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Apple is officially just another evil company...
« on: April 13, 2010, 12:49:44 PM »
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362583,00.asp

I feel sorry for any first-gen iphone people out there.

Three years, wow.

I don't think even Microsoft could pull a maneuver like that.
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Re: Apple is officially just another evil company...
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2010, 12:59:19 PM »
Meh, I agree that apple is an evil soul sucking corperation, but I don't see it here. Not like the phone will suddenly stop working. You just don't get the latest update. Newest os is probably too much for 3 year old tech- not such a bad thing.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 01:04:10 PM »
*says in a voice that mocks a serious person*

Oh it's capitalism they can do what ever they want with their phones and software. It is a good marketing strategy! Blah blah blah.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 01:05:58 PM »
I don't think even Microsoft could pull a maneuver like that.


They did pull something similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PlaysForSure

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Re: Apple is officially just another evil company...
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 02:07:10 PM »
First gen? The good #$%* doesnt even work on the 3G so its like a tease to us. I can understand it doesnt have the power to do stuff like multitasking but my phones is barely a year old and I have another year on my ATT *retard* contract. No ability to upgrade is pretty freaking sad in my book and will most likely push me to a nexus one when my contract is up.

Its interesting how today apple is consistantly pulling the shady #$%* MS was doing in the 90's. Some never learn I guess... Sad thing is that apples hardware is so freaking amazing its hard not to buy their stuff.

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 02:10:27 PM »
see... this is why I try not to buy the first gen of anything because in the first run of any kind of product, the market always does some pretty hard core QA.  I guess the real irony of this is that in theory then the 650 would be the best sohc....

...though a lot of people will say that if it weren't for EPA standards and their lousy carbs, the "futuristic" lack of a kickstarter and their "new" charging system, they would be. ::)
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Re: Apple is officially just another evil company...
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 02:16:20 PM »
Don't know about you guys but I have no problem with Apple not supporting hardware for decades like MS does. This is just a hyper example of their thinking but it does allow them to be fairly nimble by not having to support everything back to a 68040 chip.

Doesn't mean your phones dead. Just that you won't be on track for the latest/greatest. Talk to the G4/G5 hand.

I wouldn't be surprised if anyone with a Nexus gets the same treatment.

Edit: For the record I'm leaning in on a Nexus One on Verizon myself - ssh client w00t!
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2010, 02:42:22 PM »
Three years man!

I could understand after 6 or seven years maybe- but after 3?!?!?



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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 03:12:59 PM »
If what they're saying about old hardware not being fast enough to cope with new features, then they're given two choices:

1. Leave out new features so as not to alienate old hardware owners

2. Don't support old hardware

As a company that is so defined by being meticulous about its user experience, I don't know why their choice is a surprise at all.

I have a 1st gen iPod touch, and I'm by no means outraged. I just upgraded to 3.0 last week, and that was because of a single app I wanted to download. Almost everything else worked great.

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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 03:21:06 PM »
everytime i want to really hate apple they actually give me good customer service.
while ive never bought into the BS that they were for the people unlike the axis of evil microsoft.....

1) we got a new iMac (wifes call) it deleted all my itunes, about $500 bucks worth of purchased music. totally my fault for not backing it up. But when i emailed, thats right i didnt have to spend 12 hours on hold to some small village in india, tell them that i was simply being brand loyal they allowed me to redownload it all for free. they were in their rights to tell me to piss off.
2) i got an itunes album that was supposed to be 80s hits or something. NONE of the songs were by the real artist, when i emailed them they refunded the money no questions asked.

again this is what a good company should do, but most dont...

so im torn.......but dont buy the hype that Apple is a bunch of fun loving geeks making products for us out of the goodness of their hearts

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 04:12:20 PM »
won't buy anything apple
because how they treated me on my ipod
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 05:57:47 PM »
Yeah, don't try to change your batteries on your own!!!
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2010, 06:57:14 AM »
Here is my take on the technology...

Apple signed a contract with the devil. The devil's name was AT&T. They have somewhat of a saturated 3G (3rd Generation) network in the larger metropolitan areas, but almost invisible anywhere else. And even in big cities like New York, LA, and Chicago AT&T had one of the worst customer satisfaction records possible. This is problem one.

But all who looked at this contract was sure that AT&T provided a fantastic legal kickback to be able to sell exclusively the most advanced phone in existence.

Now AT&T uses a technology called GSM (Global System for Mobile) for their 3G network. This is a fairly universal technology that is used around the world. So you can make calls just about anywhere, but you will only be able to use the broadband access required for any apps where a true 3G network exists with the available bandwidth. This returns the issue the the first problem noted.

Now the other cell providers have founded their networks on another technology called CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) for their 3G networks and found that the technology can provide a higher bandwidth without much more monetary investment in existing networks. Just some tweaking and firmware downloads and if the internal network can handle the higher bandwidth, then they were good to go.

So around a year ago, Apple started a new division. A division focused on designing, engineering, and producing their own integrated circuits. They hired a lot of engineers from the microprocessor industries specializing in ARM based processing and the other area of focus was cell phone SoC (System on a Chip) integration and Software Radio design.

So the newest generation of iPhone software OS4 is actually specific for Software Radio technology using both GSM and CDMA frameworks. And if they come out with a new CDMA or dual framework phone this September as speculated, the new OS4 will be compatible.

And hopefully the new phone will be licensed and approved for multiple carriers.

My two cents....

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Re: Apple is officially just another evil company...
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2010, 07:48:14 AM »
Or a person could just get a droid. I hear those have been pretty damn good phones.

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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2010, 07:50:21 AM »
Or a fella could just shun technology and go live in the woods.

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 07:54:13 AM »
Here is the problem with the Droid. It is a software that is placed in a couple platforms such as HTC or Motorola. And the software has some issues with respect to viruses.

But if you want a network phone with some apps and you think that the iPhone doesn't fit your needs. Then a Droid based phone is probably the next best choice since RIM/Blackberry is running into trouble.

I personally have a Blackberry Storm. And the main reason I got the Blackberry is because I can sync it with my contact list on my Mac.

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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2010, 07:58:18 AM »
I will never have to worry about it. I have a basic flip phone and that is it. If I didnt somewhat need it, I would not even have that. Hell I lived for 3 years with NO phone and it was AWESOME!
I don't shun tech but I don't think people really need all of this stuff. Just seems the more tech interaction people have , the less social interaction they have.

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2010, 08:01:08 AM »
.. since RIM/Blackberry is running into trouble.

Scott

My wife and I are considering Blackberries. What are the problems/issues you are referring to?
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2010, 08:15:53 AM »
I will never have to worry about it. I have a basic flip phone and that is it. If I didnt somewhat need it, I would not even have that. Hell I lived for 3 years with NO phone and it was AWESOME!
I don't shun tech but I don't think people really need all of this stuff. Just seems the more tech interaction people have , the less social interaction they have.

Same here, no internet access on my phone. People look at me a little weird when I tell them they are better off calling my home phone and leave a message if I don't answer. I haven't turned on/checked my cell phone since I called my mother a few days ago- to me a cell phone is more an emergency thing when I'm out on the road.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2010, 08:26:23 AM »
I will never have to worry about it. I have a basic flip phone and that is it. If I didnt somewhat need it, I would not even have that. Hell I lived for 3 years with NO phone and it was AWESOME!
I don't shun tech but I don't think people really need all of this stuff. Just seems the more tech interaction people have , the less social interaction they have.

But I have hundreds of friends on Facebook. ???

Here is the problem with the Droid. It is a software that is placed in a couple platforms such as HTC or Motorola. And the software has some issues with respect to viruses.

But if you want a network phone with some apps and you think that the iPhone doesn't fit your needs. Then a Droid based phone is probably the next best choice since RIM/Blackberry is running into trouble.

I personally have a Blackberry Storm. And the main reason I got the Blackberry is because I can sync it with my contact list on my Mac.

Scott

Have you found the camera on your Storm to be incredibly slow? My mother-in-law has a Storm and the camera takes like 3-4 seconds to actually take a picture. And the click-screen is gimmicky.

.. since RIM/Blackberry is running into trouble.

Scott

My wife and I are considering Blackberries. What are the problems/issues you are referring to?

RIM is quickly losing marketshare, among other things.

If you do get one, ditch the standard BlackBerry browser and download Opera. The difference is incredible.

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2010, 10:13:07 AM »
Landline at the house......tracphone for when I am on the road in case of emergency only.....not a "talker" anyway.

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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2010, 02:46:49 AM »
I'm trying hard to care here but I just don't. Prior to the iPhone, phones didn't even get updates to the software!

Okay, not entirely true, but you didn't see anybody releasing major upgrades to smartphones. I ran quite a few hacked roms on my Windows Mobile phones but nothing supported by the manufacturer (HTC) or Microsoft. Apple set the standard for user-upgradable phone OSs... And now people are whining. The first gen Iphone is a slug anyway.

Moto-Droid and loving it now. If I'm still using this phone in three years I'll have bigger issues than getting the latest updates. Like where I'm going to park my flying car.