Topic: Lightning Alternator

[Retro Rocket]

I prefer to lighten the crank and run a balanced, late model rotor.

Mike,could you please elaborate? Later 750 of different rotor?

Mick

[Retro Rocket]

I wanna run a ridiculously bright headlight.

Look at HID conversion then because the Honda charging system already runs at about its limit, more powerful headlight may give you charging issues.

Mick

[scottly]

I prefer to lighten the crank and run a balanced, late model rotor.

Mike,could you please elaborate? Later 750 of different rotor?

Mick

Mick, I found a K7 rotor was several lbs lighter than my K1 rotor. Sorry, I can't give accurate numbers, but it was definitely lighter. Also, I was reluctant to turn either rotor, as I had no way to balance, so I ran the K7. Don't know when Honda went to the lighter rotors, but I can verify that K7 was lighter than K1....
Scott 

[754]

They dropped the flange off, in 73.
 I think Mike means take the weight off the crank, rather than the rotor....not an option if we are not splitting cases.

 I have run with no rotor at times, on my 836 we welded the oil hole in the crank..

[Retro Rocket]

They dropped the flange off, in 73.
 I think Mike means take the weight off the crank, rather than the rotor....not an option if we are not splitting cases.

 I have run with no rotor at times, on my 836 we welded the oil hole in the crank..

I have a lightened RC crank already, i was just after a lighter rotor that would charge the same or maybe better than the stock alternator as i want to run fuel injection. I will run LED winkers and tail light and HID headlight and i would also like to retain the electric start if possible.

Mick

[seaweb11]

Will the cycleX one not work for you then?

[sangyo soichiro]

Mick, I found a K7 rotor was several lbs lighter than my K1 rotor. Sorry, I can't give accurate numbers, but it was definitely lighter.

I have a couple in my basement, with and without the flange.  I also have a really accurate scale.  I'll try to remember to weigh them and post the results.

[MattFreeman]

Thanks for the good feedback, guys.

[Retro Rocket]

Will the cycleX one not work for you then?

Are they not "kick only"? I will have to go to their site and have a look..

Mick

[seaweb11]

No! I had to remove my kick on the Tracy due to the rear sets. I'm only electric start now only.

 I went one bulb size down from stock on the headlight and it works like a charm now.
Give him a call if you have any questions. Oh yeah, Overseas...whatever.

[sangyo soichiro]

Mick, I found a K7 rotor was several lbs lighter than my K1 rotor. Sorry, I can't give accurate numbers, but it was definitely lighter.

I have a couple in my basement, with and without the flange.  I also have a really accurate scale.  I'll try to remember to weigh them and post the results.

So here's what I got:
Both are stock and not modified in any way.  I left in the little springs and weights and the retainer for these for each.
K2: 7.0765 lb  This one has the flange.
K4: 5.8430 lb  This one is without the flange.

A difference of about 1.234 lb (that should be an easy number to remember  .

[seaweb11]

Ignore my earlier post. Fricken dead battery in Vancouver Yesterday!!! 

[Ayrity]

what if you replaced a bunch of the bulbs with leds? there are easy cheap kits online with circuit boards included. less power, longer lasting lights!

[754]

So cant you jumper/push it to start.?.

Mine starts on 6 volts or less..

[seaweb11]

No Kick. Had to remove due to rear sets

Charged it overnight.
Slept on a friends couch, got home this afternoon.


You can't leave your bike running for 2 hours on a ferry It would have died anyway.

[754]

I know it has no kick. They do push start scarily easy

[MattFreeman]

what if you replaced a bunch of the bulbs with leds? there are easy cheap kits online with circuit boards included. less power, longer lasting lights!

Lazy link?

[wannabridin]

hey Mreick or anyone else who knows...

can you "slightly" lighten a crankshaft?  i'm going to have it balanced, but is it possible to take off a little bit to help with the revs and everything?  then you still get some of the "stored" momentum of a heavier crank, but some of the pep of the lightened one...  this coupled with the lightened alternator would give you a streetable ride that would rev quicker, right??

[754]

You can cut off varying amounts.

 If yours is 73 & later it is lighter than a 72. If you lighten it too still use e-start it is  not fully lightened.

 Your riding style has a big influence on how much you should be cutting off. How much/often, do you take it to or past stock redline?

[Laminar]

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[wannabridin]

haha, i thought the same thing when i first read the lightning part laminar!!

754, i like to ride to the limits of the motor without doing any damage.  so i'd say i do a decent amount of powershifts when i'm really hammering it!  other than that, i ride up to about 8k rpm or so.  what are your recommendations?

[754]

If you like revving, you will probably like it, moreso if you spend a lot of time over 5K

 If you like taking a 2 week trip, with a vetter, 2up, & lots of gear..you probably wont like it.

 If you are likely to gtab a handleful of R's, and are not afraid to dump/sliiiipppp  the clutch, its probably for you.

 If racing off the line and you bog, you can get revs back quicker.

 I would not run my 836 without one.

 I have also NO rotor, that is a bit different animal.

[MattFreeman]

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Sure make fun of the dum guye.

[seaweb11]

Thought I would call Cycle X today and actually ask what the output is on their lightend alt.
No one answered the phone. Suppose I will try later.

[wannabridin]

If you like revving, you will probably like it, moreso if you spend a lot of time over 5K

 If you like taking a 2 week trip, with a vetter, 2up, & lots of gear..you probably wont like it.

 If you are likely to gtab a handleful of R's, and are not afraid to dump/sliiiipppp  the clutch, its probably for you.

 If racing off the line and you bog, you can get revs back quicker.

 I would not run my 836 without one.

 I have also NO rotor, that is a bit different animal.

i do like to stay in the powerband with the bike, as i like to ride as aggressively as i can!

it's a one up only, i'm selfish and don't care if a girl want's a ride.  my dad's vtx1300R is the bike i use for long hauls.  and i'm working on a family friend to sell me his old gl1100...  THAT would be good for a trip or two!   

i'll still need my rotor, so i'm sure it'll still be tame enough!  i guess i'll go with take a little off but balance it and the rotor.  help rev's but still keep it somewhat "friendly"