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Offline BurtonWarpup

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Cycle-X Triple Tree
« on: February 07, 2010, 09:45:46 AM »
I was thinking of replacing the stock triple tree on my '74 CB750 with that of Cycle-X, (seen here http://www.cyclexchange.net/Frame%20Page.htm), but I noticed that it has a flat design instead of the step down design of the stock top tree. How would this affect my front end? I think it would lower it a bit, right? Does anyone have any experience with Cycle-X's triple trees? Or any others in that price range?

Also, I was looking here http://www.ttr400.com/catalog_3.html and it says that theirs has 182mm spacing with a 60mm offset. What exactly is that offset measurement referring to?

Thanks all.
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 11:31:36 PM »
The 60mm offset is from the center of the steering stem to the center of the forks. the 182mm is the width of the forks. center to center.

182mm = CB550, CB750 K/F
172mm = CB350F CB400F

60mm offset = CB350F CB400F CB750 K0 K6
50mm offset = CB750F
45mm offset = CB550

Less offset = slower steering, more stable in a straight line.
More offset = quicker steering, less stable in a straight line.

Dropping the forks in the tree= Quicker steering, same as raising the rear ride height.

That's all I got for now.

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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 05:46:03 AM »
One observation on the cyclex piece.  It says the top clamp fits the 750s up to 76 and that the entire assembly would fit any year 750.  This means that their setup has the same offset and fork spacing as the pre 77 750s.  In 77 Honda decreased offset on the 750s while fork spacing never changed.  I am 90% sure that the 77/78ks shared the 77/78F models offset which Kevin list as 50mm
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 05:46:48 PM »
Holy Crap did you look at the prices on the triple trees over at ttr400.com???  The set will cost you $725.  Makes the cycle-x ones seem like a bargain at $268!!!

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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 05:57:16 PM »
Different products and different quality.  I'd recommend e-mailing TTR400 to see about making them to your specification.  You might be able to get more of what you want for less money.

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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 06:26:49 PM »
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 07:12:52 PM »
Another option for the triple tree's..

http://www.jokermachine.com/itemcafe2004.asp?ItemID=715&CategoryID=85&Placeholder=

OH MY GOD! There's no way but $549.95 actually seems reasonable. Those are awesome.

"Built in lower brake hydraulic fluid manifold, that's recessed beneath the lower clamp section with AN-3 fittings, for a really clean brake line set-up that can be used as a single line or double brake line installation. (a plug for the right side for single disc applications is included if desired)"



Edit: Oh hell no! Who are these guys?

Thanks for that link!
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 07:20:51 PM by Iggy »

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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 07:23:18 PM »
The 60mm offset is from the center of the steering stem to the center of the forks. the 182mm is the width of the forks. center to center.

182mm = CB550, CB750 K/F
172mm = CB350F CB400F

60mm offset = CB350F CB400F CB750 K0 K6
50mm offset = CB750F
45mm offset = CB550

Less offset = slower steering, more stable in a straight line.
More offset = quicker steering, less stable in a straight line.

Dropping the forks in the tree= Quicker steering, same as raising the rear ride height.

That's all I got for now.

Kevin
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 10:23:55 PM »
Another option for the triple tree's..

http://www.jokermachine.com/itemcafe2004.asp?ItemID=715&CategoryID=85&Placeholder=

OH MY GOD! There's no way but $549.95 actually seems reasonable. Those are awesome.

"Built in lower brake hydraulic fluid manifold, that's recessed beneath the lower clamp section with AN-3 fittings, for a really clean brake line set-up that can be used as a single line or double brake line installation. (a plug for the right side for single disc applications is included if desired)"



Edit: Oh hell no! Who are these guys?

Thanks for that link!

I just bought their 750/4 fuel cap in black and it arrived today.....very nice.

http://www.jokermachine.com/itemcafe2004.asp?ItemID=659&CategoryID=85&Placeholder=

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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 08:35:02 AM »
Another option for the triple tree's..

http://www.jokermachine.com/itemcafe2004.asp?ItemID=715&CategoryID=85&Placeholder=

OH MY GOD! There's no way but $549.95 actually seems reasonable. Those are awesome.

"Built in lower brake hydraulic fluid manifold, that's recessed beneath the lower clamp section with AN-3 fittings, for a really clean brake line set-up that can be used as a single line or double brake line installation. (a plug for the right side for single disc applications is included if desired)"



Edit: Oh hell no! Who are these guys?

Thanks for that link!


That may be the most impressive triple I've ever seen.  I never heard of Joker Machine.  Wow, thanks for the link guys!  I'll be keeping my eyes on them.
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 08:50:26 AM »
i love all their stuff.  SO high quality and reasonably priced!!  i hope they don't go out of buisness like some of the other cool shops

sorry for a slight thread jack, but will their float level gauge work with my '77 PD carbs?  thanks guys.
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2010, 10:05:40 AM »
no if i remember float height on those is 14.5mm
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Re: Cycle-X Triple Tree
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010, 07:58:00 PM »
my K4 has the CycleEX trees from Ken. they fit well and the bike handles well. i bought the chromed aluminum trees. i would buy them again.
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