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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal help
« Reply #375 on: March 11, 2013, 05:32:44 PM »
Switching over to older style spigots for my older style exhaust...although I only know from the interweb....God I hope I am correct (pretty sure I am with the help of all these amazing members)...but if I'm wrong?!!?!!?!?!! I will lose my mind :o
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal help
« Reply #376 on: March 13, 2013, 06:36:46 PM »
I have a 78 as well and had to go through everything you are going through BEFORE I found this fourm but in the end it is worth it. wihhout knowing I have made my bike look alot like yours. why did you take your drag bars off? I put alloy 1 inch risers on mine. like your bike. bill
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal help
« Reply #377 on: March 13, 2013, 09:19:14 PM »
Don't forget to run a thread chaser into the holes to clean them up.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal help
« Reply #378 on: March 14, 2013, 11:47:48 AM »
What the heck is thread chaser?

Yes, I'm still stud removing (hope to this weekend) Still unpacking and searching for a (1998-2001) Honda CR-V for around 4-5 grand...

So anyways...I need to order GRADE 5 nuts to finish double-nutting these studs (see below) what do I order? They are 8mm but what thread? I will just take them to the crappy hardware store close to me to find out (I bought what they had and they just strip)  if I have to, but you guys always know everything.

Figured I'd order from these guys and maybe they'd arrive on the weekend so I can skin the rest of my knuckles: http://www.fastenal.com/web/home.ex



Thank you as always...Its so close I can taste it :)

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BPellerine— the drag bars were cheap and rusty, I too had bar risers on them (they are for sale, the risers. I should post them) I just like the Renthals way better looks-wise and confort-wise...I will find a link to your bike, I'd love to see it. Also, thanks :)
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #379 on: March 14, 2013, 11:57:32 AM »
Standard M8 has pitch 1.25mm.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #380 on: March 14, 2013, 12:08:31 PM »
By thread chaser I believe he would mean a tap. You can run a tap in and out of the stud holes just to get all the corrosion out and any galling that may have occurred since they threads were seized in there pretty hard.

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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #381 on: March 14, 2013, 12:13:59 PM »
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #382 on: March 14, 2013, 12:19:23 PM »
By thread chaser I believe he would mean a tap. You can run a tap in and out of the stud holes just to get all the corrosion out and any galling that may have occurred since they threads were seized in there pretty hard.

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Yeah, they are similar to a tap but are intended to clean out the threads vs cutting new threads in a new hole. Can't really tell you what the degree of difference is though.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #383 on: March 14, 2013, 12:52:43 PM »
Yeah, they are similar to a tap but are intended to clean out the threads vs cutting new threads in a new hole. Can't really tell you what the degree of difference is though.
A chaser is less aggressive, so you're less likely to really mess things up if you pick the wrong one or kind of cross-thread it.

There's nothing wrong with using a tap if you're careful with it.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #384 on: March 14, 2013, 01:10:04 PM »
Taps cut threads, chasers only straighten, and clean.  Usually you can only find them at places that sell to machine shops.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #385 on: March 14, 2013, 01:42:51 PM »
Metric thread chaser:

http://ww.sears.com/craftsman-40-pc-tap-and-die-set-master/p-00952105000P?prdNo=1

Worth every penny. I chase EVERY suspect thread. A drop of your favorite light oil helps nicely.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #386 on: March 14, 2013, 02:01:41 PM »
Well, to get grade 10 metric nuts, I just had to order 50 for 8 dollars...who needs nuts? :p
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #387 on: March 14, 2013, 02:04:16 PM »
Metric thread chaser:

http://ww.sears.com/craftsman-40-pc-tap-and-die-set-master/p-00952105000P?prdNo=1

Worth every penny. I chase EVERY suspect thread. A drop of your favorite light oil helps nicely.

Same kit I have and I too chased all used threads on my restore. A good kit is hard to find. This is a good kit.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #388 on: March 14, 2013, 02:09:10 PM »
Since tool links are happening, I can't find these "left handed drill bits" anywhere...need to get that broken bolt out!
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #389 on: March 14, 2013, 02:16:02 PM »
flanged nuts or regular?
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #390 on: March 14, 2013, 02:27:29 PM »
Ended up with regular. Couldn't get the high grade stuff with a flange
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #391 on: March 14, 2013, 02:43:13 PM »
Since tool links are happening, I can't find these "left handed drill bits" anywhere...need to get that broken bolt out!


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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #392 on: March 14, 2013, 02:54:07 PM »
You know, left handed bits are good 'in theory' but if that stud was that stuck do we think a left handed bit will turn the stud out? I have my doubts. Yes, it will drill the stud but so will a right hand bit. I'm thinking drill right handed then easy out it.
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #393 on: March 14, 2013, 02:56:18 PM »
Since tool links are happening, I can't find these "left handed drill bits" anywhere...need to get that broken bolt out!


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=left+hand+drill+bit




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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #394 on: March 14, 2013, 03:07:11 PM »
Since tool links are happening, I can't find these "left handed drill bits" anywhere...need to get that broken bolt out!


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=left+hand+drill+bit




 ;)

I accept your burn


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F2/F3 O-rings: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113672.msg1300721#msg1300721
Cam Tower Studs: https://www.mcmaster.com/#93210a017/=t19sgp
Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,148188.msg1688494.html#msg1688494
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
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Follow up on your damn posts: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,144305.msg1791605.html#msg1791605
Taiwanese Cam Chain Tensioners:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,155043.msg1774841.html#msg1774841
Gumtwo Seat Cover: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,164440.msg1897366.html#msg1897366
Primary Drive: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166063.msg1919278.html#msg1919278
Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #395 on: March 14, 2013, 03:46:04 PM »
Easy outs are not your friend when they snap off. Then you have a real ballgame

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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #396 on: March 14, 2013, 03:48:19 PM »
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #397 on: March 14, 2013, 05:00:22 PM »
I was talking to my friend. Why would I ever want to remove the spigots ever? Why not weld them on?
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #398 on: March 14, 2013, 06:08:43 PM »
Easy outs are not your friend when they snap off. Then you have a real ballgame

That I understand  ;)  In this situation I'd be drilling that hole as large as the threads would allow BEFORE using any easy out but only if necessary. That hole would probably best be drilled big with the left hander and hopefully it would remove those final remnants. My concern mainly centers on a drill bit getting enough grip on something that is so stuck that it broke off in the first place and does not want to turn.

Weld steel to aluminum?? If you didn't get them positioned properly you're hosed. What about the copper 'gasket'. That gives you 3 different metals all with different heat tolerances and a welding unit melting some rod. Is this the same friend you talked with earlier  ;)
« Last Edit: March 14, 2013, 06:13:41 PM by Jerry Rxman Griffin »
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Re: 1978 CB750K - double nut stud removal - the action continues!!!
« Reply #399 on: March 14, 2013, 07:16:30 PM »
I would liken a broken easy out to more of a boxing Knock Out event...  Things get really bad, really quick when that happens.
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