Topic: Tire/Wheel Balancing - Dealer says it is not needed

[mystic_1]

I'm shocked that dealer wasn't interested in taking your money whether or not your wheels actually needed balancing.  Usually it's the other way around

mystic_1

[Hannibal Smith]

I'm shocked that dealer wasn't interested in taking your money whether or not your wheels actually needed balancing.  Usually it's the other way around

mystic_1

These Dealerships don't want to go anywhere near these old bikes. The wrenches are kids, if I owned a Dealership, I wouldn't let them touch anything from the 70's or 80's either.............go to a Dealership nowadays, you might be shocked.

[mystic_1]

No.

Then I'd feel old.



mystic_1

[MickeyX]

yeah, true. We can't go to our dealership for anything except to pick up parts we ordered through the fiche system. They have no one there who could work on these older bikes. They actually refuse to. They have ads for other bike guys in the area to send you to.

[spitcrazy]

We have them in tubed and tubeless setups and they work fine. If you take them to someone to do, you may as well just get them to balance them for you. If you do it yourself and don't have a balancer, the beads work great. 

+1 Just did my front, tubed, changed tire myself, screwed up and forgot to put the dot at the valve stem, about 1/5 away. acid test for these beads, so far smooth ride.

[Nikkisixx]

We have them in tubed and tubeless setups and they work fine. If you take them to someone to do, you may as well just get them to balance them for you. If you do it yourself and don't have a balancer, the beads work great. 

+1 Just did my front, tubed, changed tire myself, screwed up and forgot to put the dot at the valve stem, about 1/5 away. acid test for these beads, so far smooth ride.

oh boy...

[Retro Rocket]

I won't go into this all over again but on their own site {dyna beads} there is a PDF file on the things that says not to use on hard cornering or racing {can't remember what else off hand} but thats enough for me to steer clear, if they can't guarantee these things in all circumstances then i would steer clear. May be ok for putting around but i still ride hard and good old fashioned balancing has never let me down.

Mick

[spitcrazy]

We have them in tubed and tubeless setups and they work fine. If you take them to someone to do, you may as well just get them to balance them for you. If you do it yourself and don't have a balancer, the beads work great.  

+1 Just did my front, tubed, changed tire myself, screwed up and forgot to put the dot at the valve stem, about 1/5 away. acid test for these beads, so far smooth ride.

oh boy...

70 mph fingertips on bars not a hint of wobble. I am a putter and rarely exceed 55 mph. As for hard cornering and racing, I would never put an old machine like this through a racing situation on my budget and as far as  ;)hard cornering.... I don't believe I know what that is. If you ride around like the sixteen year olds around here do, then I suggest you absolutlely not use them. As for misplacing the valve mark, a dynamic rebalancing would remedy it. They never used to even mark tires years ago, just would balance them. I am trying these bead things out and all is excellent. If any thing makes me feel as if there is a problem at 55 mph, I will remove them and balance conventionally.

[mlinder]

lol.
Just lol.

[spitcrazy]

I won't go into this all over again but on their own site {dyna beads} there is a PDF file on the things that says not to use on hard cornering or racing {can't remember what else off hand} but thats enough for me to steer clear, if they can't guarantee these things in all circumstances then i would steer clear. May be ok for putting around but i still ride hard and good old fashioned balancing has never let me down.

Mick

As I removed the conventional weight, it occurred to me that the "squash" fit weight on the spoke is no guarantee that it will remain there. Please do a regular check of them to make sure they remain secure. As for stick on weights, glue fails too, it has on my car. If either were to happen at speed the grenade scenario would also apply.

[spitcrazy]

lol.
Just lol.

good for you, bud

[mlinder]

I was lol'ing at the dealer.
But I lol at dynabeads too. I know when they work and why they do when they do (we've done the math (and I'll never use them because of that math and the way I ride)) but that isn't why I'm lol'ing. Again, lol'ing at the dealer and the 'pre balanced' comment.

Good for you too, bud, glad those beads are working for you.

[Nikkisixx]

I was lol'ing at the dealer.
But I lol at dynabeads too. I know when they work and why they do when they do (we've done the math (and I'll never use them because of that math and the way I ride)) but that isn't why I'm lol'ing. Again, lol'ing at the dealer and the 'pre balanced' comment.

Good for you too, bud, glad those beads are working for you.

Yup. Spitcrazy, the product isn't a literal grenade - the topic is.  Some call it a dead horse, I call it a conversational grenade mm hmm (insert slingblade voice).  I wasted the better part of one morning reading this:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=52136.0

[333]

But let's get one thing straight.  The dealer is right about one thing, and that is that the tire itself IS balanced.  And if you step up and get the expensive tubes(Metzeler or Continental), they are balanced as well.  His mistake is in thinking that any wheel is balanced.  And it's a mistake that will help him out of business.

[spitcrazy]

But let's get one thing straight.  The dealer is right about one thing, and that is that the tire itself IS balanced.  And if you step up and get the expensive tubes(Metzeler or Continental), they are balanced as well.  His mistake is in thinking that any wheel is balanced.  And it's a mistake that will help him out of business.

Fo' Sho', he is incompetent and just plain stupid to think that the entire assembly will be balanced just because the tire is before it leaves the factory. Let's hope he isn't in business for much longer.

[mlinder]

But let's get one thing straight.  The dealer is right about one thing, and that is that the tire itself IS balanced.  And if you step up and get the expensive tubes(Metzeler or Continental), they are balanced as well.  His mistake is in thinking that any wheel is balanced.  And it's a mistake that will help him out of business.

Er, I think "very close to balanced" would be closer to correct.

[spitcrazy]

But let's get one thing straight.  The dealer is right about one thing, and that is that the tire itself IS balanced.  And if you step up and get the expensive tubes(Metzeler or Continental), they are balanced as well.  His mistake is in thinking that any wheel is balanced.  And it's a mistake that will help him out of business.

Er, I think "very close to balanced" would be closer to correct.

Hence the dot where the valve is to be positioned. i looked at my cousing's brand new car the other day and the valves were not lined up at the dots from the factory... It is a Toyota. LOL