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Offline Raef

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #575 on: February 22, 2011, 08:09:23 pm »
That all depends on when, where and how far you twist the throttle ;D

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #576 on: February 22, 2011, 08:14:28 pm »
That all depends on when, where and how far you twist the throttle ;D

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Given its only marginally legal at idle, that means I would be doing a lot of pushing, not riding. :D :D :D
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #577 on: February 22, 2011, 08:27:31 pm »
That all depends on when, where and how far you twist the throttle ;D

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Given its only marginally legal at idle, that means I would be doing a lot of pushing, not riding. :D :D :D

Luckily in Texas we get to be as loud as we want too.

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #578 on: February 22, 2011, 08:35:22 pm »
They just passed a new motorcycle sound level bylaw in this area.  The cops will be out in force this summer testing their new toy. ::)
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #579 on: February 23, 2011, 03:50:15 am »
They just passed a new motorcycle sound level bylaw in this area.  The cops will be out in force this summer testing their new toy. ::)
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #580 on: February 23, 2011, 05:33:45 am »
I'd do that, except the police station is about a block away.  Don't think the fun would last very long. :(
No you are correct about that. We have no laws here, not that people don't want them however being this is where HD's are built I don't believe a law like that would get passed here any time soon. Well toss up another vid, once they are in. I for one would like to hear the difference. I love those exhaust pipes, I would get those next fall when I start buying parts again however I don't have the ability/tools to make em fit so nice..

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #581 on: February 23, 2011, 06:07:06 am »
Awesome sounding!!!!
I agree, it sounds awesome watching it on a vid on YouTube, but I don't think I'd dig it too much blarting past my dining room window. ;)
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« Reply #582 on: February 23, 2011, 06:51:58 pm »
Awesome sounding!!!!
I agree, it sounds awesome watching it on a vid on YouTube, but I don't think I'd dig it too much blarting past my dining room window. ;)

Where exactly do you live? ;) :)
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #583 on: February 23, 2011, 07:55:27 pm »
Where exactly do you live? ;) :)
Ha ha, I'll tell you once the baffles are in!!!  ;D
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #584 on: February 23, 2011, 09:07:31 pm »
I just heard about a new license plate enforcement in Massachusetts. The plate cant be vertical, bent or at an angle. It must be visible from 40 feet.

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #585 on: February 24, 2011, 06:53:47 am »
That sounds just mean Brian!! *THUUMBS UP*
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #586 on: February 25, 2011, 12:15:46 pm »
SOUNDS AMAZING!!!!
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #587 on: February 28, 2011, 07:10:35 pm »
Awhile back Mick asked if I was going to do a 750.  The answer was yes, two actually.  A fairly stock K3, and the 550 cafe's big brother.  I plan on starting a build thread for both shortly, but here's the basics.

The K3 with get a 76 GL front end (didn't have one ;)), with Progressive springs, Voxonda pre-load adjusters, and 750 rim.  The disks have already been refinished / drilled.  Now it's pretty much refinish / rebuild / replace  :( the stock parts.  Set of Frankenstuff side covers, and a replacement tank to paint.  Came with a 4-1, not sure if I'll use it, or look for something else.  Also came without a seat or gauges, so those need replacing.  A DIY, I would like to have on the road by summer.

As for the 550's big brother.  It will use the 750 version the Curtis monoshock frame that will also be used in the 550 race bike.  The front end will be CBX600R (09), with a wire wheel if possible.  The engine will be 1000cc, using a JMR billet barrel, and JE pistons.  It will of course get all the other usual upgrades ($$'s ::)) so progress will likely be somewhat slow. ;)  I also haven't decided on induction, but think FI might be worth a serious look.

As for the 550.  It's currently in storage, while I decide what / if anything, to do with the paint.  Have also decided on a baffle design.  Going to use the plate idea from the video Frankenstuff posted.  With some modifications to suit my pipes.  I'm also going to contact a person I met in Pomona about doing something that would slip in.
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #588 on: March 01, 2011, 05:41:19 am »
The K3 with get a 76 GL front end (didn't have one ;)), with Progressive springs, Voxonda pre-load adjusters, and 750 rim.  The disks have already been refinished / drilled.  Now it's pretty much refinish / rebuild / replace  :( the stock parts.
You're not gonna spiff up the fork internals?

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The front end will be CBX600R (09), with a wire wheel if possible.
What's a CBX600R?  Do you mean CBR600RR?  Or CB600?  Or something else?

And a wire wheel is possible - anything's possible, it's all just metal. ;)

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I also haven't decided on induction, but think FI might be worth a serious look.
OK, now I'm getting really excited. :)

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I'm also going to contact a person I met in Pomona about doing something that would slip in.
Hurrrrrr hurrrrr... Sounds like your trip to Pomona was even more adventurous than your report let on. ;)
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #589 on: March 01, 2011, 06:56:00 am »
The K3 with get a 76 GL front end (didn't have one ;)), with Progressive springs, Voxonda pre-load adjusters, and 750 rim.  The disks have already been refinished / drilled.  Now it's pretty much refinish / rebuild / replace  :( the stock parts.
You're not gonna spiff up the fork internals?

Their getting the Progressive springs, and pre-load adjusters.  Not concerned with compression dampening given the GL forks were setup for a heavier bike.

The front end will be CBX600R (09), with a wire wheel if possible.
What's a CBX600R?  Do you mean CBR600RR?  Or CB600?  Or something else? And a wire wheel is possible - anything's possible, it's all just metal. ;)

typo - CBR600.  A wire wheel may not work because of clearance issues between the calpiers and spokes.

I also haven't decided on induction, but think FI might be worth a serious look.
OK, now I'm getting really excited. :)

I looked into FI as an alternative to Webers when I built the 2nd engine for the 7.  Given the bike will get a custom tank, fitting an in tank fuel pump would be easy.  However that decision is quite a ways away yet.

I'm also going to contact a person I met in Pomona about doing something that would slip in.
Hurrrrrr hurrrrr... Sounds like your trip to Pomona was even more adventurous than your report let on. ;)

www.deedsengineering.com  When I spoke with them they were interested in doing some custom baffles for me.
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #590 on: March 01, 2011, 07:14:23 am »
www.deedsengineering.com  When I spoke with them they were interested in doing some custom baffles for me.
That's a lot less funny than talk about doing it and slipping stuff in. :)

Looking forward to seeing your further projects on here, and getting out to see SW in person.  Just got my new Widder electric gloves, really chomping at the bit to get out for a ride...  The more I think about it, the more I think I wanna see about having Denis do my planned frame & suspension mods. Would like to discuss it over a beer sometime.
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #591 on: March 01, 2011, 07:55:53 am »
www.deedsengineering.com  When I spoke with them they were interested in doing some custom baffles for me.
That's a lot less funny than talk about doing it and slipping stuff in. :)

Looking forward to seeing your further projects on here, and getting out to see SW in person.  Just got my new Widder electric gloves, really chomping at the bit to get out for a ride...  The more I think about it, the more I think I wanna see about having Denis do my planned frame & suspension mods. Would like to discuss it over a beer sometime.

Less funny yes, but more helpful.  I'll PM you about meeting up for that beer.
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #592 on: March 02, 2011, 06:26:11 am »
hey what kind of epoxy do you use for the gas cap and the tank?

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #593 on: March 02, 2011, 02:43:54 pm »
hey what kind of epoxy do you use for the gas cap and the tank?

It's an epoxy sealer / adhesive - http://www.caswellcanada.ca/shop/epoxy-gas-tank-sealer.html 
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #594 on: March 02, 2011, 03:25:32 pm »
I was looking ate the tank sealer from Caswell to. Any suggestions on using this product would be appreciated. Bruce
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #595 on: March 03, 2011, 05:33:24 am »
I called the manufacturer to confirm that it was an adhesive that would work for bonding the alloy parts (plate, bung, Monza cap) to the steel tank.  Was assured that it would do this no problem.  Did make sure that all the bonding surfaces on the steel tank were clean down to the raw metal.  Also masked off the tank to prevent any getting on the fresh paint. 

They suggest that you mix up the entire contents, however I only used 1/2.  To get the right ratio I used a clear graduated paint mixing container.  Still had tons left over, which wasn't used!  I don't think you can mix it in much smaller quantities accurately though.  I used a small paint brush to apply it to the areas where needed.  All the pieces were than tpaed down to hold their positions until the epoxy cured.
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #596 on: March 03, 2011, 01:40:08 pm »
Hi all, epoxy's are not an exact science, you can have either a little too much hardener or a little less, less will make it cure slower and more will make it go off faster. I have been working with epoxy for a long time now and i mix roughly by eye, no failures at all.... ;D ;)

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #597 on: March 03, 2011, 03:10:34 pm »
Hi all, epoxy's are not an exact science, you can have either a little too much hardener or a little less, less will make it cure slower and more will make it go off faster. I have been working with epoxy for a long time now and i mix roughly by eye, no failures at all.... ;D ;)

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Agreed Mick, however I needed to be sure I was going to get a normal, or slightly slow cure.  Too many pieces to fit together and align to risk it going off too quickly.

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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #598 on: March 26, 2011, 01:05:14 pm »
Haven't posted to the thread for a while, and had some changes made, and some news.  1st to come back is the seat / cowl.  Had some old school pin stripping added.  I've been thinking about doing this ever since coming back from CA.  Decided to go for it when I saw the pictures of Paulages old tank. ;) :)  I'm also re-doing the fairing with a different graphic.  Pic's of that in a couple of days.  There is a show coming up (2 weeks), that is only 40 minutes away.  So I figured while its still clean I'll show it once more, and change a couple of things.

Rear cowl with its new, old school pin stripping (still needs to be re-polished).  Freshly done today, by John "Mask" Maschke in Guelph.







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1980 CB750F (project)
Whittaker GBF Vintage Racing Sidecar (XS750 power) - ITG / 151's / CMR Racing Products (SOLD)
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1973 CB750 K - basket case (SOLD)
77 CB550 Cafe build
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Re: CB550 Cafe build - 1st bike build, but not 1st build
« Reply #599 on: March 26, 2011, 02:13:17 pm »
Wow, love it.

What show?  I wanna mark my calendar now.  :)
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