Topic: Ignition replacement without a new key

[xfactor]

So I figured out the reason my bike wasnt starting when I opened up the ignition and some broken pieces fell out. I have a key that matches the seat lock and for that reason I really dont want to get a brand new ignition system. Is there anyway I can get a new ignition cylinder with the all the parts and still use my same key?


Links are greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Croix

[xfactor]

is it possible to just get it rebuilt?

[MoTo-BunnY]

They have a Honda OEM kit with brand new ignition lock, fork lock, and seat lock with two keys (that work for all three obviously) and it's only like $100 or so (from Honda Direct Line) . I replaced all of mine in a few hours one afternoon, no problem. I really need to do a write up on it, as I took pictures and everything.

You can find the part # on the fiche where it shows the "exploded" ignition lock. There will be a line drawn around the whole assembly and the part # given as "main switch kit" or something similar - update: SWITCH KIT, MAIN - PART # 35010-374-671

SWITCH KIT, MAIN - PART # 35010-374-671 ($91.83)  (at Honda Direct Line)

Nothing better than a new OEM lock set with shiny new keys (especially since my original ignition lock was sporadically seizing up, leaving me stranded!) I wouldn't fool around with the 30+ year old well worn out original (at least in my case, it was obvious that it was SOOOoooo worn out)

[img width= height=]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4483081818_7411ae235d_o.jpg[/img]

There are also cheapie ignition locks on feeBay for like $15 but then your key would be different (and Honda OEM has got to be way better, too)


Here's another pict from a feeBay auction:

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Honda CB750 750 Ignition Switch 125 200 250 350 450 500 ($109.99)

[KeithB]

I'm not sure what bike you have but on my '78 CB 750, the "switch" part was replaceable independent of the "lock" part.
About $35.

[sbparks]

Mr. Moto-Bunny,

 I just ordered the 'Main Switch Kit' for my bike rebuild project (CB750K4).  So, I'll be replacing all of the parts.

 What did it take to replace the fork lock?  Mine (original) was seized and mucked-up.  I ended up drilling it out / pounding it out (wow - was tough!).

 I am worried that my new fork lock isn't gonna just 'slide in' for me.

Thanks, Scott

[MoTo-BunnY]

Mr. Moto-Bunny,

 I just ordered the 'Main Switch Kit' for my bike rebuild project (CB750K4).  So, I'll be replacing all of the parts.

 What did it take to replace the fork lock?  Mine (original) was seized and mucked-up.  I ended up drilling it out / pounding it out (wow - was tough!).

 I am worried that my new fork lock isn't gonna just 'slide in' for me.

Thanks, Scott

That's Ms. Moto-Bunny, thank ya (that's my picture to the left    

You'll really like having all new OEM Honda locks-they are sooo much easier to use as they aren't all worn out and gummed up from 30+ years of use. My ignition lock was sometimes seizing up at random times and no amount of cleaning or lubrication was helping it.

My old fork lock came out fine and the new one went in easily, especially with a bit of teflon grease. Yours might be complicated from any damage. I took a lot of pictures, to do a write up on the lock replacement, so if you need any pictures of how the lock goes in or something, let me know. My seat lock was a bit much to take off from the screws being kind of rusted in, but it eventually came out. When I put my new ignition on, I added a couple of blade type fuses (in waterproof housings) for the lights up front. They help with isolating and troubleshooting any electrical problem gremlins.  

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[bucky katt]

my seat lock is getting pretty worn out. i really have to jiggle the key in the lock as i'm trying (gently) to turn it. i really need to get new keys made before the old (original honda key) snaps off. are new honda keys available? the seat lock and ignition match but the fork lock doesnt. is it possible that there is some kind of code on the fork lock that i can give to honda or someone else to get a key for the lock?

[andy750]

Ill agree with Ms Bunny that the stock Honda ignition set is far superior than the cheap EMGO sets. Ive been using the EMGO sets for years since Im so cheap but ended up stranded more than a few times due to crappy ignition failing. I would buy 2 sets just to have a spare! Well thats all over with now..I got the same set as MotoBunny for the K2 and Ill be installing this weekend.

More expensive but worth it!

[sbparks]

Ms. Bunny...

 Sorry for the slip!   

 I only meant to convey respect, not gender!
 
 Have a wonderful Easter weekend and enjoy the weather!  Our first taste of warmth here in upstate NY (Binghamton)!

Scott

[xfactor]

Thanks bunny that is a HUGE help. But do they have that same OEM kit for a 750f? I might just buy a 10 dollar cheap one for the time being so I can ride, while I save up the money for the OEM one. Being unemployed sucks, especially when its 80 degrees outside and I cant ride my bike.


Croix

[MoTo-BunnY]

Thanks bunny that is a HUGE help. But do they have that same OEM kit for a 750f? I might just buy a 10 dollar cheap one for the time being so I can ride, while I save up the money for the OEM one. Being unemployed sucks, especially when its 80 degrees outside and I cant ride my bike.


Croix

This same kit number should cover a wide variety of CBs-dunno about the 750F though, I just checked that parts fiche and it has a different setup. (check the appropriate parts diagrams for your ride, to be sure)

Here is the parts fiche from a '73 CB750K and it uses the same ignition kit as my CB500 does:

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Note the "11" on the diagram, that indicates the full switch/lock kit. (the "11" that points to the line AROUND the ignition lock, fork lock, seat lock)
SWITCH KIT, MAIN - PART # 35010-374-671

[MoTo-BunnY]

Ms. Bunny...

 Sorry for the slip!   

 I only meant to convey respect, not gender!
 
 Have a wonderful Easter weekend and enjoy the weather!  Our first taste of warmth here in upstate NY (Binghamton)!

Scott

lol. . .no worries       On the verge of Spring here in Orygun-can't wait! (except I have to finish up my new rear rim/tire setup fast!)

[MoTo-BunnY]

Here is my custom ignition setup in situ:

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I put the plastic "armor" over all my wiring, on the whole bike-helps prevent shorts to ground from wear or just old wiring. To the left, is my Stebel Nautilus horn. The ignition sits in an aluminum heat shield I made from an old cup. It should really help the ignition switch last long because otherwise, it gets kind of baked while sitting in traffic, etc. being so close to the engine. The aforementioned fuses and holders are above the ignition (they tuck up into the gas tank) The flip up cover over the switch is pretty cool. Later model CBs move the ignition switch up to the handlebars and have the cover, since they are horizontal. I scavenged one of those covers and used it on mine. It helps keep moisture and junk out, when it's just sitting I suppose.