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Re: More CNN Breaking News
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2010, 01:01:13 PM »
So where do you hide your gun, Cap'n?  :)

I carry it out in the open.

Sigh.... ah to be young and have a legal foid card. Sigh.... those were the good old days.

Back before one #$%* up screws your personal protection rights for good.
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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2010, 01:07:08 PM »
Haha, you have to have FOID cards... :P

Man, democrats there sure have screwed up Illinois bad.

The only good part about Illinois is they do allow silencers, I still want to buy a silenced .22 for squirrel plinking.

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2010, 01:10:13 PM »
Haha, you have to have FOID cards... :P

Man, democrats there sure have screwed up Illinois bad.

The only good part about Illinois is they do allow silencers, I still want to buy a silenced .22 for squirrel plinking.



Not sure what country you live in.... but IL has never allowed silencers without FEDERAL consent.

We #$%*ing suck. Crappiest state in the world. Yea that's right.... WORLD.

I still cannot #$%*ing vote. Losers.

Oh but I can be an elected official...... #$%* I can be president.... WTF!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2010, 01:12:21 PM »
Huh, NRA said that Illinois allowed purchases of weapons with silencers, I was gonna have my dad buy me one of those sweet, silenced squirrel guns that go "click".
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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2010, 01:13:43 PM »
Just have your federal consent paperwork filed.... or they will do that at the store... and you are all set.

Or I could make you one.... shhhh.  :D
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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2010, 01:18:59 PM »
Ahh, that sucks.
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Re: More CNN Breaking News
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2010, 01:36:11 PM »
Haha, you have to have FOID cards... :P

Man, democrats there sure have screwed up Illinois bad.

The only good part about Illinois is they do allow silencers, I still want to buy a silenced .22 for squirrel plinking.



Not sure what country you live in.... but IL has never allowed silencers without FEDERAL consent.

We #$%*ing suck. Crappiest state in the world. Yea that's right.... WORLD.

I still cannot #$%*ing vote. Losers.

Oh but I can be an elected official...... #$%* I can be president.... WTF!!!!

Why can't you vote?

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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2010, 01:56:11 PM »
Felony conviction prohibits the ability to vote. Multiply that by 2.... and it gets even worse.

So I'm basically a second class citizen. I cannot get any govt help unless I'm about to die.

Or get hit by a bus in this case lol.
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Re: More CNN Breaking News
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2010, 02:18:24 PM »
Felony conviction x2 for what?  You can't leave a girl hangin'

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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2010, 02:24:12 PM »
I used to own a shop here where I live... small town.

I took in several projects from someone I've known since high school. One was a 60's F-100 the other a 66 Ford Ranchero. Both of them were stolen, along with all the parts he had "bought for them".

State's Attorney had a field day throwing the book at me. Local Village Prosecutor decided that I was the example for everyone in our town.

I lost my shop, and everything inside of it. Including several projects of my own. Whether I had paperwork or not they took it all. And some of my employee's #$%* too.

That was almost 10 years ago. They charged me with 2 counts of felony theft. Until that point I have had nothing but traffic offenses. And since I have nothing. Not even a warning.

I was told I'd get it all back.... but everything is still being held as evidence. (which means it's going to be auctioned off here very soon)
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2010, 02:28:30 PM »
Damn, now that is a form of piracy!  I don't understand how in a small town when you know the people involved #$%* like that still happens.  You are remarkable in that nothing seems to keep you down.   I'm sorry to hear you lost everything.  Any chance you could have the city buy it back for you?  ;)
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2010, 02:56:09 PM »
lol thats the problem of living in a small town.... all kinds of #$%* happens.

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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2010, 03:20:40 PM »
Maybe they should form a corporation, call it Blackwater and they could do whatever they please, right??







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Re: More CNN Breaking News
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2010, 05:14:00 PM »
So where do you hide your gun, Capon?  :)

I carry it out in the open.

Were you captaining the boat in the background?
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« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2010, 06:05:42 PM »
That is The Liseron.  I worked on deck, drove a 20ft. launch, and was a naturalist and fishing guide.  You can look her up under The Boat Company... SE Alaska.  

This shot is from somewhere in the Gulf Islands...
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« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2010, 07:00:10 PM »
Now I have to figure out where that dock is ;)

I did a 3 month Vancouver-Glacier Bay return on my 45ft wood boat years ago ;D

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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2010, 06:57:11 AM »
You guys and your big damn boats.  >:(

All I gots is a couple a canoes up back the holler.  :'(
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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2010, 07:23:18 AM »
You guys and your big damn boats.  >:(

All I gots is a couple a canoes up back the holler.  :'(

      I hear ya Dukie, I've got an aluminum 14ft V-bottom boat myself. no trailer or motor (not even a trolling motor), but I've got the boat. Oh, I DO have 1 paddle though. ::)


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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2010, 07:35:46 AM »
You guys and your big damn boats.  >:(

All I gots is a couple a canoes up back the holler.  :'(


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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2010, 10:20:45 AM »
Hey man, that is how it actually is in some of those towns in the northern Ozarks where I went to school.

Some of the best floating you could do on some of the rivers from Missouri down to Arkansas- beautiful scenery and decent trout fishing.  :)

Some of the nicest people you could ever meet, you don't want to cross them or get them pissed at you.

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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2010, 12:59:22 PM »
See if you can find a link.  Here's one to the Vanity Fair article I read http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/somali-pirates200904?currentPage=1

I can't find a link to the article.  They don't seem to have an archive section on their website.  I have all the back issues so I have it somewhere.  I will run across it when I organize them.  What basically happened is two sailboats on passage from the Indian Ocean to the Med were were chased by pirates in the Gulf of Aden on their way to the Red Sea.  They happened to be armed about as well as the pirates and a running gun battle took place.  The American was the better shot and he hit one gunman (killed?) and also must have hit the outboard motor as the pirates broke off pursuit with smoke coming from the engine.  He was also retired police/military so he was well trained in firearms and able to keep his cool under fire. The American boats did not suffer any casualties but did have their boats a little shot up.  It seems that these pirates are small time operators compared to the ones attacking commercial shipping and mostly prey on local/coastal vessels and targets of opportunity.
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Re: More CNN Breaking News
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2010, 07:41:30 AM »
the only way to stop a pirate is to sink thier boat
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« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2010, 07:44:36 AM »
if they fire on you, you have the right tp protect yourself
your ship is the property of the flag you fly
if you get boarded you have the right to start shooting
i say use the old q ships
let them get close then sink them
after about 4 or 5 times they will back off
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« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2010, 10:29:31 AM »
if they fire on you, you have the right tp protect yourself
your ship is the property of the flag you fly
if you get boarded you have the right to start shooting
i say use the old q ships
let them get close then sink them
after about 4 or 5 times they will back off

I don't question the right of self protection but it is not always the best decision.  I have been involved in the sailing community for 30 years and keep up with much of the news as these folks travel the world.  This has been a contentious issue within the community for many years.  Much of the piracy affecting this group is different than the more organized commercial piracy.  Robbery seems to be the primary motive and for every person who fights off an attack there is another more ominous story of being outgunned or brandishing a gun escalating the situation.  A well known sailing couple was approached in the Sula Sea and the wife went below, grabbed a shotgun and appeared on deck.  She was shot dead instantly.  The pirates boarded and took money and electronic equipment and left the husband and young child unharmed.  A bit of money and electronic equipment is hardly worth fighting over.  Another story of a well known sailor being approached in the Straights of Malacca by an unknown vessel.  He had a gun and agonized over firing a warning shot.  In the end he held off and it turned out to be local fishermen asking for water and wanting to trade fish for cigs.  Another humorous story involves another sailor in the Red Sea about 20 years ago who is intercepted by the ragtag "Ethiopian" Navy.   He was armed with an AK-47 but was clearly outgunned so he followed them into a small port.  It's evening so he is allowed to stay on his boat at anchor and will probably have his boat robbed in the morning.  Noticing they did not have radar on the small patrol boats he quietly ups anchor in the dead of night.  They hear him fire up his engine but using his radar he avoids the sweeping patrol boats and escapes.  Just a few weeks later his boat has a rigging failure and the mast breaks about half way down and is banging the side of the boat.  He uses the AK-47 to saw off the hanging portion of the mast at the break to stop it from punching a hole in the hull. ;D  For this type of piracy there just is no right answer for every situation and it just has to be a judgment call by those on the scene.

This attack on the Navy ship was at night so they were not aware of the indentity.  At first you think they are nuts to attack a Navy ship.  but again this area is so vast and the number of ships so large that laying some type of trap is probably impractical.  It's just a matter of luck, location,  quick communication and fast response.
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Re: More CNN Breaking News
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2010, 05:28:15 PM »
Saw a news article that a South Korean tanker was just seized in the Indian Ocean.
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