bad effect on the skin of horses. Causes hair to fall out around the area and exposing the wound to more insects.

I refused to listen to the vet and did it anyway.... never again.

Doesn't actually directly hurt the horse though.

[Industrial Cafe]

No personal opinion either way, but you might want to read through this and make an informed decision.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mhmi/mmg174.html

That's the 100% H2-O2 they use in coal-electric plants used for fuel purification.
I used to work around that stuff.  that sh!t'll kill you fast.

[Industrial Cafe]

i DO know it can necrotize tissue, our vet told me not to use it on wounds on the horses.

HP has a very bad effect on the skin of horses. Causes hair to fall out around the area and exposing the wound to more insects.

I refused to listen to the vet and did it anyway.... never again.

Doesn't actually directly hurt the horse though.

oh I understand now

but I'm not a horse.

[HavocTurbo]

No but I've seen you topless...

I bet it has a bad effect on monkeys too. 

[Duke McDukiedook]

I don't think it is something you really want to inhale on a regular basis.
The problem probably occurs when the vapors gets deep into your lungs to the alveoli and could possibly do some permanent damage to the cilia.

Then you are #$%*ed, probably about the same effect when people get exposed to mustard gas and chlorine, #$%* them up permanently.

[coldright]

Brian, lay off the HP in your nares.  If you must at least dilute it with water 1:1.  It does damage tissue and I'm willing to take Duke's word for it on the vapor's negative effects on your lung tissue.  Have you ever heard of a nettie pot?  The idea is to take warm saline and rinse with that.  Boil water on the stove, let it cool to a point that is comfortable to said nares, then take a cup or so and mix salt into it until it tastes like tears.  You are essentially making normal saline or .9% saline.   Rinse and repeat til the cows come home.  It won't damage tissue and it will break up mucus. 

[Duke McDukiedook]

Neti pot!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_pot

[HavocTurbo]

Brian, lay off the HP in your nares.  If you must at least dilute it with water 1:1.  It does damage tissue and I'm willing to take Duke's word for it on the vapor's negative effects on your lung tissue.  Have you ever heard of a nettie pot?  The idea is to take warm saline and rinse with that.  Boil water on the stove, let it cool to a point that is comfortable to said nares, then take a cup or so and mix salt into it until it tastes like tears.  You are essentially making normal saline or .9% saline.   Rinse and repeat til the cows come home.  It won't damage tissue and it will break up mucus. 

Rides a SOHC4.... check.
Woman.... Check.

Cares about your nose insides whilst trying to remain unaffected by your stupidity over the internet.....


That's a keeper. 

[Industrial Cafe]

thanks for the advise cOldright- I've done the saline thing before and it didn't seem to do as much as this.

   I wasn't planning on huffing the vapors for any extended time. I've accidentally inhaled carb cleaner, starting fluid, and aircraft paint remover to the point of fiery burning lungs or slurring words and blacking out... (when I was young and dumb)
    The whole ordeal this morning took maybe a minute tops. It was like snort/fizz/burn/blow and repeat if I would have felt ill affects I'd say "oh hey guys, I did this for 25 minutes and now I'm dying"  

we use it to clean things around the house, granted it's in a 50:50 mix like you said.
    if the vapors were so bad would I have problems from cleaning with it?  

or am I now coughing up all the phlegm that has been gurgling in my lungs for so long, cause I damaged them?  they don't hurt like they do when I use mucinex, that stuff makes my bronchi feel like they're bruised.

mucinex hurts me here-    ...and no mucous comes up.



I just read what I wrote and just so you know-
I'm not trying to be a know-it-all smart ass, I'm seriously rebutting and asking. cause I was just trying everything possible, even old home remedies from when I was a kid.

Ive been sick too long and the doc just throws scrips and kicks me out.

Cares about your nose insides whilst trying to remain unaffected by your stupidity over the internet.....


That's a keeper. 

oh and
shut up HT

[Industrial Cafe]

oh I forgot,
   the biggest reason I did this was- I have what I can only describe as a permanent abscess from where I had a tooth pulled and the root penetrated the floor of my sinus cavity.

   I could feel it vacuum shut while blowing my nose, then I could hear snot being sucked into it with a little swizzlewizzlezzzzzzzzzzzzz for about 10-15 seconds.

when I did this I felt a chunk of crap come out of my nose that resembled a shriveled pea, and I could feel it pop out of my abscess and into the tissue.

I don't know what it was.... coulda been a shriveled pea. (I eat a lot of peas and sometimes I breathe them up into my nose)


so there's that.

[bucky katt]

I heard it like this-

 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes several times a day treated Gangrene that would not heal with any medicine but was healed by soaking in peroxide.

what did your horse doctor sell you instead? a 400 dollar bottle of pills? 

she told me to just hose the idiot mares head wound with the hose a few times a day.......damn idiot arab mare.

[Frankenkit]

+1000 on the neti pot.  shell out the extra couple of bux for the salt packets, too... buffers it really well and doesn't burn so much.

[Industrial Cafe]

huh...


hey Carrie, my wife just saw my post, slapped me in the back of the head, went over to her computer, and pulled up a remedy sheet that stated stuffy head? spray a 50:50 mix of H2-O2 and water in your nostrils, hold and blow.


well, If I suffer and negative effects I'll certainly let the community know.

oops oh well. 

[Kframe]

.....   
I go to the doctor and he puts me on a butt load of antibiotics, and all that does is make me sh!t my brains out. I actually got worse while I was taking them.

Just FYI, if you eat a thing of yogurt about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes after taking an antibiotic, you can prevent/reduce the runs.  
The antibiotic kills the flora ("good bacteria") in your intestines, which screws up the bulking action of the large bowel, giving you diarrhea.
The yogurt helps replenish the flora, making 'stuff' bulk up better.
(It's important to wait the half hour or so, for the pill to get past your stomach, otherwise the antibiotic gets used up killing the yogurt.)

Some people with very touchy stomachs need to eat the yogurt after every dose (like 3x a day), but I've had good luck with just once a day.  

It seems like Cipro and Erythromycin cause this in most people, and the penicillins to a lesser extent.  

Good luck (or just buy diapers! )
-K

[Kframe]

p.s. Another doctor friend of mine swears by squirting normal saline up his nose with a cath tip 60cc syringe to blow out the snot. 
Up the nose and lets it dribble out the other nare and his mouth.
It works, but is fairly unpleasant feeling.
-K

[Industrial Cafe]

sounds good, I'm not a fan of squirting my nose holes though... (thread topic aside)

   I always ask doctors and nurses what they do so they don't get sick, and they just say "strong defenses and lots of hand sanitizer I guess" which doesn't answer the question. cause hand sanitizer is a relatively new concept.

I think maybe my house is getting me sick, when I was working I never got sick, now it feels like I'm never well.